PAF's Dirty Dozen Made IAF Run Like Headless Chicken

[SIPRA]

...... na jameen jaati hai!!

Mitro: Na koyi ghussa hae, aur na he koyi ghussa hua hae.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

We had only 12 in 65 war and in 71 they were mostly out of service because lack of spares

1965 - there was no comparison..

How can compare with a fighter jet with air to air missile and other missile less aircrafts?

 

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How can compare with a fighter jet with air to air missile and other missile less aircrafts?

Not all PAF Sabres were modified to carry the sidewinders

The Vietnamese MiG-17s gave Sparrow/Sidewinder equipped F-4s a pretty tough time

 

[Akatosh]

at that time speed and altitude was given great importance , the idea was to confront soviet bomber aviation as great priority ...




CIA listed 5 Mig 21 wacked... in 1971

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That includes losses from ground fire (anti aircraft guns).
Only one Mig-21 was lost in aerial combat remaining were to AAA.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Not all PAF Sabres were modified to carry the sidewinders

The Vietnamese MiG-17s gave Sparrow/sidewinder carrying F-4s a tough time

Bhai - war and other things fight mentally/psychology more than physically...

Example - if PAF sabres coming towards then IAF fighter pilots could not that know it was equipped with missiles or without missiles... I would say that indian pilots were brave enough to fight the war against missiles equipped fighter planes.

It was already a win win situation for PAF.. If PAF sabres had missiles and even not then psychology advantage... Because there were no technology available to know that before face to face that sabrse was not equipped with missiles or not..

 

[Tornado23]

Bhai - war and other things fight mentally/psychology more than physically...

Example - if PAF sabres coming towards then IAF fighter pilots could not that it was equipped with missiles or without missiles...

It already a win win situation for PAF.. If PAF sabres had missiles and even not then psychology advantage... Because there were no technology available to know that before face to face that sabrse was not equipped with missiles..

Aren't you the dude that claimed our sabres had NVD or something like that to help them in night combat?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Aren't you the dude that claimed our sabres had NVD or something like that to help them in night combat?

Are you saying that no sabres were equipped with air to air missiles?

 

[SecularNationalist]

an own goal F-6.”

and what does that mean?

 

[Tornado23]

Are you saying that no sabres were equipped with air to air missiles?

Well less than 10% were equipped with aim9b, but thats not my question.

 

[Windjammer]

Pakistani Pilot Describes Downing of an Indian MIG

By Malcolm W. Browne Special to The New York Times
Dec. 15, 1971

AT A FIGHTER BASE, in West Pakistan, Dec. 14 — A jubilant Pakistani pilot landed his Chinese‐built MIG19 fighter here today and described how he had just fired an American‐made Sidewinder missile into an Indian MIG‐21, destroying the enemy aircraft.

Flight Lieut. Amer Ali Sherif had some lines from the Koran invoking the help of Allah taped to his flight suit. Otherwise he could have passed for an American fighter pilot.

The uniform, the mannerisms and even the slang would have seemed at home on an American base.

“There were three of us on ground support duty looking for enemy tanks,” he said. “Suddenly I spotted 10 enemy planes at 12 o'clock, Sukhcn‐7's and MIG‐21's. called the flight leader to break but [turn sharply] and we punched our stores” —that is, jettisoned external fuel tanks.

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[Raj-Hindustani]

Well less than 10% were equipped with aim9b, but thats not my question.

When I claimed that All planes are equipped?.. Read my sentences again...

 

[Windjammer]

When I claimed that All planes are equipped?.. Read my sentences again...

IAF in 1965 had MiG-21s armed with Atol AAMs... although most were destroyed in the Pathankot strike but it had still acquired more during the war.

 

[Tornado23]

When I claimed that All planes are equipped?.. Read my sentences again...

Dude. Im talking about you claiming our sabres were equipped with night vision devices to help them in night combat. Im not talking about air to air missiles

 

[White and Green with M/S]

1965 - there was no comparison..

How can compare with a fighter jet with air to air missile and other missile less aircrafts?

You had have atoll same on your mig 21 on both wars as windy bhai says to you

 

[Bossman]

and what does that mean?

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