PAF F16-Blk70 possibly coming - TO BE CONFIRMED

[Riz]

Here comes the expert.. another tweet from Trump may get back to reality..

Keep waiting for his tweet..

 

[Silicon0000]

Tomorrow I will have a new face and infact better opportunity to snub me then rather than today ,For reading 40 pages and my post is AWFUL ,here are few threads care to comment on these as well .

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...e-of-su-35-fighters-to-pakistan.571625/page-3

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-to-buy-40-su-35-or-euro-fighter-soon.446227/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-may-buy-advanced-mig-35-fighter-jets-from-russia.615479/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/j10-b-confirmed-credible-source.541554/page-3
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pk-m...gle-shot-stealth-fighter-with-chengdu.594151/

Aram hai aur shall I share more

Jhapatna, Palatna, Palat Kar Jhapatna
Lahoo Garam Rakhne Ka Hai Ek Bahana


Get used-to of it man ........ Here slight possibility means done deal ...... Fanboys threads needs to be taken like that.

By the way, there are some reliable people here and you can trust their post so it's up to you and your experience whether you can identify them or not.

 

[Tomahawk]

not sure how selling a bunch of new build F-16 blk 70 to PAF

The original agreement of F-16 Block 50/52 purchase with US was of 18 jets with 18 options. The geopolitical situation is again favorable for Pakistan in exercising the option of 18 jets but with Block 70/72 upgrade.
Historically it is always the Afghan issue that has brought F-16s to Pakistan. Same scenario is prevailing; so new F-16s cannot be ruled out.

 

[volatile]

Jhapatna, Palatna, Palat Kar Jhapatna
Lahoo Garam Rakhne Ka Hai Ek Bahana


Get used-to of it man ........ Here slight possibility means done deal ...... Fanboys threads needs to be taken like that.

By the way, there are some reliable people here and you can trust their post so it's up to you and your experience whether you can identify them or not.

Well said ,Im a practical and now an old man considering the things i see , Its another lolly pop and waste of threads ,day F16s will come (physically in Pakistan) i will take back my words till that time Im sorry i cant be part of this idiocy .

 

[Silicon0000]

Those who thinks F-16 and BVR missiles are to fight Terrorists are living in fool's paradise. Terrorists don't have anything that needs to be counter by BVRs.

Maximum limitation of F-16 use against India is probably they can't be used to do only first pre-emptive strike after entering inside India. Rest all seems to be allowed. We can use them for any attack/defense role from our soil, we can also use them after there is an strike inside our territory. The definition of defensive role is also very vague.

 

[Armchair]

Well said ,Im a practical and now an old man considering the things i see , Its another lolly pop and waste of threads ,day F16s will come (physically in Pakistan) i will take back my words till that time Im sorry i cant be part of this idiocy .

Then why waste your time typing this message and spoiling the environment?

The day the F-16s come, oh those golden goose that they are, that day whether it comes or not, is not impacted by this forum. So why even be on a forum then? Surely, everything will happen anyways, whether we discuss them or not.

So the point actually is quite illogical and pedantic. We come to this forum to discuss, share ideas, analyze. If x is likely to happen, what should we do before, during or after x? What about y and z? How do we deal with the threat of I, J and K? This is the bread and butter of having a discussion forum. And that, sadly is the part you missed the relevance of.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Well said ,Im a practical and now an old man considering the things i see , Its another lolly pop and waste of threads ,day F16s will come (physically in Pakistan) i will take back my words till that time Im sorry i cant be part of this idiocy .

And who asked you to respond and feel special ? If you don’t like the topic just move on and spare me from your incoherent ramblings..

 

[Keysersoze]

It does to your airforce. They ran to buy an obsolete missile to compensate in a hurry.

I wouldn't say the missiles are completely useless. It does show how they realised they were running short.....and wouldn't have enough in a shooting war...

