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INTEL REPORT: Masters of Mirage maintenance
Alan Warnes goes behind the scenes at the Mirage Rebuild Factory at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra.

http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/the-magazine/view-issue/
It's a snippet from that article: "The past PAF leadership’s investment in the MRF is reaping dividends decades later, and the work will continue until the JF-17 Thunder is mature enough, or a new fighter has been acquired, to take on most of the Mirage’s roles." @Oscar That should pretty much authenticate what you had been saying about the PAF seeking (at one point) a new strike fighter to supplant the Mirages. Seems that road has split to also (or only) see a more strike-capable JF-17.
 
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Anything new in FORCE REPORT: Nigerian Air Force Part Two
In the second and concluding part of AFM’s fascinating study of the Nigerian Air Force, M Mazumdar examines post-2014 combat operations, its plans and provides a full air order of battle.

Not sure if there was something new in part one ?

Lastly if the news of 3 new HP on block 3 is correct then perhaps a jf will r place all mirages

New Ac if acquired will be kind of add on new capability or replacement for rose 2/3 Ac ie no 25 and 26 sqn the late mirage sqn to convert to jf or the new type

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It's a snippet from that article: "The past PAF leadership’s investment in the MRF is reaping dividends decades later, and the work will continue until the JF-17 Thunder is mature enough, or a new fighter has been acquired, to take on most of the Mirage’s roles." @Oscar That should pretty much authenticate what you had been saying about the PAF seeking (at one point) a new strike fighter to supplant the Mirages. Seems that road has split to also (or only) see a more strike-capable JF-17.

Anyone can download AFM pdf. Not allowed to post magazine screenshots on defence.pk as those are copyright violations.

Regarding the need of a strike fighter, I would suggest JH-7 Flounder. (@MastanKhan has been saying this for years now. )
 
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The PAF is not as pragmatic as the PN. While the PN will "pick up whatever works whenever it is available", the PAF seems to gun for optimizing every single asset to do as much as possible. In other words, the PAF will probably avoid specialized strike platforms (as light as turboprops to as heavy as JH-7A) and seek a strike-capable multi-role fighter.
 
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the PAF seems to gun for optimizing every single asset to do as much as possible. In other words, the PAF will probably avoid specialized strike platforms (as light as turboprops to as heavy as JH-7A) and seek a strike-capable multi-role fighter.

Mirages are more CAS assets now than MR. It is evident from PA Command / Corps level exercises conducted in recent years.

JH-7 with JF-17 escort (connected with AWACS and each other via data-link) can conduct SEAD, CAS and ALCM/SOW missions over medium distances. Pakistan can rely on GLCM and ballistic missiles for striking 'deep'.

You don't have much to choose from with little money in pockets. Su-35, EF Typhoon or even MiG-35 / J-10 nowhere in sight.
 
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Anything new in FORCE REPORT: Nigerian Air Force Part Two
In the second and concluding part of AFM’s fascinating study of the Nigerian Air Force, M Mazumdar examines post-2014 combat operations, its plans and provides a full air order of battle.

Not sure if there was something new in part one ?

Lastly if the news of 3 new HP on block 3 is correct then perhaps a jf will r place all mirages

New Ac if acquired will be kind of add on new capability or replacement for rose 2/3 Ac ie no 25 and 26 sqn the late mirage sqn to convert to jf or the new type

IMO
I think if the engine is more capable tben increasing the Hardpoints seems more logical. However a safer bet may well be DERS for BVRs which might make things good enough at a cost. Inlet mounted HP is certai to accomodate the Aselsan pod.
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I think if the engine is more capable tben increasing the Hardpoints seems more logical. However a safer bet may well be DERS for BVRs which might make things good enough at a cost. Inlet mounted HP is certai to accomodate the Aselsan pod.
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You can have more HP but as long as you do it exceed max take off weight / external load you should be fine idea is to give more configuration options with in the existing limit

Of course you will have to test various configurations

If mirage with 1: .68 thrust to weight ration in clean configuration then jf with .99 or 1 plus ( with 50% internal fuel) you are fine
 
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Anyone can download AFM pdf. Not allowed to post magazine screenshots on defence.pk as those are copyright violations.

