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If I am not wrong it's looks like Malir Cantt. Must be preparing for defence day.
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Defence day preparations... Malir Cantt.
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Kis ki himmat hai hamari Parwaaz mein laey kami,
Hum Parwazon say nahe, hoslon say ura kartay hain.
Hum Parwazon say nahe, hoslon say ura kartay hain.
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Pakistan claims first airstrike with indigenous UAV
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
07 September 2015
The Pakistan Army on 7 September claimed to have successfully used an indigenously built armed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to target a Taliban location for the first time.
Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan's armed forces, said in a Twitter post that "a terrorist compound was hit and three militants were killed" in the Shawal valley of north Waziristan close to the Afghan border. He added that the air strike was carried out by the indigenous Burraq UAV.
The strike was the first time that a Pakistani UAV had demonstrated an offensive capability in the battlefield, departing from the country's known use of UAVs for reconnaissance purposes.
Pakistan claims first airstrike with indigenous UAV
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
07 September 2015
The Pakistan Army on 7 September claimed to have successfully used an indigenously built armed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to target a Taliban location for the first time.
Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan's armed forces, said in a Twitter post that "a terrorist compound was hit and three militants were killed" in the Shawal valley of north Waziristan close to the Afghan border. He added that the air strike was carried out by the indigenous Burraq UAV.
The strike was the first time that a Pakistani UAV had demonstrated an offensive capability in the battlefield, departing from the country's known use of UAVs for reconnaissance purposes.
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Pakistan claims first airstrike with indigenous UAV
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
08 September 2015
A screen capture from the March 2015 footage showing a successful test-firing of an apparently inert Barq missile. Source: Inter Services Public Relations
The Pakistan Army on 7 September claimed to have successfully used an indigenously built armed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to target a Taliban location for the first time.
Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan's armed forces, said in a Twitter post that "a terrorist compound was hit and three militants were killed" in the Shawal valley of north Waziristan close to the Afghan border. He added that the air strike was carried out by the indigenous Burraq UAV.
The strike was the first time that a Pakistani UAV had demonstrated an offensive capability in the battlefield, departing from the country's known use of UAVs for reconnaissance purposes.
Pakistani defence officials have previously told IHS Jane'sthe Burraq and Shahpar UAVs, both of which can be armed, were designed and built in country, although few technical details have been revealed.
Analysis of the two UAVs' platforms shows a close resemblance to China's CH-3 UAV. In 2010, IHS Jane'sreported that 20 CH-3s were to be delivered to Pakistan in 2011.
"Pakistan has a close working relationship with China for joint development of military hardware. In the past, China has helped Pakistan fill the gap and I suspect this is what has happened again with the latest [UAV] too," a senior Western defence official told IHS Jane's .
Pakistani officials have previously admitted to IHS Jane'sthat the country made several requests to the United States to purchase UAVs but were repeatedly rebuffed.
Pakistan army has 12 Burraq UAVs in its inventory and plans to build a total of 24.
Pakistan claims first airstrike with indigenous UAV
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
08 September 2015
A screen capture from the March 2015 footage showing a successful test-firing of an apparently inert Barq missile. Source: Inter Services Public Relations
The Pakistan Army on 7 September claimed to have successfully used an indigenously built armed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) to target a Taliban location for the first time.
Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan's armed forces, said in a Twitter post that "a terrorist compound was hit and three militants were killed" in the Shawal valley of north Waziristan close to the Afghan border. He added that the air strike was carried out by the indigenous Burraq UAV.
The strike was the first time that a Pakistani UAV had demonstrated an offensive capability in the battlefield, departing from the country's known use of UAVs for reconnaissance purposes.
Pakistani defence officials have previously told IHS Jane'sthe Burraq and Shahpar UAVs, both of which can be armed, were designed and built in country, although few technical details have been revealed.
Analysis of the two UAVs' platforms shows a close resemblance to China's CH-3 UAV. In 2010, IHS Jane'sreported that 20 CH-3s were to be delivered to Pakistan in 2011.
"Pakistan has a close working relationship with China for joint development of military hardware. In the past, China has helped Pakistan fill the gap and I suspect this is what has happened again with the latest [UAV] too," a senior Western defence official told IHS Jane's .
Pakistani officials have previously admitted to IHS Jane'sthat the country made several requests to the United States to purchase UAVs but were repeatedly rebuffed.
Pakistan army has 12 Burraq UAVs in its inventory and plans to build a total of 24.
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Pakistan announced that it had used its own indigenously-built armed drone against militants near the Afghan border, marking the first time the air asset – first revealed in March – has been used. It said that three militants were killed in the strike.
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Pakistan Surprises Many With First Use of Armed Drone
By Usman Ansari
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan has made its first acknowledged operational strike using its Burraq armed UAV, which analysts say shows a higher than expected level of sophistication in the military's real-time targeting capabilities.
