Pak may never try another Kargil, but it could get worse

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

In Pakistan we use inners for protection against weather-
btw how pajama suppose to protects one from weather?-

You"ll have to inspect those pyjamas.

 

[batmannow]

Pakistani troops are tied down battling the Taliban and are in no position to launch an offensive strike on India.

Kargil was a brilliant strategic idea but poorly executed.

Pakistan could have won Kargil if it backed its forces in Kargil with heavy weaponry such as Machine Guns and AA Batteries and Anti-Air Missiles, more troops, and better logistics and planting land mines which would have taken a heavy toll on Indian troops.

we did it all at that time friend just check how many IAF JETS were shot down, but ganja ran away, to white house !
he could hve waited, & had supported us on foreign affairs, that would hve won us wonders, but instead he went to become, khalifa-e-alla with the help from USA?

 

[illusion8]

so i will believe whats on an indian site to see what PA wears?-

I said it was not from an Indian site and those were PA regulars.

 

[INDIC]

cm on man- dont talk like a child- i told you its not SOP- you know SOP?-

It seems you don't want to believe things and trying to divert. First your soldiers occupied peaks and shot down two aircrafts, during first days of war they seemed confident that India can do nothing.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Pakistan's Kargil Operation was in the works since the 1980's.

What happened was in 1984, India captured the top part of Siachin Glacier after ISI goofed up and placed a large order of Arctic Weather Gear with the same British Company that supplied the Indian Army with its gear. The Indians were easily alerted to the large Pakistani Order and captured the Glacier before Pakistan.

So in order to punish India, Pakistani Generals produced the Kargil Operation in 1987 to cut off Indian supply lines to the Glacier but it was put on hold. Again it was presented in 1995 and it was shelved by Bhutto. And then finally Musharraf greenlighted the attack.

What Pakistan failed to calculate is the Global response was totally on India's side. Even China did not support Pakistan's adventure in Kargil.

So don't think another Kargil like operation will occur.

Maybe Pakistan might use Bangladeshi proxies to create havoc in Eastern India.

I dont know why you all blame your Politicians , actually they saved your Army from embarrassment, when peace was signed, PAk

The Indian Navy also prepared to blockade the Pakistani ports (primarily Karachi port)[49] to cut off supply routes.[50] Later, the then-Prime Minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif disclosed that Pakistan was left with just six days of fuel to sustain itself if a full-fledged war had broken out.

The Indian Army's first priority was to recapture peaks that were in the immediate vicinity of NH 1D. This resulted in Indian troops first targeting the Tiger Hill and Tololing complex in Dras, which dominated the Srinagar-Leh route. This was soon followed by the Batalik-Turtok sub-sector which provided access to Siachen Glacier. Some of the peaks that were of vital strategic importance to the Pakistani defensive troops were Point 4590 and Point 5353. While 4590 was the nearest point that had a view of NH 1D, point 5353 was the highest feature in the Dras sector, allowing the Pakistani troops to observe NH 1D.The recapture of Point 4590 by Indian troops on June 14

Though most of the posts in the vicinity of the highway were cleared by mid-June,

The Battle of Tololing, among other assaults, slowly tilted the combat in India's favor. The Pakistani troops at Tololing were aided by Pakistani fighters from Kashmir. Some of the posts put up a stiff resistance, including Tiger Hill (Point 5140) that fell only later in the war.

Two months into the conflict, Indian troops had slowly retaken most of the ridges that were encroached by the infiltrator according to official count, an estimated 75%–80% of the intruded area and nearly all high ground was back under Indian control.

Therefore if PAK dose not surrender , then also India take entire area from PAK Army in one more month time. and after 6 days pak are already run out of fuel.

 

[batmannow]

Check on India's deployment and you can assess the seriousness at that time. India was willing to take it up a lot of notches, was one of the primary reasons for your withdrawal as well because Pk was on the wrong here.

sory, there is a old saying, every thing is fair in love & war?
kargill, happened after a long time & just because your forces did wrong in kashmir?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I doubt it..it just would have been a repeat of 65 ..India was committed to get its territory back..even if it would meant opening a second front.
Plus Pakistan soldiers wouldn't survive there without an air cover..their logistic were already under severe duress due ..aerial and artillery bombardment.

Doubt would have been like 65.........In 65 Pakistan had better airforce and tanks.

This time their airforce didn't have BVR also the navy was not ready .

Of course, it would"ve taken long for India to mobilize.

 

[INDIC]

In Pakistan we use inners for protection against weather-
btw how pajama suppose to protects one from weather?-

It was summer time.

 

[ashokdeiva]

we did it all at that time friend just check how many IAF JETS were shot down, but ganja ran away, to white house !
he could hve waited, & had supported us on foreign affairs, that would hve won us wonders, but instead he went to become, khalifa-e-alla with the help from USA?

still proud of starting an unnecessary war that resulted in countless loss of life on both sides.
one says it was a briliant idea, other says we would have won. But non of the Pakistani friends feel that was unnecessary to have ignited the war in the first place. GOD know when you guys are going to realize that wars and hate bring destruction to you and others sorrounding you.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

we did it all at that time friend just check how many IAF JETS were shot down, but ganja ran away, to white house !
he could hve waited, & had supported us on foreign affairs, that would hve won us wonders, but instead he went to become, khalifa-e-alla with the help from USA?

Well yoru PAF stop flying its f-16 after Mirages and MIG-29 are put in sky , and your fuel was remain for 6 days.

 

[illusion8]

sory, there is a old saying, every thing is fair in love & war?
kargill, happened after a long time & just because your forces did wrong in kashmir?

I believe it was more as a backlash to Siachen rather than Kashmir and I agree Pakistan had this strategy planned for a very long time.

 

[JonAsad]

It seems you don't want to believe things and trying to divert. First your soldiers occupied peaks and shot down two aircrafts, during first days of war they seemed confident that India can do nothing.

where the talk about sleeping in pajams go?-
are you out of silly justifications?-

It was summer time.

lol- seems like- not yet-
in summer time- the pajams were helping to vent air to some vitals organs then- No?-
- they were there to fight not rape- -

 

[ares]

Doubt would have been like 65.........In 65 Pakistan had better airforce and tanks.

This time their airforce didn't have BVR also the navy was not ready .

Of course, it would"ve taken long for India to mobilize.

Well you are right..my comparison was in rgrds too the 'Indian response" in 65 ie prolonged delays in recapturing Kargil peaks would have led India to opening a second front to achieve similar gains in Pakistani territory to arrive at a bargaining position vis-a-vis Kargil heights.

 

[Paan Singh]

Kargil was done to avenge siachin but it taught a lesson to indian armed forces.Nawaj sharif knew plan made by mushi but when international community found paksitan guilty then nawaj sharif had to answer them and he had to go U.S to resolve it coz india used diplomacy very well and expose pakistanis while remaining inside LOC.Pakistanis were embarassed coz they earlier called those NLI soldiers as kashmiri mujahids but later on had to accept their own soldiers..

i will say kargil changed the doctrine of indian armed forces.From then,india started to think about bringing reinforcements in less time as possible.

 

[Xracer]

Well yoru PAF stop flying its f-16 after Mirages and MIG-29 are put in sky , and your fuel was remain for 6 days.

Well that cant be happened now a days dont forget Gwadar Port and Fuel From Iran Side