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Pak may use F-16s against India

Check the number if terror attacks and loss of life (both of civilians and security forces) due to terror in Kashmir before and after 2002, and you will know how much India earned.
How much money India earned from Military stand off? You were throwing economic loss figures about Pakistan........... how much money India consumed in 2002 Stand off? I remember 4.1 Billion $ ................... four times of Pakistan loss.

The why did you quote the figure of 780 casualties?
Ofcourse its new for you.
You were in perhaps in liquid form when those soldiers were getting packed in wooden boxes of three color band pattern................ cheep lives, cheap deaths.............
here
India suffered 1,874 casualties without fighting a war - The Times of India
Op Parakram claimed 798 soldiers - The Times of India
Please do some research before posting.
Welcome to PDF kid........................
 
And India is in no way responsible for the miserable condition Pakistan is in right now, where begging for foreign aid has become the second best religion in Pakistan, after 'denial'.
Begging aid? Sir, where are you getting this information from? We receive aid because we have so-far been then most effective fighting force against terrorism and this aid is 1/3 of the aid that India receives. The US received a lot of aid during Hurricanes and other disasters, does that make them inferior to your supa powa? Aid makes up less than 0.1% of our earnings and economy.

YouTube only shows videos which are uploaded there.

For this three basic conditions should be fulfilled.
1.) The uploader should be literate enough to understand the net.
2.) The uploader should have internet access.
3.) YouTube should not be banned in the country where the uploader lives.

Considering all the above facts, its hardly a surprise not much videos are available from Pakistan.
1: We have a 80% youth literacy rate
2: Around 50 million Pakistanis regularly use the internet
3: Youtube is no longer banned in Pakistan

Conclusion: Indian obsession far outranks Pakistanis concern for Pakistan.

So sad :(

Yes, we give news on every stupidity about India.
But do you know about your people.
Not because of obsession but because hate spewing jihadi sites.
What....? :crazy:

And they are humorous, not claiming superiority over you (we don't even need to prove superiority by the way. :D)
Please, first get on the level of rural Ethiopia before you try to even say the word 'superior' - a country which has 683 million people who defecate in the open, who's holiest sites are polluted with filth and human feces, the country with the most people in poverty, the country with the most people suffering from malnutrition and hygiene caused disease. This isnt a Bollywood movie, wake up to reality.
They have made several terrorist websites to spew entire $hit against India and show us like a brutal occupier. Funny thing is that they were claiming to be Kashmiri. So, when I tried to talk them in Kashmiri language, they could not.
Finally they blocked me.
Yes and the 90% Kashmiris (66% overall for J&K) opting for Azadi are all smuggled ISI terrorist spies. Stop this BS.
 
SOURCE: DHNS

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The US’s proposed sale of eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan has understandably raised concern in India. The Barack Obama administration claims that the sale of the jets is to “enhance Pakistan’s ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counterterrorism operations.”

This is a disingenuous explanation. F-16s are not the best aircraft to be used in counter-insurgency situations. They are more suitable for use in conventional war. The supply of F-16s to Pakistan will only embolden its military to indulge in provocative, indeed reckless behaviour vis-à-vis India. This has been the experience over the last seven decades. Washington’s supply of combat aircraft to Pakistan in the Cold War years was ostensibly meant to fight Communism but Pakistan used it in its wars against India. The US is well aware of it. Yet it is keen to sell the F-16s to Pakistan, not bothering about its negative impact on India-Pakistan relations or even Pakistan’s domestic politics for that matter. Supply of aid and equipment to the military has in the past tilted the military-civilian balance in Pakistan in favour of the military. At a time when Pakistan’s fragile democratic institutions are struggling to break free of military pressure, it is unfortunate that the Barack Obama administration is weighing in on the side of the generals.

It is likely that the US is selling the F-16s to Pakistan to get its military’s support in fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. That is, the jets are to ensure good behaviour on the part of the Pakistani generals. But this has never worked in the past. Has the US forgotten that its $3,6 billion military aid to Pakistan in the 1980s, which the then American president Ronald Reagan justified as necessary to dissuade Pakistan from acquiring nuclear weapons, failed in this objective?

The Obama administration’s decision to supply F-16s to Pakistan will need the nod of the US Congress. It is likely to sell the $700 million deal to Congressmen as one that will generate jobs for Americans and also help the US achieve its counter-terrorism objectives in Pakistan. India must use its influence to draw the attention of Congressmen to the sale’s destructive impact. Should the deal be sealed, it will not only undermine South Asian regional security but also have dangerous implications for the rest of the world. An empowered Pakistan military will feel emboldened to incite trouble. It could deepen its support to terrorist groups. This would defeat the US’s objectives in Afghanistan. Obama must call off the sale of the F-16s to Pakistan.

