Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[ali_raza]

Tungsten

much more expensive isn’t it
and half the strength of DU

 

[vi-va]

much more expensive isn’t it
and half the strength of DU

DU is expensive, you have to refurbish DU regularly.

 

[Armchair]

Pak makes DU inhouse while Tungsten would need to be imported. Not sure how that plays out in the cost calculus.

 

[ali_raza]

DU is expensive, you have to refurbish DU regularly.

i don’t think so.
DU is well depleted useless and available in thousand of tons from power plants

 

[serenity]

i don’t think so.
DU is well depleted useless and available in thousand of tons from power plants

No it is not available in thousands of tons. Power plants can use just some grams everyday.

 

[clibra]

much more expensive isn’t it
and half the strength of DU

But DU is poisonous and radioactive, if you were defending the invasion of enemy on you own land, you never want to use DU ammunition because battlefield may turn to wasteland no matter you win or lose.

 

[PanzerKiel]

But DU is poisonous and radioactive, if you were defending the invasion of enemy on you own land, you never want to use DU ammunition because battlefield may turn to wasteland no matter you win or lose.

Exactly, and that is why they are not issued in peacetime. Only once war is imminent.

 

[vi-va]

i don’t think so.
DU is well depleted useless and available in thousand of tons from power plants

No, after several years, you have to refurbish DU APFSDS

A Comparison of the Advantages and Disadvantages of Depleted Uranium and Tungsten Alloy as Penetrator Material.

https://www.alternatewars.com/WW3/WW3_Documents/Military_Tech/TAS_107/Tank_Ammo_Sec_107_JUN-1980.pdf

 

[ali_raza]

No, after several years, you have to refurbish DU APFSDS

A Comparison of the Advantages and Disadvantages of Depleted Uranium and Tungsten Alloy as Penetrator Material.

https://www.alternatewars.com/WW3/WW3_Documents/Military_Tech/TAS_107/Tank_Ammo_Sec_107_JUN-1980.pdf

sure

Exactly, and that is why they are not issued in peacetime. Only once war is imminent.

exactly it is very very lethal
thats the job of the tool in war time

 

[Armchair]

Interesting. The links indicate vacuum solution treatment and slow quenching as part of the process gained from experience for better strength. @Bilal Khan (Quwa) you may want to check out the links posted, as this may interest you.

 

[truthfollower]

Exactly, and that is why they are not issued in peacetime. Only once war is imminent.

Do we have DU rounds?

 

[Armchair]

Do we have DU rounds?

Pakistan does. India doesn't.

 

[truthfollower]

Pakistan does. India doesn't.

wow nice

 

[HAIDER]

If anyone read the reports about the use of DU rounds during First Gulf war ? ... if not then I summarize the report... these rounds cause more damage to the user then enemy.... brain damage and other physical related issues.

 

[Dazzler]

But then HESH is also not supposed to penetrate. Does the damage by spalling inside.

Would be interesting to see the damage inside.

AKs have Kevlar based spall liner to reduce the effect of impact of such rounds.

Exactly, and that is why they are not issued in peacetime. Only once war is imminent.

DUs have their ups and downs but they can make a mess of incoming armor thrust. Quality penetrators can achieve up to 50% more penetration values in some cases.

Best part is all mbts in our inventory can fire these rounds.

View attachment 629140
Each ERA in the pic is about 80 kg.

Don't look like fy4