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It's not my responsibility to provide proof. You claim Armata is the best tank first, you should provide proof. But I can list some Russian data here, you can search around if you want to know the well known facts.
Russia APFSDS development history:
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- 3bm42
- 3BM46 Depleted uranium
- 3BM42M monobloc tungsten alloy rod penetrator
The one in the middle is 3BM42. No saddle-shaped sabot. Just take a look, you will know this is 10-20 years behind western one back than.
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This is Russia 3BM66 and 3BM44-1, start using saddle-shaped sabot, 10-20 years behind.
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Russia 3BM66 and 3BM44-1 are trying to catch up with Rheinmetall Rh-120 APFSDS
German 120mm Tank Ammunition
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View attachment 733872Rheinmetall Rh-120 - Wikipedia
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This is Russia 2A46
Chamber pressure 500+MPA
Muzzle energy 9+MPA, far behind Chinese one which is 11+MPA
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This is latest Russia APFSDS, aluminium alloy sabot. While western one and Chinese one is Carbon fiber composites.
The proof is everywhere, I think it's enough.
Basically, Russia APFSDS is 10-20 years behind, this is well known.
Some more Russia ASPFDS development history pictures FYI:
Soviet 3BM-9 APFSDS
Soviet 3BM-15 APFSDS
Soviet 3BM-22 APFSDS
Soviet 3BM-32 APFSDS
Soviet 3BM-42 APFSDS
Soviet 3BM-42 APFSDS
Germany DM-13 APFSDS
Germany DM-13 APFSDS
US M829 APFSDS
US M829A2 APFSDS
British L23A1 APFSDS
APFSDS is no magic, billions of money, new materials, tens of thousands of test, new theory, and the cycle goes on, money, new materials, test, new theory.
Because of Soviet collapsed, Russia lack of investment, while the west and China keep investing, that's how it becomes today.
Armata is not mature at all. I can assure you Russia won't buy it in bulk. It need at least 5-10 years to be mature, most likely 10 years.
Russia electronic lag behind much more than other areas. Have you ever heard of Russia semiconductor chips? No.
Engine, transmission, come on. Germany is best so far.
Germany MT883Ka501
China150HB which is not the best China currently has. The best is in the ZTQ-15 tank.
Russia engine, transmission is at least 10-20 years behind.
Engine, transmission are no magic, billions of money, new materials, tens of thousands of test, new theory, and the cycle goes on, money, new materials, test, new theory.
Russia lack of investment, while the west and China keep investing, that's how it becomes today.
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