This is like saying India will use the Sukhoi against Pak.

I mean if they have it and a war breaks out.... why wouldn't they use it. What BS article.
 
Begging aid? Sir, where are you getting this information from? We receive aid because we have so-far been then most effective fighting force against terrorism
Never forget that this effective country is also originator of terrorism too. :azn:
and this aid is 1/3 of the aid that India receives.
Don't lie. :nono: Check real figures.
Moreover,
Indian Government doesn't get any aid.
This aid is given to NGOs(Non Government Organizations who actually is a bunch of corrupt activists) by British morons so that they can sleep comfortably thinking that they are funding India's development, defense, space and scientific program and a third world country can't do better than them without their aid(despite of fact that India has a budget of 600billions+)
and we are a net donator of aid. pakistan is net recipient.
1: We have a 80% youth literacy rate
We have 93%. :D
2: Around 50 million Pakistanis regularly use the internet
Don't lie. :nono: You have 30 millions.
We have 402 million by the way. You can calculate percentage as well because you were better in past. :D
By 2018, we will have 580 millions closer to China.
3: Youtube is no longer banned in Pakistan
Congratulations.
That is the reason why those ghazwa e hindi videos and propaganda videos on Kashmir are increasing.
Conclusion: Indian obsession far outranks Pakistanis concern for Pakistan.
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uploading ghazi videos on internet isn't obsession.
Always cramming Indian Poverty and leaving all other development indicators where pakistan is worst than Africans isn't obsession.
When Indians are talking to Chinese, butting in.
There are more pakii members on Chinese side than Chinese themselves.
pakiis keep cramming India's shortcomings against China even if they stand nowhere in league is also not any obsession.
Building dozens of anti India sites isn't any obsession.
Whenever there's any accident in India, pakistani members shamelessly dance over death tolls(yet it is much smaller than pak always),
For every failure, pakiis shamelessly claim their missile tech better than India's, yet on success, they aren't seen anywhere, but this is also not obsession.

But when any Indian gets irritated and responds he will be called obsessed.
pak is nothing more than a mentally disturbed child just trying get Indian attention. and whenever Indians give attention they are called obsessed.
What....? :crazy:
Natak ni bachhu. :nono: It's true.
before you try to even say the word 'superior' - a country which has 683 million people who defecate in the open, who's holiest sites are polluted with filth and human feces,
Ooh 683 millions? really? o_O
We had reduced it to 602 millions last year and then, reduced by 31%. Faster than any other country in the world.
India reduces open defecation by 31%: UN report

We will reduce it to 5% by 2022 when you will have 15%. But even then, you gonna call us $hithole. :D
the country with the most people in poverty,
Again in numbers and not percentage.
We are eliminating it fastly though. :D

India’s Poverty Rate Falls To 12.4%, Electricity Plays Big Role | IndiaSpend

the country with the most people suffering from malnutrition and hygiene caused disease.
‘Malnourishment declined sharply among children in India’: The Hindu - Mobile edition
We will have much better than your country in next 3-4 years but you'll call that fake.
This isnt a Bollywood movie, wake up to reality.
This isn't 1980s when India was a $hithole.
Our GDP per capita and almost all development indicators are better than yours.
And now gap is expanding.
Please, first get on the level of rural Ethiopia
Rural Ethiopia? :woot:
What do you mean?
Rural India was like average Ethiopia some years ago. Now,
Ethiopia receives aid from India.
Stop exaggerating. :lol:

I guess you'll only cite of poverty because your country has only slightly better poverty ratio(8.3% against India's 12.4%) and worst than Africans in remaining cases (both in percentage and numbers).
Did you talk of GDP per capita? HDI? Telecommunications? Life Expectancy?
You must think if Bangladesh was your part today, and no refugees had migrated to India (I gonna leave the fact that pakis still migrate to India. Alone, 92000 migrated here last year.), you would be worst. India has highest poor population in numbers, you would have both in numbers and percentage.
You were far ahead in almost everything in 1947 and what happened after that.
In 2022, India's HDI will be in Highly Developed category. Our GDP per capita will become your double.
We will have overtaken you in poverty ratio and open defecation too.


