Pak survived after 26/11 due to nukes: Expert

[ajpirzada]

Saturday May 30, 2009, Islamabad

Without atomic weapons, Pakistan would have not "survived" after Kargil war, Parliament attack and Mumbai terror strikes, the country's top nuclear scientist said on Saturday.

"Some people who talk about the high expenses of nuclear programme, do not know the importance of nuclear capability," Dr Samar Mubarakmand, Member Science and Technology, Planning Commission of Pakistan, said.

"Without nuclear power, Pakistan would have not survived after Kargil, Indian Parliament and Mumbai incident episodes," he said addressing the fourth Convocation of the Institute of Space Technology (IST) in Islamabad.

He also said Pakistan has sufficient skilled work-force to launch its own satellite system and hopefully the country would be able to launch indigenously built Pak-SAT-I in 2011.

Later, talking to media, Mubarakmand brushed aside the impression of any threat to Pakistan' nuclear assets and said these were fully protected under an effective command and control system.

"Such speculations are totally wrong and baseless. Some elements have been raising such things in the past too, just to pressurise Pakistan in a specific time," he said.

To a question, he said nobody should have any objection if any country helps Pakistan in its nuclear programme for peaceful objectives like promotion of energy, agriculture and health sectors.

Pak survived after 26/11 due to nukes: Expert

 

[pakomar]

Pakistan did survive because of nuclear weapons. Nukes are kept to insure a country freedom. Countries never use it. We have example of Iraq if Israel did n t destroyed Iraq nuclear sit in 80s we would see different Iraq (a free one)

 

[IceCold]

I disagree with him. Pakistan armed forces are fully capable to defend the mother land with or without the nuclear play card. The readiness of the PAF and the way they locked on to incoming Indian intruders after 26/11 should be enough to clear the mind of any one who think other wise. Indian cold start doctrine is based on the fact not to prolong any conflict that would lead to a nuclear exchange and this is exactly what we Pakistanis keep in mind. There was a time during NS era that we solely relied on nuclear shield but all that changed during Musharraf era and we now are conventionally strong enough to deter any threat without going nuclear.

 

[ajpirzada]

nukes act as a psychological threat. otherwise our armed forces were fully prepared to deal with indian forces. proof of this is the report which came out in india few months back tellin us how prepared were the indian forces to deal with pakistani forces.
but there has always been a broad support in india for a war with pakistan (after incidents lik 2001 and now mumbai). at this point our nukes and missile programe do play a significant role in soothin the opposite side

 

[Sargodhian_Eagle]

Dr. has made a little mistake. I think India has survived due to Pak nukes coz if india attacked the Pakistan then India's clean sweap was clear.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Dr. has made a little mistake. I think India has survived due to Pak nukes coz if india attacked the Pakistan then India's clean sweap was clear.

Hmm; would have been mutually assured destruction in that scenario

 

[pakomar]

I disagree with him. Pakistan armed forces are fully capable to defend the mother land with or without the nuclear play card. The readiness of the PAF and the way they locked on to incoming Indian intruders after 26/11 should be enough to clear the mind of any one who think other wise. Indian cold start doctrine is based on the fact not to prolong any conflict that would lead to a nuclear exchange and this is exactly what we Pakistanis keep in mind. There was a time during NS era that we solely relied on nuclear shield but all that changed during Musharraf era and we now are conventionally strong enough to deter any threat without going nuclear.

No dough about Pakistan defense capability. Indian always prude of they have something Pakistan do n t have but now Pakistani nukes put locks on Indians mouth.

 

[insas91]

I disagree with him. Pakistan armed forces are fully capable to defend the mother land with or without the nuclear play card. The readiness of the PAF and the way they locked on to incoming Indian intruders after 26/11 should be enough to clear the mind of any one who think other wise. Indian cold start doctrine is based on the fact not to prolong any conflict that would lead to a nuclear exchange and this is exactly what we Pakistanis keep in mind. There was a time during NS era that we solely relied on nuclear shield but all that changed during Musharraf era and we now are conventionally strong enough to deter any threat without going nuclear.

Patriotic mumbo-jumbo. No doubt Pakistani Armed are among the most professional, but do they stand a conventioal might against India? Hardly. The statistics speak for themselves. If only you would come out of the patriotic nut. It were nukes that you seeked since the times of Zia-ul-Haq, which according to Paksitan military was the only answer to India's conventional might.

Let us not forget the huge propaganda started in you r media of a potential conflict. And fanatics like Zaid Hamid, taking the all the TRP's since they appealed to 160 million in Pakistan even on the first day of the Mumbai attacks. Noone of our minister threatened war. But you had Gilani, Zardari, Qureshi, Musharraf, all saying on day one that we will use 'all weapons at our disposal". Reiterated later by your army chief. So in all it is true Pakistan relies heavily on its nukes to defend itself. No point denying it.

As far as incursion is concered that was again a cooked up news.
What makes you think India will send to loaded Sukhoi's in full light, with no defenders, and they will return back on seeing PAF jets? If India wanted to carry out strikes it would have. This sort juvenile piece of crap is best spoken and believed where it originated, that is in Pakistan.
Just like the one where "Mukherjee called Zardari from the defence ministry(mark it..lol) and threatened war". That is something that cracks me up even today.

