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Pakistan blocks NATO supplies

No he should not. Which is why I ask why did he mention it in the first place ?
Perhaps he thought he had the GoP's support on the issue, which he ended up not having.

And no, for all the official rhetoric, you and me both know that drone strikes dont happen with the active knowledge of the Establishment.
The official position is the only factual position available - the rest is just speculation and conspiracy theories.
I have already replied in that thread. Read it.
Which post# is that?

Been a busy morning replying and moderating on the forum, so I might have overlooked it.
 
You can see picture of Gilani and Kiyani meeting face to face, NATO supply lines is still closed except drones attacks!

Yeah, that's really strange that drones have resumed but supply routes are still halted. They are usually tied together. What could be going on.
 
Yeah, that's really strange that drones have resumed but supply routes are still halted. They are usually tied together. What could be going on.

Somehow, the US forces are getting their supplies or else they would not continue their attacks. Most probably secret routes have been opened with the consent of the GOP.
 
Yeah, that's really strange that drones have resumed but supply routes are still halted. They are usually tied together. What could be going on.

It does explain everything............

The CIA asked Islamabad’s permission for a drone strike in North Waziristan but cancelled it when Pakistan declined.

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The CIA asked Islamabad’s permission for a drone strike in North Waziristan but cancelled it when Pakistan declined.

US officials have admitted that after the November 24 border intrusion by Nato forces, a drone strike in the tribal areas was cancelled when Pakistan was asked but refused permission for it, American newspaper The Washington Post has reported.

After the border clash, the officials said, the Obama administration had decided to suspend its regular and hugely unpopular drone campaign inside Pakistan to avoid further unsettling relations. There was a 55-day hiatus.

Then, early this month, in a rare display of deference the Central Intelligence Agency informed the Pakistani government that it planned a drone strike against a terrorist target in the North Waziristan tribal region and asked Islamabad’s permission. When Pakistan declined, the strike was cancelled, officials said.


However, barely a week later when the US wanted to launch another drone strike in North Waziristan, officials said that Pakistan was notified in advance but permission was not sought. Another drone strike followed two days afterward.

Thanks, but no thanks: Pakistan tells Grossman

The paper also reports that Marc Grossman, the Obama administration’s top diplomat in charge of Afghanistan and Pakistan, had asked to visit Islamabad during his current trip to the region, but Pakistani officials responded that it was not convenient.

Grossman is due to visit regional capitals Ankara, Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, Doha and Kabul this week in what is being termed the US’ new push to engage the Taliban.

The move by Pakistani officials seems to imply that, in the aftermath of the November killings of Pakistani soldiers by Nato forces, the country is changing its attitude on US overtures towards the Taliban. But security officials and analysts who spoke to The Washington Post said that there were no significant changes in bilateral counterterrorism cooperation.

The “fundamentals” of mutual interest in destroying al Qaeda and safely managing Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal haven’t changed, said a senior Obama administration official, who, like several sources in this article, discussed sensitive diplomatic matters on condition of anonymity.

But, he said, the two countries are trying to find what he called “a new normal” — somewhere between the strategic alliance that US President Obama once proffered in exchange for Pakistan severing its ties with militants, and a more businesslike arrangement with few illusions.

“It’ll be much more realpolitik,” another US official said. “It’s getting away from the grandiose vision of what could be to focusing on what is.”

Pakistan seeks change


However, a senior Pakistani military official told the paper that the country wants some “significant changes” in the way Pakistan and the US do business. Speaking about past incidents of bilateral intelligence and military cooperation in pursuit of Pakistan-based al Qaeda and Taliban militants, he said, “We’ve had some glorious times.” But he spoke emotionally about the deaths of the 24 soldiers in November and said the incident would not soon be forgotten.

The same, he said, is true of what he called other “insults” in 2011, including the Raymond Davis killings, the May 2 Abbottabad raid and then US chairman of joint chiefs of staff Admiral Mike Mullen’s statement that the Haqqani group was a ‘veritable’ arm of Pakistan’s ISI.


Reviewing cooperation

A Pakistani parliamentary committee, with input from feuding military and civilian political factions, is conducting what Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani on Saturday called “a full review of the terms of cooperation” with America and the US-led international coalition in Afghanistan.

A senior Pakistani government official said the committee’s recommendations will probably include a demand for explicit US assurances that there will be no violation of sovereignty — no American boots on the ground, no more unilateral raids, no manned airstrikes. The official said there is likely to be some arrangement on drone attacks, with Pakistan calling for large reductions in their number and geographic scope, and demanding prior notification and approval of every strike.

Any explicit agreement on drones would be a major change from past practice.

Pakistan also wants more explicit compensation for US and Nato supplies transiting its ports and roads, perhaps in the form of taxes. And it wants more comprehensive information about CIA operations and personnel. “There are over 1,000 houses in Pakistan that have been hired by the US Embassy, and we don’t know who lives in them,” the Pakistani official said.

US peace talks with the Taliban are also a top issue for Pakistan.
 
Pakistan to re-open NATO routes: report

Updated 8 minutes ago



ISLAMABAD: Pakistan expects to re-open supply routes to NATO forces in Afghanistan, halted after a NATO cross-border air attack killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in November, but will impose tariffs, a senior security official told Reuters on Thursday.

The official said the fees were designed to both express continued anger over the Nov. 26 incident, and raise more funds for the state to fight homegrown Taliban militants. No date was given for reopening the supply routes. (Reuters)
 
Pakistan to re-open NATO routes: report

Updated 8 minutes ago



ISLAMABAD: Pakistan expects to re-open supply routes to NATO forces in Afghanistan, halted after a NATO cross-border air attack killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in November, but will impose tariffs, a senior security official told Reuters on Thursday.

The official said the fees were designed to both express continued anger over the Nov. 26 incident, and raise more funds for the state to fight homegrown Taliban militants. No date was given for reopening the supply routes. (Reuters)

Re-open the routes? What happened? What gave.....? :what:
 
As expected

though this time it took a little more time

Present govt=Army generals=same same

though the present army generals has disturbed the army reputation in pak army.
 
I don't think nowadays no body in the world cares what they says.

They are fighting and destroying their own country while blaming others for it. By doing this they make it impossible for them to correct their course and find a solution to their problems.

Baluch-punjabi, sindhi-pathan, shia-sunni, amir-garib, TTP, BLA, LeT, Lashkar e Jhangvi, Liberal-Extremists, Army-Govt. and the list is endless.....

Its too early to verify what arrangement has been made - if it benefits our nation which i am sure is the only reason it should be open. It has been 2 months and i am sure the message must have got through.

Adanan can i ask you if no one cares then why do the likes of you live on PDF?
What benefit is it to anyone to list off thread things?
Its clear for all reading through this thread that you are attempting to troll.
When there is a thread about Dehli children you avoid it like the plague. Then a thread regarding the nato route being opened you are like flies round a dead body. I wouldnt mind but then your obsession is clear for all because then you go off topic in an attempt to troll. You are so predictable - i think you are trying to prove to your fellow Indians how Indian you are. :rolleyes:
 
Oy Ranay, chaad es pagal nu. Khudi balls ke barein baat kar ri hain, upar say tameez ki baat. Lmao. GOP does not reflect the people, so what Indians are coming to antagonize Pakistanis on this thread for is beyond me.
 
So the million dollar question is who is representative of the people of Pakistan. Or is it like Somalia where there is no one actually to act talk to apart from local warlords.

For someone that is obsessed with Pakistanis, it wouldn't hurt you to do a bit of reading.
 
Perhaps the government is trying to take the pressure off Gilani and redirect the people's anger towards this?
 
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