PAK-FA takes to the sky!

[Myth_buster_1]

Well TBH you cant say anything yet about this fighter...its just the first prototype. If you wanna see how Russian aircrafts change from prototype to production variants just check out the development of the T 10 to the SU 27. One cant say jack about the aircraft until it is out in the open. There are a lot of things which you need before giving an analysis of the aircraft. Yes the Engine nozzles are huge I agree but more design changes will be made. The aircraft looks more like a cross between the YF 22 and YF 23 to me. So I would rather wait for all the flight charecteristics to be known before making comments.

Oh god not this bullcr2p again! either indians have habit of not reading or they are just too deluded.
If indians are expecting huge structural changes on this prototype like that of YF-22 and F-22 then expect another 17 years until a final variant is in service with IAF. YF-22 flew in 91 F-22 in 97 and after 10 years did the F-22 cleared FOC in USAF. DO indian seriously expect a significant structural change like YF-22 F-22?

 

[garibnawaz]

And when are where are these tests conducted?

any reference.

The Al-41F program was launched in 1985, and the first protoype engine flew in a Tu-16 Badger testbed in 1990. Prototype engines delivered 39,600 lbf (176 kN) of wet thrust, with 45,000 lbf (200 kN) a design target for the engine. Originally developed for the Mikoyan Project 1.44, the engine was built around the geometry of the AL-31F, making it compatible with existing airframes, including the Sukhoi Su-27 series. The engine is reported to have recently entered low rate initial production for use in the Su-34 Fullback.




Official Website of NPO Saturn who makes this engine.

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It is also available in English. Click the below link.

http://www.npo-saturn.ru/?slang=1

GB

 

[Tiger Awan]

Same thing again and again.

The engine pics show that there is no thing like stealth in these engines. Having 2 such engines and thinking of stealth? Please wait for at least 10 years.

 

[Dark Angel]

Oh god not this bullcr2p again! either indians have habit of not reading or they are just too deluded.
If indians are expecting huge structural changes on this prototype like that of YF-22 and F-22 then expect another 17 years until a final variant is in service with IAF. YF-22 flew in 91 F-22 in 97 and after 10 years did the F-22 cleared FOC in USAF. DO indian seriously expect a significant structural change like YF-22 F-22?

Americans have a diffrent way of doing things than Russians and vice versa so pls dont make ur own theories the Pakfa will start induction in 2015 and fgfa in 2017

Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said he expected the FGFA aircraft to be very competitive in international markets because its price would be significantly lower than that of the American rivals.

“I think by definition this aircraft will be able to occupy up to one-third of the market,” the analyst said.Sukhoi head Mikhail Pogosyan voiced confidence that the FGFA will beat the U.S. F-22 and F-35 fifth-generation fighters in cost-effectiveness.

According to designers, the FGFA will be a truly stealth plane almost invisible to enemy radars: it will be 40 times harder to detect than the Su-30MKI

India will be responsible for supplying the plane’s navigation systems, mission computer, cockpit displays and will provide composites for the airframe. While the Russian Air Force has opted for a single-seater, the IAF will get a modified two-seater derivative

The Russian Air Force is expected to begin inducting the new aircraft in 2015. The twin-seat version for the IAF may be ready two years later. Each side plans to acquire 250 planes

 

[garibnawaz]

Same thing again and again.

The engine pics show that there is no thing like stealth in these engines. Having 2 such engines and thinking of stealth? Please wait for at least 10 years.

Its just the first flight.

Many more developments are yet to happen.

Why not wait and watch?

GB

 

[Dark Angel]

Same thing again and again.

The engine pics show that there is no thing like stealth in these engines. Having 2 such engines and thinking of stealth? Please wait for at least 10 years.

Ah man why didnt u say this earlier it would have saved us so much time

 

[Tiger Awan]

Its just the first flight.

Many more developments are yet to happen.

Why not wait and watch?

GB

O thanks God. At last we have decided to WAIT

So what is your idea? How much time will be taken to develop some deadly stealth features in this project.

 

[garibnawaz]

O thanks God. At last we have decided to WAIT

So what is your idea? How much time will be taken to develop some deadly stealth features in this project.

2015 is when the Russian version will be inducted and 2017 is when the Indian FGFA will be ready.

No aircraft is upto its mark in its first flight.

Even for JF-17 PAF had a long wait with approval of RD-93 engine.

GB

 

[hindustan]

really a first flight and see face of all pakistani

but our real strenght is not planes and wepaons our strenght is

our bigeest democracy
our brotherhood H+m+s+I
our love for each other
we have so many languages and regions which is the best example in the world


so pakistani should understand the main thing wepaons cant win any war its human win any fight



best of luck

 

[Tiger Awan]

2015 is when the Russian version will be inducted and 2017 is when the Indian FGFA will be ready.

No aircraft is upto its mark in its first flight.

Even for JF-17 PAF had a long wait with approval of RD-93 engine.

GB

JF-17 did not went through major changes.

T-50 needs many!!! Are you thinking of inducting 4+ generation aircraft in 2017

 

[Dark Angel]

JF-17 did not went through major changes.

T-50 needs many!!! Are you thinking of inducting 4+ generation aircraft in 2017

Bang on mate we are inducting a 4+ generation aircraft according to chinese

 

[Tiger Awan]

Bang on mate we are inducting a 4+ generation aircraft according to chinese

Excellent way of Satisfaction!

 

[garibnawaz]

JF-17 did not went through major changes.

I think you were talking about Engine. Now since that is boomranged you are talking something else now?

What major changes of PAK-FA you are talking about?

T-50 needs many!!! Are you thinking of inducting 4+ generation aircraft in 2017

Everyone including Americans and Chinese say its Fifth Generation Aircraft.

GB

 

[garibnawaz]

really a first flight and see face of all pakistani

but our real strenght is not planes and wepaons our strenght is

our bigeest democracy
our brotherhood H+m+s+I
our love for each other
we have so many languages and regions which is the best example in the world


so pakistani should understand the main thing wepaons cant win any war its human win any fight



best of luck

Totally useless, not releated and hence not necessary.

GB

 

[beckham]

JF-17 did not went through major changes.

T-50 needs many!!! Are you thinking of inducting 4+ generation aircraft in 2017

It took Su-30mki almost 4-5 different prototypes before final variant.Same might be the case with PAK-FA, this is just the first prototype and could vary from the final one.