I don't believe in the Ummah pakistan stands alone- the only muslim country I consider a true ally ironically is staunchly secular turkey. Situation is completely different situation NATO has been militarily and economically exhausted by multiple wars and stretched thin Pakistan is much larger and militarily stronger than iraq who was weakened from the iran-iraq war U.S was at the height of it's power during gulf war. They didn't do jack when russia annexed crimea which practically on their doorstep,failed to overthrow syrian government,couldn't stop pakistan from going nuclear nor did they do anything when Iran seized those British sailors lol
Bro we have to stop being pessimistic all the time we can't be afraid of them anymore we have to believe in ourselves .
Things have change alot since 91 - I have always been the one to detach ourselves from the hell that is afghanistan but according to the afghans they say pakistan is already taken over territory by occupying their checkpoints well within afghan territory and NATO has still done nothing they are the ones that rely on us to survive there . NATO and afghan government barely has any control beyond kabul so what chances will they have against pakistan when they can't even secure afghanistan after 16 years ? On top of that they have huge domestic and economic pressures most of the public in the west is against intervention esp in the U.S after multiple invasions and war fatigue- I can guarantee they will not have the domestic or political will to fight pakistan too maybe just place a few sanctions or something which we've gone through before anyway. I am not advocating for occupation of the whole country just the tiny an sparse populated strip if the situation presents itself and the political will is there. China has also refused to open their side of wakhan corridor for afghanistan trade despite them asking so if pakistan conquers it they can overcome this problem.
What kind of fatigue you are talking about?
Do you see Pakistan experiencing fatigue after years of participation in War on Terror?
NATO invaded Afghanistan to dismantle Al-Qaeda network. Taliban-led government was ousted from power because it stood between NATO and Al-Qaeda network.
Now that Al-Qaeda network is done and dusted in Afghanistan and Pakistan, NATO has minimized its footprint accordingly. However, try to attack Kabul and see what happens.
Never underestimate a major military power in the region. And never mistake de-escalation from a conflict for weakness and/or fatigue. NATO can decide to increase its footprint in Afghanistan should the situation demand it.
Nobody is coming for Pakistan but this doesn't implies that we can do whatever we want to and get away with it.
Military operations against terrorists in Afghanistan is need of the hour at present but we have to establish SOPs with NATO or Afghan government for that. I am sure that necessary communications are underway. If you think otherwise, then you don't know how operations are planned and conducted near the border and across the boundary.
which objectives did they achieve ? WOT is generally considered a failure in the west and most people want their troops to come home and stop wasting resources. Afghanistan is still a dangerous and failed state , taliban is still there , afghan government has no writ beyond a few areas and little support among the people , afghan army is still not capable of protecting their country , Iran is more influential than before and NATO lost thousands of troops and wasted trillions in afghanistan with no return lol
Anyway it's just a thought I only support the takeover if the political will is there in case of conflict.
Failure?
War on Terror is different from conventional war. It is not written on the face of someone that he is a terrorist and terrorist factions seem to have no shortage in recruits.
By the same token, Operation Zarb-e-Azb is a failure because terrorist incidents continue to occur in different parts of the country from time-to-time. Think before you write something.
Most pressing concern should be that to what extent this unhealthy jihadi mindset has infililtrated the masses in Afghanistan and Pakistan and who is helping these people.
Most unfortunate is the observation that this war is far from over.