Regarding the need of a strike fighter, I would suggest JH-7 Flounder. (@MastanKhan has been saying this for years now. )
I second that JH-7 with combo JF17 and ZDK 3 will be good enough to strike Indian task force coming towards our waters cheap easy to maintain twinengine heavy load is good enough .
 
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Mirages are more CAS assets now than MR. It is evident from PA Command / Corps level exercises conducted in recent years.

JH-7 with JF-17 escort (connected with AWACS and each other via data-link) can conduct SEAD, CAS and ALCM/SOW missions over medium distances. Pakistan can rely on GLCM and ballistic missiles for striking 'deep'.

You don't have much to choose from with little money in pockets. Su-35, EF Typhoon or even MiG-35 / J-10 nowhere in sight.
If they can't get the Su-35 or Typhoon, then IMO they'll just hold out until a suitable 5th-gen solution is available. I don't think we could expect Project Azm that soon, likely post-JF-17 if the aim is to keep most of the design and development work in-country. Rather, they'll seek the FC-31, TFX or J-20.
 
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If they can't get the Su-35 or Typhoon, then IMO they'll just hold out until a suitable 5th-gen solution is available. I don't think we could expect Project Azm that soon, likely post-JF-17 if the aim is to keep most of the design and development work in-country. Rather, they'll seek the FC-31, TFX or J-20.

Currently, PAF wants to acquire 1 more F-16 squadron (new or used) which isn't materializing, unfortunately.

Next in line are 2 Mirage squadrons mainly doing ground attack roles. While heavy 4.5 gen MR aircraft replacements are ideal, no progress is being made with any available option.
(PAF continues to try revive dead bodies with more overhauls) So, JH-7 appears a possible option.

PAC can't develop a trainer without foreign help. They should sign TFX as partner as soon as possible. The next thing coming to the neighbourhood is F-35 I believe.
 
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Currenly, PAF wants to acquire 1 more F-16 squadron (new or used) which isn't materializing, unfortunately.

Next in line are 2 Mirage squadrons mainly doing ground attack roles. While heavy 4.5 gen MR aircraft replacements are ideal, no progress is being made with any available option.
(PAF continues to try revive dead bodies with more overhauls) So, JH-7 appears a possible option.

PAC can't develop a trainer without foreign help. They should sign TFX as partner as soon as possible. The next thing coming to the neighbourhood is F-35 I believe.

Khatey ke Khar un khatey deh it will sooner or later
 
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Currenly, PAF wants to acquire 1 more F-16 squadron (new or used) which isn't materializing, unfortunately.

Next in line are 2 Mirage squadrons mainly doing ground attack roles. While heavy 4.5 gen MR aircraft replacements are ideal, no progress is being made with any available option.
(PAF continues to try revive dead bodies with more overhauls) So, JH-7 appears a possible option.

PAC can't develop a trainer without foreign help. They should sign TFX as partner as soon as possible. The next thing coming to the neighbourhood is F-35 I believe.
I read yesterday indians pulling out from SU 57 5th generation programe if it is true our chances for Su family r bright plus F35 coming india very likely .Mind no Airforce is happySo far F35 performance including israel.its pretty much American forcing other countries to buy them .
 
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Myanmar Thunder??

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Currently, PAF wants to acquire 1 more F-16 squadron (new or used) which isn't materializing, unfortunately.

Next in line are 2 Mirage squadrons mainly doing ground attack roles. While heavy 4.5 gen MR aircraft replacements are ideal, no progress is being made with any available option.
(PAF continues to try revive dead bodies with more overhauls) So, JH-7 appears a possible option.

PAC can't develop a trainer without foreign help. They should sign TFX as partner as soon as possible. The next thing coming to the neighbourhood is F-35 I believe.

Jh-7 does not meet paf profile ie multi role aircraft plus its old technology profile no leading edge and other latest

It’s equivalent to su-24 and fb-111 and tornado variant for ground attack paf is tactical Air Force and it will prefer multi role rather then specialized aircraft

Uses 1960s technology spey engine and its chinese copies it’s international version has never found a buyer and total production of around 100 by plaaf plus plaan tells you something ;)


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/xianjh7fighterbomber/

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/aircraft/types/type-details/xian-jh-7-flounder.htm
 
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