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[SQ8]

Any reliable range figures on the Grifo MG Radar?

http://www.selexgalileo.com/~/media/Files/S/Selex-Galileo/documents/press-backgrounders/04grifo-family-backgrounder.pdf

Maximum Range is not stated but it has slightly greater range than the basic 20nm look down of the Grifo-7P.
So a rough estimate might be 30nm look up and 25nm Look down.

 

[airomerix]

Any reliable range figures on the Grifo MG Radar?

I am afraid the real figures are classified. Rough figures on the google might be available.

 

[Chak Bamu]

I think 39 nm Look up might be more correct. This was the range of Grifo 7, MG being a latter version is probably better.

 

[Bilal.]

IIRC it's 57km lookup.

 

[Donatello]

http://www.selexgalileo.com/~/media/Files/S/Selex-Galileo/documents/press-backgrounders/04grifo-family-backgrounder.pdf

Maximum Range is not stated but it has slightly greater range than the basic 20nm look down of the Grifo-7P.
So a rough estimate might be 30nm look up and 25nm Look down.

Makes sense, since it would be able guide a BVR missile. Well technically a visual range is what....7-9 km at max.....so anything above that is Beyond Visual Range. But 40-50km BVR range gives the F-7PG a chance in the fight, say if it has to take on the (Usual) adversary's Migs and Jaguars.

 

[Tacticool]

Why not we equip our f-7pgs with a-darter like mirages.

 

[airomerix]

^A major undertaking and far from reality. We will have to pay through our nose for that.

 

[Najam Khan]

I see F-7PGs and ROSE-III Mirages remain as workhorse of PAF even after 2020. A decent strength of at least 2 units of each type or minimum 40 a/c should be maintained. Because there are certain performance attributes in which these aircraft can perform better (or say cheaper/cost-efficient) than a F-16.

Pakistan has smaller strategic depth, its Air Force has 2 commands under which assets are distributed in a way maximum area is covered. A 3rd Gen aircraft such as F-7PG/ROSE Mirage is even lethal in Indo-Pak scenario; as F-7PG with some decent/make-shift BVR capability fits the profile for interceptor and ROSE Mirage is suitable for long-range Tactial Attack/Recce profiles.

Having said that, JF-17 shall be the main tier for air defence role (along with F-16s); its BVR capability and Long-Range (and precision guided) Surface attack munitions are very important for survival of PAF in near future. One or two year delays in JF-17 program cannot derail the overall PAF modernization and re-equipment plan. This program has to reach its estimated milestones i.e 150 aircraft with weapons/logistics chain.

In the meantime procurement of more F-16s in 'good deals' along with MLU modernization of existing fleet should be done.

 

[araz]

The F-7PG is an entirely different variant as compared to the 'P/M/S/A' versions.

The structural differences include new wings which are strengthened and reinforced to carry more payload. The addition of raked wing tips give the aircraft capability to sustain sharper turns making it more versatile. Plus a 3 piece canopy (F-7P) was replaced by a single piece one which is much simpler and safer to operate.

Other differences include the replacing of Italian FIAR Grifo-Mk-II radar (F-7P) with the Italian FIAR Grifo-MG radar system which has increased detection range and can track multiple targets aswell. Further more, indigenous electronics from PAC Kamra and AWC Wah Cantt make the the F-7PG an entirely different aircraft as compared to its other variants in service with PAF. Those electronics include ACMI system and so on.

A quick question can A F7p be upgraded to PG standard and what would be the costs involved. My own assumption is that it was deemed financially not viable and therefore not done.
Araz

 

[airomerix]

A quick question can A F7p be upgraded to PG standard and what would be the costs involved. My own assumption is that it was deemed financially not viable and therefore not done.
Araz

Too expensive and impractical. Its similar to upgrading F-16 block 10 to block 60, which will require extensive cutting and replacing of parts like a bigger air inlet etc.

In the case of F-7s. The wings, canopy. engine, radar.avionics will require replacement. Too much for 'upgradation'.

Even the engines are different in both the variants. The 'P' version is equipped with Liyang WP-7 which has a maximum TOW of 3,900kg and maximum thrust of 8,598lb. Where as the 'PG' is powered by Liyang WP-13F which has a max TOW of 4,497kg with a max thrust of 9,914lb.

Hence too many major differences. Building a new jet would cost lesser fortune.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Guys any idea which Crash Fire Tender (CFT) the PAF fields?


@Aeronaut @Oscar @anyone

 

[aqdus]

can any body tell me WHEN WILL WE GET JFT BLOCK 2 ????????????????????????

can any body tell me WHEN WILL WE GET JFT BLOCK 2 ????????????????????????

 

[hassan1]

bristol brigand b-1b

 

[Tacticool]

can any body tell me WHEN WILL WE GET JFT BLOCK 2 ????????????????????????

By the end of next year or by the start of 2015 may be

 

[Patriots]

Miss Sharista Baig, daughter of Col.Mahmud Baig is the first GD fighter pilot from Gilgit Baltistan. She belongs to Karimabad Hunza.

Wish her all the best! A proud moment for Women of Pakistan.

This is Pakistan & I am proud to be Pakistani