The strike was confirmed via the Twitter account of the head of the military's media branch, Inter Services Public Relations, Maj Gen Asim Bajwa. A tweet dated Sept. 7 announced the first "ever use of Pak made Burraq Drone today. Hit a terrorist compound in Shawal Valley killing 3 high profile terrorists." It also said further details would follow.
The Shawal Valley in North Waziristan is the scene of a Pakistan military operation to clear out the last pockets of the Pakistani Taliban (TTP) and affiliated terrorist groups from Pakistani soil as part of the wider Operation Zarb-e-Azb.
"The Burraq and its targeting and command structure are obviously very much more sophisticated than many of us had imagined, spurring belief that [China's] influence, cooperation and input may have been considerable", said analyst Brian Cloughley, a former Australian defense attache to Islamabad. "This is not to denigrate the work of the drone manufacturer, NESCOM, which is an efficient organization, but it is extremely doubtful if its own drone technology capability is on a level that this development appears to reveal."
The Burraq and the similar Shahpar, which is said to be able to be armed, are widely believed to at least be developed from the Chinese CH-3 UAV if not license-produced versions by Pakistan's NESCOM.
Despite this milestone, there are "wider implications of drone employment [that] must be considered," Cloughley said. "In the tribal areas there is already widespread fear of drones and resentment against the government and the armed forces for the many civilian deaths that have resulted from US drone strikes. Drones and missiles don't display national identification, but even if the tribes could distinguish between US and Pakistani strikes, they would blame Islamabad for their results."
Analyst Kaiser Tufail said there are ethical issues, but Pakistan's targeting will likely be more discretionary.
"The usage of UAVs by foreign powers in other sovereign states has been a major issue, alongside the moral aspect of virtually 'clicking' to kill through impersonal and remotely actioned 'computer games,' " he said. However, "These aspects are not likely to hound countries like Pakistan, who have an own autonomous capability where the identity of insurgents is known much better than the US, which has been notorious for administering 'Hellfire' to wedding parties and funeral gatherings."
For the Pakistan Air Force, he said, this is the dawn of a new era.
"The future of warfare is getting more and more virtual," said Tufail, a former Air Force pilot. "By using UAVs, the risk of exposing pilots to being shot down is eliminated, besides the possibility of flying missions for days and weeks on end. The bio-support systems like ejection seats, oxygen supply and pressurization systems are obviated, lightening up the aircraft for more range/endurance and payload." he said.
Operationally, however, this is considerable step forward.
"The main advantage that I see is that air support does not have to be called in from long distances once a threat has emerged, and which can hide by the time the piloted aircraft arrive on the scene," Tufail said. "UAVs can loiter for hours, so the vulnerability of insurgents is also round-the-clock."
Potential interservice rivalry in UAV deployment needs to be addressed, he said.
"One of the issues I foresee is the battle of turf between the Army and the Air Force (and the Navy). Each has manufactured [or] purchased UAVs, but who uses them for what purpose has not been spelt out in any Inter-services roles and responsibilities document for UAVs," Tufail said. "This matter needs to be cleared up formally, before duplication of resources and effort takes its toll."
Pakistan Surprises Many With First Use of Armed Drone
By Usman Ansari
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan has made its first acknowledged operational strike using its Burraq armed UAV, which analysts say shows a higher than expected level of sophistication in the military's real-time targeting capabilities.
The strike was confirmed via the Twitter account of the head of the military's media branch, Inter Services Public Relations, Maj Gen Asim Bajwa. A tweet dated Sept. 7 announced the first "ever use of Pak made Burraq Drone today. Hit a terrorist compound in Shawal Valley killing 3 high profile terrorists." It also said further details would follow.
The Shawal Valley in North Waziristan is the scene of a Pakistan military operation to clear out the last pockets of the Pakistani Taliban (TTP) and affiliated terrorist groups from Pakistani soil as part of the wider Operation Zarb-e-Azb.
"The Burraq and its targeting and command structure are obviously very much more sophisticated than many of us had imagined, spurring belief that [China's] influence, cooperation and input may have been considerable", said analyst Brian Cloughley, a former Australian defense attache to Islamabad. "This is not to denigrate the work of the drone manufacturer, NESCOM, which is an efficient organization, but it is extremely doubtful if its own drone technology capability is on a level that this development appears to reveal."
The Burraq and the similar Shahpar, which is said to be able to be armed, are widely believed to at least be developed from the Chinese CH-3 UAV if not license-produced versions by Pakistan's NESCOM.
Despite this milestone, there are "wider implications of drone employment [that] must be considered," Cloughley said. "In the tribal areas there is already widespread fear of drones and resentment against the government and the armed forces for the many civilian deaths that have resulted from US drone strikes. Drones and missiles don't display national identification, but even if the tribes could distinguish between US and Pakistani strikes, they would blame Islamabad for their results."