Then, you will cry of
income inequality in India (it will remain because India is a capitalist economy )
racism (yet your country has no diversity but still much racist).
Yes and the 90% Kashmiris (66% overall for J&K) opting for Azadi are all smuggled ISI terrorist spies. Stop this BS.
90%? :woot:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
70% people voted in local elections. A bunch of idiots doesn't represent whole Kashmir. Many times people are forced to say anything by these separatists.
That is why Kashmir is still our part. Majority still support us and And J&K is much better than P-o-K where people live in inhumane conditions.
Moreover, according to you ,
India is supporting terrorism in Baluchistan but pak is supporting some sort of freedom movement in India
According to you, if there's any terror attack in pak, it is terrorism but if so happens in India, its a freedom movement.
Matlab iska? :partay:
Tum karo toh pyaar, hum karein toh tumhatra balatkar?

:omghaha:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
By the way, I love your obsession logic:
pakistanis keep irritating Indians but Indians ignore them 4 times.
And when they respond with a befitting reply when you guys cross your limits, Indians are obsessed with you

Yaani ke, chit bhi meri aur pat bhi meri. :D stop musing with riaz haq.

You guys are really interesting people.
Even when we ignore you, you try your best to get our attention and when we start troll wars, you guys make us Islamophobic and pakobessed etc. etc. . :enjoy:

Thank God these people got apart from us in 1947.
 
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WTF may ? when we have face scramble call from indian side of border we will send super mashaq as ADA ?:rofl:
 
Well BRo....Same Kind..........Sukhoi......MIG not such a difference....Any way thnx for correction.....!!!!!
Come on guys, credit should be given where it's due, Indian SU-30 is an ice breaker, recently it achieved it's first kill.....by shooting down a balloon. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Come on guys, credit should be given where it's due, Indian SU-30 is an ice breaker, recently it achieved it's first kill.....by shooting down a balloon. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
Nice achievement.........Well Done India..........:p::p::p::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
 
Gentlemen please do not find this post offensive or anything, this is just my (pathetic or decent)idea that Pakistan Army should save money for Eurofighter Typhoon as it is one of the best fighter in dogfight and BVR combat, it is extremely agile and it has very powerful engines which allow it to supercruise. It has very advanced electronic warfare (EW) suite, great weapons and PIRATE IRST. In the future it would have AESA radar and thrust vectoring. We have a good relationship with UK plus eurofighter is looking for customers. Su-35 is also a great option as it is much cheaper than typhoon, it has three dimensional thrust vectoring , it has great weapons and great avionics and great aerodynamics. It has a much more powerful engine as compare to other flankers plus it is also great fighter in terms of dogfight and BVR combat but it still has very expensive maintenance. J-31 is under development so gentlemen what are your thoughts on this?
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Gentlemen please do not find this post offensive or anything, this is just my (pathetic or decent)idea that Pakistan Army should save money for Eurofighter Typhoon as it is one of the best fighter in dogfight and BVR combat, it is extremely agile and it has very powerful engines which allow it to supercruise. It has very advanced electronic warfare (EW) suite, great weapons and PIRATE IRST. In the future it would have AESA radar and thrust vectoring. We have a good relationship with UK plus eurofighter is looking for customers. Su-35 is also a great option as it is much cheaper than typhoon, it has three dimensional thrust vectoring , it has great weapons and great avionics and great aerodynamics. It has a much more powerful engine as compare to other flankers plus it is also great fighter in terms of dogfight and BVR combat but it still has very expensive maintenance. J-31 is under development so gentlemen what are your thoughts on this?

Dear... Such options are discussed to death by all senior members including tagged ones except deal to be announced by PAF so while considering the platform, budget constrains be kept in mind including expenses at home etc. EFT is too costly and Russians are not very reliable business partners as looks at the S-400, FGFA etc deals with India as well as supply history. PAF is surely not in hurry as no Rafale is coming in neighbor very soon so current equation including F-16s, JFT with advance tech in upcoming block hopefully and FC-31 in future seems feasible.
 
We will use f16 against india no doubt about that -
 
Dear... Such options are discussed to death by all senior members including tagged ones except deal to be announced by PAF so while considering the platform, budget constrains be kept in mind including expenses at home etc. EFT is too costly and Russians are not very reliable business partners as looks at the S-400, FGFA etc deals with India as well as supply history. PAF is surely not in hurry as no Rafale is coming in neighbor very soon so current equation including F-16s, JFT with advance tech in upcoming block hopefully and FC-31 in future seems feasible.
Sir for air superiority we use F-16s, JF-17 block 3 could be used for air superiority and as for J-31 it won't be used for air superiority so don't you think we need a 4++ generation air superiority fighter. I know typhoon is very expensive but the money that we will earn from exporting our military equipment plus our military budget we can buy typhoon in small numbers and eventually we will be able to complete a squadron of typhoon. We won't be in a hurry to complete a squadron so what do think sir?
 

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