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turkey is good minus nuclear capabilities.Turkey is equal but iran is not....
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turkey is good minus nuclear capabilities.Turkey is equal but iran is not....
Pakistan is largest weapon producer in Muslim world....
i wonder what we can do together
An interesting suggestion. Take your idea to the movie producers of Lollywood. I wonder if Pakistani and Egyptian movie producers got together, they might produce a hit movie.belle dance
The Egyptians have come to us. We didn't go to them. First they will tell us their agenda and then we will think about it. Cold War 1.0 is over and Cold War 2.0 is just starting. The scenario is different now and we have to act according to current realities.A few off the cuff conversations over drinks......soft OR otherwise.
Mideast situation is evolving at a dizzying pace, we ALL must try and keep up. For now let us concentrate on this aspect first: How favorably do the current Egyptian commanders view Pakistan versus say... India, or Afghanistan? .....Some of these officers can recall the days when Egypt was friends with USSR and her clients circa 1969-1972. All I am saying is just be careful and keep it 'conventional'. Just sayin'
An interesting suggestion. Take your idea to the movie producers of Lollywood. I wonder if Pakistani and Egyptian movie producers got together, they might produce a hit movie.
The Egyptians have come to us. We didn't go to them. First they will tell us their agenda and then we will think about it. Cold War 1.0 is over and Cold War 2.0 is just starting. The scenario is different now and we have to act according to current realities.
Search the net and you will find plenty of them. Although I am not a fan of Pakistani movies, there may be others on this forum who can guide you to some good hit movies.i have never watched a Pakistani movie before
i think after the rafale and mig deal whether its 35 or M/M2 the JF-17 has a very small chance to join the EAF unless the commanders see something new on the upcoming block III of your plane and in that case egypt still looking for cheap plane to replace their F-7 and the very few Mig-21 that still in service
Please, don't mistakenly end up watching those embarrassing Pakistani Punjabi films, those don't represent real Pakistani culture lol.i have never watched a Pakistani movie before
I think the deal never went through due to the issue of Russian engine used on JF-17, which if im correct (perhaps a more knowledgeable member can enlighten us) the Russians were reluctant to allow Pakistan and China to sell due to the loss of a potential customer (EAF).The JF-17 would be a great addition to the EAF and to Egypt's military aviation industry if some form of coproduction with transfer of technology happens.
What it would provide the EAF is flexibility, while it will still be a 'second tier fighter'. While it was initially marketed (wrongly in my opinion) as being a cheap replacement for third generation aircraft its real selling point is the 'plug and play' concept. The ability to integrate western or eastern tech as per a customers request is really promising, for instance imagine a JF-17 with an Italian AESA radar or French avionics, or Russian IRST systems or recon pods. However, with the integration of more advanced tech the price of the fighter increases. It should theoretically provide the operator with a 'sanction proof' fighter.
Perhaps the most important thing for the EAF would be the ability to procure an array of Chinese and Pakistani cruise missiles, AShMs, stand off munitions, and precision guided munitions. Munitions that the US is always reluctant to provide to Egypt for our 16s.
The Rafale deal and the MiG/SU (whatever, it is I'm waiting till deliverey there's way too much misinformation and rumors) deals will not be sufficient to cover the number of aircraft retiring, assuming the EAF doesn't want to downsize (something I would actually be in favour of across the board in the Egyptian Armed Forces) and wants a one to one replacement for all its fighters. I would not be surprised if we sell some of our 16s and upgrade the rest in the coming years to B52, however, the lack of AIM-120 and AIM-9X on them is still a worry, although the matter of BVR will be dealt with by introducing the Rafale and Russian platforms, and potentially the JF-17 (SD-10).
Although I do believe the EAF and other forces are awaiting the Block III aircraft with the Chinese WS-13 (IIRC) and a twin seat variant (which should have been introduced at the beginning of export talk). Twin seat variants are especially important for the EAF as young pilots are paired with veteran pilots on the -16 (or older aircraft) until they move onto the F-16C. It may have not been very important for Pak but for others out there it's a necessity, no matter how how easy it is to fly.
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Hopefully this eventually leads to meaningful cooperation.
Yeah, indians tend to recycle the same story line in every movie or they just outright copy American films.i hope that it's better than indian movies because srs indian movies are the worst movies a human can watch Lol.
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it is, look at the size of our forces, Combined they rank as 6th largest in the world.
because thats a defence forum.Why do some people flout the news
the numbers yr getting r in very small of those aircrafts. JFT will come with Transfer of Technology and Domestic production. That means u can make yr own clones of it based on yr own needs, plus u can replace then easily if a unit crashes or r lost in wars in future. So see long term objectives.i think after the rafale and mig deal whether its 35 or M/M2 the JF-17 has a very small chance to join the EAF unless the commanders see something new on the upcoming block III of your plane and in that case egypt still looking for cheap plane to replace their F-7 and the very few Mig-21 that still in service
he can watch Waar.Please, don't mistakenly end up watching those embarrassing Pakistani Punjabi films, those don't represent real Pakistani culture lol.