Pakistan Air Force Transport

[fatman17]

6 will get upgrade and what is about the rest of the fleet ?

6 from Australia already refurbished. That leaves 4 to be upgraded.

 

[fatman17]

If there were a list of possible C-130 successors in the PAF, the C-27J would probably be on it. The only drawback would be the fact that it is a Western aircraft, and although not American, the possibility of sanctions is still there. The An-178 would be a much safer bet than the C-27J and KC-390.

The most likely option would be C130H from EDA stocks or the IL78 with the new powerplant.

 

[Arsalan]

If there were a list of possible C-130 successors in the PAF, the C-27J would probably be on it. The only drawback would be the fact that it is a Western aircraft, and although not American, the possibility of sanctions is still there. The An-178 would be a much safer bet than the C-27J and KC-390.

Apart from being "western" it seriously lack payload capability. The load carrying capability of C-27 is half then that of a C-130. C-130 with about 20ton capacity fits in nicely between the medium/lower life aircraft and heavier transport aircraft. I will again say that the Y-8 and Y-9 with appx 22 - 25ton capacity will be the most probable replacement. It is not that we will be operating different aircraft for 10ton, different for 20 and then different one for heavier loads. The 25 ton marks sits nicely between the low/medium capacity and heavy load capability and that is what PA/PAF will look for. The heavy strategic lifting role will then be the job of IL-78 and we may go for a few (3-5 platforms IF required and WHEN funds allow). Anyway that il-76 part is not significant, the thing is PAF/PA will look for an aircraft with similar load carrying capability to C-130s. Also keep in mind that the current fleet of C-130 is here to stay for some years (is being refurbished)

 

[Imran Khan]

yesterday i seen one of C-130 wings were being kept in front of chaklala c-130 upgrade hanger and rest of c-130 was inside hanger visible

 

[niaz]

C-130 in its various versions is still the best medium lift aircraft in the world. Now even India has a fleet of 12 C-130J’s. Brother of a close friend of mine (ex- F-86 pilot of the 65 war) due to some medical problem was later transferred to Hercs; according to him PAF loved the ruggedness & versatility of the C-130.

PAF has extensive experience with this aircraft. Understand there are 18 C-130’s in service and in my opinion; instead of replacing with a new medium transport aircraft; we should try to keep up the same number in flying condition.

Because its has been in service for more than 50 years, there are plenty of 2nd hand C-130’s available. Following the example of Mirages, PAF could continue buying used C-130 from wherever the same are available and have these either refurbished and / or cannibalised for the spare parts. Current PAF C-130’; if properly maintained and updated with modern avionics; could easily serve PAF needs for say another 10 to 15 years. By then used C-130K’s & C-130 J’s would become available.

C-130 has been in PAF service since 1960, wouldn’t be surprised if continues for another 25 years in one form or another.

 

[The Great One (Mod ver)]

C-130 in its various versions is still the best medium lift aircraft in the world. Now even India has a fleet of 12 C-130J’s. Brother of a close friend of mine (ex- F-86 pilot of the 65 war) due to some medical problem was later transferred to Hercs; according to him PAF loved the ruggedness & versatility of the C-130.

PAF has extensive experience with this aircraft. Understand there are 18 C-130’s in service and in my opinion; instead of replacing with a new medium transport aircraft; we should try to keep up the same number in flying condition.

Because its has been in service for more than 50 years, there are plenty of 2nd hand C-130’s available. Following the example of Mirages, PAF could continue buying used C-130 from wherever the same are available and have these either refurbished and / or cannibalised for the spare parts. Current PAF C-130’; if properly maintained and updated with modern avionics; could easily serve PAF needs for say another 10 to 15 years. By then used C-130K’s & C-130 J’s would become available.

C-130 has been in PAF service since 1960, wouldn’t be surprised if continues for another 25 years in one form or another.

USAF is in the process of shaving off 58 excess C-130's. And even then they'll end up with 52 more than DoD's requirements, so I think there'd be plenty of C-130's in the 2nd hand market.