Analyst Kaiser Tufail said there are ethical issues, but Pakistan's targeting will likely be more discretionary.
"The usage of UAVs by foreign powers in other sovereign states has been a major issue, alongside the moral aspect of virtually 'clicking' to kill through impersonal and remotely actioned 'computer games,' " he said. However, "These aspects are not likely to hound countries like Pakistan, who have an own autonomous capability where the identity of insurgents is known much better than the US, which has been notorious for administering 'Hellfire' to wedding parties and funeral gatherings."
For the Pakistan Air Force, he said, this is the dawn of a new era.
"The future of warfare is getting more and more virtual," said Tufail, a former Air Force pilot. "By using UAVs, the risk of exposing pilots to being shot down is eliminated, besides the possibility of flying missions for days and weeks on end. The bio-support systems like ejection seats, oxygen supply and pressurization systems are obviated, lightening up the aircraft for more range/endurance and payload." he said.
Operationally, however, this is considerable step forward.
"The main advantage that I see is that air support does not have to be called in from long distances once a threat has emerged, and which can hide by the time the piloted aircraft arrive on the scene," Tufail said. "UAVs can loiter for hours, so the vulnerability of insurgents is also round-the-clock."
Potential interservice rivalry in UAV deployment needs to be addressed, he said.
"One of the issues I foresee is the battle of turf between the Army and the Air Force (and the Navy). Each has manufactured [or] purchased UAVs, but who uses them for what purpose has not been spelt out in any Inter-services roles and responsibilities document for UAVs," Tufail said. "This matter needs to be cleared up formally, before duplication of resources and effort takes its toll."
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China assisted Pakistan on armed drone, say experts
Unmanned aerial vehicle owes ‘at least a heavy debt’ to Chinese systems
by: FARHAN BOKHARI in Islamabad
A Pakistani Burraq drone on display earlier this year
A lethal missile attack this week on Islamist militants by Pakistani forces was carried out with an armed drone likely to have been supported, designed or supplied by China, according to defence analysts.
The Pakistan army on Monday claimed it successfully used the “Burraq” unmanned aerial vehicle for an attack on a terrorist compound in the north Waziristan region along the Afghan border, in which three Taliban militants were killed.
Announced via Twitter by Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan’s armed forces, it was the first known use of an armed Pakistani drone. “For now, the authorities believe their ability to target hardcore militants has improved with this drone capability,” said one western diplomat.
SEPTEMBER 8, 2015
The attack appeared to mark a significant milestone for Pakistan, which has now joined the small club of countries with armed drones. In the past, Islamabad repeatedly sought to buy them from the US but Washington, reluctant to export sensitive technology, refused.
However, China — an ally of nuclear-armed Pakistan and its most important conventional weapons supplier — appears to have stepped up its support.
Neil Gibson, a weapons analyst with IHS Jane’s, said that despite the claims of Pakistani manufacture, “close analysis of imagery released by Pakistan suggests at least a heavy debt to Chinese systems”. The Burraq, he added, “strongly resembles” China’s CH-3 UAV.
Pieter Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), said China must have helped Pakistan if it did indeed produce a UAV that goes beyond basic reconnaissance.
“Developing a drone with armed capability is much more difficult than just a reconnaissance one because the reconnaissance one can be built with very basic technology, but integrating weapons is a different level,” he said. “Either it is a Chinese UAV or based on Chinese technology.”
Drone attacks by governments, whether on foreign targets or their own citizens, have become increasingly controversial, with theBritish government in the spotlight for killing two British jihadis in Syria this month.
Pakistan has been the site of numerous attacks by US drones on militant targets. Some of the raids caused civilian deaths and the US drone killings — although carried out with the knowledge of the Pakistani authorities — have been routinely condemned in public by the Pakistan government.
A 2013 report by Amnesty International analysed 45 drone strikes in North Waziristan and alleged that the US had carried out unlawful killings, some of which could amount to war crimes.
China’s suspected link with Pakistan’s drone programme underlines Beijing’s status as the main weapons supplier to the country.
Sipri said this year that just over half of Pakistan’s weapon imports from 2010 to 2014 came from China, and 30 per cent from the US. Pakistan emerged as China’s largest arms customer, accounting for 41 per cent of Beijing’s exports during the same period.
Additional reporting by Victor Mallet in New Delhi
Unmanned aerial vehicle owes ‘at least a heavy debt’ to Chinese systems
by: FARHAN BOKHARI in Islamabad
A Pakistani Burraq drone on display earlier this year
A lethal missile attack this week on Islamist militants by Pakistani forces was carried out with an armed drone likely to have been supported, designed or supplied by China, according to defence analysts.
The Pakistan army on Monday claimed it successfully used the “Burraq” unmanned aerial vehicle for an attack on a terrorist compound in the north Waziristan region along the Afghan border, in which three Taliban militants were killed.
