Shaer ke eek din ke zindage geedar ke 100 saal ki zindage say ziada behtar hey... daily marnay say behtar hey eek baar maro aur maroo thats what afta 9/11 is"
where are you these days shaer sahib? Are you living like a shaer thse days somewhere? Might as well show us how you do that so that we can take the inspiration too.
what you said is very heart rending but easier said than done.
would you rather Pakistan be Somalia or Afghanistan then? granted the situation currently we are in is very dismal but who is to blame? Pak army? Why? Because army is conducting operations in FATA and the militants are terrorising our public? Hmm I see
That means one should also oppose the operation cleanup in Karachi against the gangs and mafia and any reprisal from the gangs should be blamed on police, rangers and paramilitary?
In my mind I have come up with a typical person I call him Rana Gulnawaz, (more about him some other time)
I can imagine how this conversation will flow. When I ask him why he wont oppose to Karachi operation but objects to Pakistan armys fight against the TTP
Well Karachi violence is not the same as the fight with Taliban
How so? I dare ask
Well those gangs are criminals and they are not fighting for Islam.
Sorry I am shocked & confused.
Yes you should be, how dare you question the piety and righteous jihad of the Taliban and compare it with the gangsters of Karachi who dont have a beard and dont even yell Allah o Akbar before killing.
So if a criminal uses religion as a justification of terror and violence then he is automatically right? And it makes the army operation in Waziristan is wrong?
Yes this is what the Taliban are trying to teach the Pakistanis and they are fully justified to kill the civilians and if the civilians are Muslims then they shouldnt complain because Taliban are doing them a favour by taking them with them to share the 72 virgins. Mashallah.
Oh I see, so you will support security operation in Karachi and confronting the Karachi land mafia and gangsters but not the war on terror? Because Taliban use Islam as the justification for their violence?
Astaghfirullah dont try to twist my words you fascist liberal, I am sure you drink alcohol and women of your families dont observe hijab & spend their time in the company of males. You will never understand this because you are influenced by the Zionist propaganda
I am sorry, why do you always have to expect the worse of anyone who dares to question your line of thinking? I dont have to drink alcohol to see killing of an innocent as plain murder and a crime whether its committed by a Taliban follower or a gangster. And for your information, the women of my family are very dignified & live a respectful life and observe the local and religious norms. And finally I dont really have to listen to Western media which you term Zionists to criticise the Taliban because they are themselves doing a very good job.
Haha, so at last even a liberal admits that Taliban are doing a good job.
Never mind, I misunderstood your comprehension about this. So in your view confronting Taliban is wrong because they are religious and secondly Americans are funding the WoT? Therefore our secuty forces should settle with the Karachi gangsters?
Yes because the war on terror is being fought on American crusader money whereas the Karachi operation will be from the Pakistani tax payers. And secondly the criminals in Karachi are not true Muslims like Taliban are.
I see, but will you support the army operation if the Saudi and some other Arab Sheikhs & organisations switch sides and start funding Pakistan army?
Yes indeed, Alhamdullillah Arabs are our brothers and true and purest of the pure Muslims, taking their money to fight the Taliban will be fine
. But wait what do you mean by switching sides? Are you suggesting they are funding Taliban?
Yes I am, I dont understand how a rag tag group can continue to fight an insurgency and take on a state for ten years running.
You will never understand, its the people like you and shia and ahmedis, and sufis and moderate sunnis that are the real enemies of Pakistan and Islam and they must be all punished
Well then dont whine about the army operation then, Pakistan army will ensure that such day never comes when Taliban turn it into another Kabul football stadium or the Swat khuni chowk. its your narrow mindset and secterian hatred that is feeding the terrorists.
But Pakistan army is meant to protect its people not fight them
.with cobras and tanks and guns
Hold on right there
do you see Pak army attacking ordinary civilians in the city? In shops, schools and mosques?
What is this? dont you consider tribal areas to be Part of Pakistan too?
Yes indeed and thats why its necessary to wresstle that place off from the terrorists, just like Karachi from its gangs and mafia.
but army is attacking its own people
.dont you consider the tribes as human and Pakistanis ?
Indeed I do, but its the Taliban who are ambushing conveys of people, abducting children and blowing up tribal elders and blowing up mosques in the tribal belt. you dont consider these killed as tribesmen?
But army is attacking too
Yea but where? Most of its fight is the Waziristan badlands not the settlements. And the ones that it is attacking are those who are armed and are plotting attacks on the Pakistanis hiding in the mountains and caves and forests
Yea yea but look what your WoT is doing to people of Pakistan.. Thousands wont have died in the city and I only blame Pakistan army , ISI and Musharraf for that.
So you dont blame Taliban for spilling the blood of the Pakistanis? What guarantee do you have that sooner or later they wont have made the whole Pakistan like Afghanistan or Swat? There was no operation there but still ordinary people and civil servants were being beheaded despite the peace deal.
I dont need to listen to the liberal who is influenced by the west. I will never blame Taliban.
Wow even if they plan an attack near where you live?
They only attack where there are weaker faith Muslims or the traitors of Islam. I know they will never harm me
I hope Taliban also know what you are thinking become they attack near you