 

[paritosh]

I believe that no one was going to attack Pakistan after the mumbai attack...there is no room for a knee-jerk reaction....we did the right thing by going through the tedious judicious and diplomatic process.
the war threats that were coming from India...were as i see...empty...maybe to just get Islamabad to take the issue up seriously.

as far as the nukes are concerned...I think as long as they are safe and within responsible hands..they'd do good for both the countries.
the only scenario that gets us worried is the Taliban getting hold of the nukes...which i have a reason to believe now is not happening anytime soon.

 

[pakomar]

nukes are safe

 

[Jihad]

Patriotic mumbo-jumbo. No doubt Pakistani Armed are among the most professional, but do they stand a conventioal might against India? Hardly. The statistics speak for themselves. If only you would come out of the patriotic nut. It were nukes that you seeked since the times of Zia-ul-Haq, which according to Paksitan military was the only answer to India's conventional might.

Let us not forget the huge propaganda started in you r media of a potential conflict. And fanatics like Zaid Hamid, taking the all the TRP's since they appealed to 160 million in Pakistan even on the first day of the Mumbai attacks. Noone of our minister threatened war. But you had Gilani, Zardari, Qureshi, Musharraf, all saying on day one that we will use 'all weapons at our disposal". Reiterated later by your army chief. So in all it is true Pakistan relies heavily on its nukes to defend itself. No point denying it.

As far as incursion is concered that was again a cooked up news.
What makes you think India will send to loaded Sukhoi's in full light, with no defenders, and they will return back on seeing PAF jets? If India wanted to carry out strikes it would have. This sort juvenile piece of crap is best spoken and believed where it originated, that is in Pakistan.
Just like the one where "Mukherjee called Zardari from the defence ministry(mark it..lol) and threatened war". That is something that cracks me up even today.

Hold it now, johnnyboy, you're no different either on this case.
Don't be too patriotic either, afterall, you're just an Indian.
The question remains why India didn't attack, and the answer for me and for the rest of Pakistan is simple: they didn't have the guts nor this overwhelming power you're talking about, period.

 

[third eye]

Hold it now, johnnyboy, you're no different either on this case.
Don't be too patriotic either, afterall, you're just an Indian.
The question remains why India didn't attack, and the answer for me and for the rest of Pakistan is simple: they didn't have the guts nor this overwhelming power you're talking about, period.

Unless provoked to a point of no return or an ir -redeemable situation, an attack upon Pk would be very very ill advised.

Coz, in so doing all the factions within Pk would unite !! India would achieve more by not striking than by striking.. & at a lesser cost.

Things are going fine.. & if it is thought that the nukes are the reason, No problem. 1st, 2nd, 3rd .. any strike capability is ok..

 

[MadDog]

@ insas91

Dude....Pak and indian forces...if u check the ratio its 1:2..how can u say they r not conventialy comparable.....it is said...for being in a defensive position one needs to ve a 3:1 difference...but incase of pa-india its 2:1...so it isnt a big difference....i dont agree with u on this

 

[Munir]

I think it was India with mumbojumbo talk... They were already knocking at Pakistani doors without able to finish a few attackers. It was laughable how they handled it so the professionality seems to be something to be discussed. Then the blaiming and going for kill in Pakistan. Even pre-emptive attacks... The hostility was topping when they launched several planes to show how big they are and all Pakistan did was stopping them and telling the world that the next time they would not be able to return... Seems to be a pretty nice way to handle it compared to the patheric childish display of the Indians... And it wasn't the only time that Indians had to retreat... They were massing their army to the border. And did they win? Nopes. Now they would probably go for the same big mouth after getting AWACS. I bet they cannot handle any big item without acting like a cheap bollywood movie... And always with importing weapons cause who can win a war with Indian weapons? Sri Lanka (which was terrorized by Indian Tamils) did switch to reliable China and Pakistani weapons. Only then it finished the tamil terrorists which already terrorized India by killing Rajeev Ghandi... And Sikhs killed his mother. Sounds like a banana republic to me...

Reading Indian reaction is making me a bit worried that their long term memory is a bit fragile. Nationalism is more a weak way to try to blaim others. If it wasn't ISrael who helped them with LGB's they would still hide for bullets. Without using Pakistani airforce the Pakistani handled 5 times bigger enemy. Whether they like it or not. Pakistan is there and will move forward. Unfortunaltey it has stupid politicians otherwise it would be doing it better... And it is something to be discussed whether India is doing better. It is just walking on thin IT sector. It has huge internal market and does not export something really impressiv eif compared to other nations of its size... No wonder they want to dominate smaller nations like Sri Lanka or Bangla desh...

We are nice cause we allow Indians to post and even behave like rats.

 

[paritosh]

@munir...
they could have been more professional...but when an entire pakistani police academy was taken hiostage by 20 terrorists...that was laughable.
i mean nobody attacks a Police academy!!!
burning a police post or depot is something commonplace...but you really have to have a very low respect quotient for the police to attack an academy.