 

[black-hawk_101]

PAF can buy ex-austrailian C-130s and may be the remaining P-3Cs as well.

 

[fatman17]

MRTT

 

[Arsalan]

MRTT

it went for summer vacation to some cold place?
the picture look quite old, cannot think of a place with snow these days where the plane need to be right now.

 

[fatman17]

it went for summer vacation to some cold place?
the picture look quite old, cannot think of a place with snow these days where the plane need to be right now.

Ukraine a few yrs ago

 

[monitor]

Update: KC-390 airlifter makes maiden flight
Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
04 February 2015

An infographic showing how the KC-390 compares with its closest competitors. Source: IHS
The Embraer KC-390 transport aircraft made its maiden flight from the company's Gavião Peixoto production facility, north of São Paulo, on 3 February.

The flight of the first of two prototype platforms lasted for 1 hour and 25 minutes, during which time the crew evaluated the twin jet's handling characteristics and performance.

With the first flight now completed, the company will work to prepare the second prototype for trials in the coming weeks. Certification of the 'green' aircraft is expected at the end of 2015, with the final operational clearance set for mid-2016.

The KC-390 is billed as being able to carry 23 tonnes (or a concentrated maximum payload of 26 tonnes over the centre of gravity) at 470 kt (Mach 0.8) out to 1,300 n miles. A typical payload would include 80 regular troops or 64 paratroopers, or three Humvee-sized vehicles or a single Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk utility helicopter. The ramp, which is longer than that of most aircraft of its class in order to ease access for vehicles, is limited to 4.5 tonnes.

In addition to its baseline cargo/troop transport configuration, the KC-390 will be equipped to perform aerial refuelling and will have provisions for an electro-optic/infrared pod for a secondary search-and-rescue role.

Although billed as a competitor to the Lockheed Martin C-130J Hercules (22 tonnes payload), the KC-390's other primary competitors include the Antonov An-70 (47 tonnes) and Airbus Military A400M Atlas (37 tonnes).

The Brazilian Air Force has ordered 28 KC-390 aircraft (plus the two prototypes, which will be refurbished after trials are complete), with production set to run through to 2023. Embraer has also received letters of intent from Colombia (12 aircraft), Argentina (6), Chile (6), Portugal (6), and the Czech Republic (2).

This story, first published on 4 January, has been updated with an infographic

COMMENT
The first flight of the KC-390 was originally billed to have taken place in late 2014. With the development and production schedule being so tight, programme officials will be especially relieved to have got this major milestone under their belt.

Although Embraer has 30 firm orders for the Brazilian Air Force, it currently only has letters of intent for the 32 export aircraft. The C-130J-30 is already operationally proven and ready for delivery and, while the A400M programme has been experiencing some delivery delays of its own lately, that platform too is ready for fielding. While production of the An-70 has been approved, poor relations between the partner nations of Ukraine and Russia will almost certainly have a detrimental effect on that programme.

Embraer, therefore, needs to complete trials and get the KC-390 into serial production at the earliest opportunity if it is not to lose too much ground to its competitors in the global race for sales. That said, interest in the Brazilian airlifter is high, with high-ranking military and political representatives from 32 countries attending the official roll-out ceremony in October 2014.

The first of the two prototype KC-390 transport aircraft departs Embraer's Gavi&[HASHTAG]#227[/HASHTAG];o Peixoto production facility on its maiden flight. (Embraer)



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[Imran Khan]

nothing to do with us man

 

[nomi007]

 

[nomi007]

Lockheed C-130E Hercules
Manufacturer:
Lockheed
Type/Model:
C-130 Hercules
Registration:
4180
Colour Scheme:
Pakistan - Air Force
Location:
Paris - Le Bourget, France
Taken By:
Paul Marais-Hayer
Date Taken:
10th June 2015
Image ID:
223048

 

[Reddawn]

Rafi do you know which transport planes the Chinese presented to the ACM? Are there any plans to introduce the Z20 to replace the Mi17 and Puma fleets?