Announced via Twitter by Major General Asim Bajwa, chief spokesman of Pakistan’s armed forces, it was the first known use of an armed Pakistani drone. “For now, the authorities believe their ability to target hardcore militants has improved with this drone capability,” said one western diplomat.
SEPTEMBER 8, 2015
The attack appeared to mark a significant milestone for Pakistan, which has now joined the small club of countries with armed drones. In the past, Islamabad repeatedly sought to buy them from the US but Washington, reluctant to export sensitive technology, refused.
However, China — an ally of nuclear-armed Pakistan and its most important conventional weapons supplier — appears to have stepped up its support.
Neil Gibson, a weapons analyst with IHS Jane’s, said that despite the claims of Pakistani manufacture, “close analysis of imagery released by Pakistan suggests at least a heavy debt to Chinese systems”. The Burraq, he added, “strongly resembles” China’s CH-3 UAV.
Pieter Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), said China must have helped Pakistan if it did indeed produce a UAV that goes beyond basic reconnaissance.
“Developing a drone with armed capability is much more difficult than just a reconnaissance one because the reconnaissance one can be built with very basic technology, but integrating weapons is a different level,” he said. “Either it is a Chinese UAV or based on Chinese technology.”
Drone attacks by governments, whether on foreign targets or their own citizens, have become increasingly controversial, with theBritish government in the spotlight for killing two British jihadis in Syria this month.
Pakistan has been the site of numerous attacks by US drones on militant targets. Some of the raids caused civilian deaths and the US drone killings — although carried out with the knowledge of the Pakistani authorities — have been routinely condemned in public by the Pakistan government.
A 2013 report by Amnesty International analysed 45 drone strikes in North Waziristan and alleged that the US had carried out unlawful killings, some of which could amount to war crimes.
China’s suspected link with Pakistan’s drone programme underlines Beijing’s status as the main weapons supplier to the country.
Sipri said this year that just over half of Pakistan’s weapon imports from 2010 to 2014 came from China, and 30 per cent from the US. Pakistan emerged as China’s largest arms customer, accounting for 41 per cent of Beijing’s exports during the same period.
Additional reporting by Victor Mallet in New Delhi
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Sept 19/14: Pakistan. The US DSCA announces Pakistan’s official export request for 160 Navistar Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles. That would certainly be an easy delivery from Afghanistan, for Excess Defense Article vehicles that the US Army was prepared to blow up rather than paying to ship them home:
30 MaxxPro Base DXM
110 MaxxPro Dash DXM
10 MaxxPro Dash DXM Ambulances
10 MaxxPro Recovery Vehicles with protection kits
spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and equipment training, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support.
The estimated cost is $198 million. These vehicles would be added to 22 MaxxPros (incl. 2 MRV recovery vehicles) that were already transferred under the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund. The country’s years-long civil war involving the Pakistani Taliban will certainly provide Pakistan with opportunities to use these vehicles.
The principal contractor will be Navistar Defense Corporation in Madison Heights, MI. The proposed sale will require about 2 US Government and 24 Navistar contractor representatives in Pakistan for a period of approximately 18 months. They’ll perform inspections and deprocessing of vehicles upon delivery; provide assistance in installation of vehicle accessory kits; provide fault diagnosis and repairs; perform corrective maintenance, to include accident and battle damage assessment and repairs; conduct operator and maintainer training; and conduct inventories and maintain accountability of USG provided material. Sources: US DSCA #14-32, “Pakistan – Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles” | Gannet Military Times, “Source: Pakistan already has U.S.-made MRAPs, new deal in works” (April 2014).
Any update on this
30 MaxxPro Base DXM
110 MaxxPro Dash DXM
10 MaxxPro Dash DXM Ambulances
10 MaxxPro Recovery Vehicles with protection kits
spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and equipment training, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support.
The estimated cost is $198 million. These vehicles would be added to 22 MaxxPros (incl. 2 MRV recovery vehicles) that were already transferred under the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund. The country’s years-long civil war involving the Pakistani Taliban will certainly provide Pakistan with opportunities to use these vehicles.
The principal contractor will be Navistar Defense Corporation in Madison Heights, MI. The proposed sale will require about 2 US Government and 24 Navistar contractor representatives in Pakistan for a period of approximately 18 months. They’ll perform inspections and deprocessing of vehicles upon delivery; provide assistance in installation of vehicle accessory kits; provide fault diagnosis and repairs; perform corrective maintenance, to include accident and battle damage assessment and repairs; conduct operator and maintainer training; and conduct inventories and maintain accountability of USG provided material. Sources: US DSCA #14-32, “Pakistan – Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Vehicles” | Gannet Military Times, “Source: Pakistan already has U.S.-made MRAPs, new deal in works” (April 2014).
Any update on this
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