 

[Armchair]

in this instance, does the monitoring not mean that only Americans repair/maintain these aircraft and that no Pakistani or Chinese start taking them apart to see what is what in order to reproduce them in-house without American involvement?

Pakistani technicians can maintain these aircraft. The issue arises with certain sensitive modules. Pak technicians are forbidden from opening these modules (as are the airforces of many countries that fly the F-16s). What is inside these modules? Sensitive tech. And as Turkey found to its chagrin, a bug that allowed the US to monitor the aircraft. Pak technicians can however replace those modules wholesale, not look into them. The seals have to be kept intact and these modules are then handled by the US personnel.

Now, these extra personnel are mainly needed because these F-16s have been on high alert for quite a while since, during and before 27th Feb. This means that a lot of parts need to be maintained and replaced. These may require specialists from LM to take a look at, and to engage in their maintenance.

 

[The Eagle]

However, seeing some of our friends from cross the border being disturbed of the topic in hand which by the time & many of us acknowledged that is merely a discussion based upon ideas & possibilities; still they had concern & referred Congress influence in regard to any deal. For mere reference and understanding as when certain things have to be done by the POTUS; it goes well. I just came across this news piece and thought to share that if, by any chance we are looking at a mutual requirement/offer about Viper upgrade for our existing PAF Fleet along with 24 additional brand new frames; it has to be the President as key for the deal.

Why Trump & why this deal; is already been discussed in length with every possibility. So this deal is workable and can be done based upon consent, understanding, acknowledgment & interests of both the parties involved.

 

[Keysersoze]

1)PAF will be getting 18~24 NEW Blk70 or 72's for now.

2)The current fleet will be upgraded to "V" specs. All of them.
Depending on the condition of the air-frame, some or all, will go through SLEP to 12k hrs.

This Breaking News, is a gift for all those people who stood by me, when I was unfairly banned. Thank You!

I am going to take a sip of the cool aid and ask what weapons are linked with this deal. AMRAAM C7 Or D and aim 9x?

 

[Armchair]

I wouldn't say the missiles are completely useless. It does show how they realised they were running short.....and wouldn't have enough in a shooting war...

What they just bought is approximately an active and modernized R-27, something akin to the developmental K-27. The R-27 is a very unique missile. It was designed with modularity in mind, allowing it to be upgraded constantly. Perhaps the only known AAM in the world which is built on complete modularity and upgradability.

This time the Russians probably sold something serious to them, to maintain their credibility. The R-27 will be able to either outrange the AMRAAM or bring India on par with us. An active R-27 would be a very serious threat. And a passive IR based R-27 could be a silent killer. Pak wanted this at some point in time as there is no equivalent in the world to the passive R-27 other than the Mica-IR, which has a range disability.

We should not act like Indians and take this news in a snigger. It will give them the ability to shoot back. Perhaps with a lower pk, but shoot back nevertheless. In the last duel it was us with a long sword and them with a short sword. Now they too have a less refined long sword (but a long sword nevertheless).

 

[Dazzler]

What they just bought is approximately an active and modernized R-27, something akin to the developmental K-27. The R-27 is a very unique missile. It was designed with modularity in mind, allowing it to be upgraded constantly. Perhaps the only known AAM in the world which is built on complete modularity and upgradability.

This time the Russians probably sold something serious to them, to maintain their credibility. The R-27 will be able to either outrange the AMRAAM or bring India on par with us. An active R-27 would be a very serious threat. And a passive IR based R-27 could be a silent killer. Pak wanted this at some point in time as there is no equivalent in the world to the passive R-27 other than the Mica-IR, which has a range disability.

We should not act like Indians and take this news in a snigger. It will give them the ability to shoot back. Perhaps with a lower pk, but shoot back nevertheless. In the last duel it was us with a long sword and them with a short sword. Now they too have a less refined long sword (but a long sword nevertheless).

Sheer over exaggeration of an obsolete system even with active seeker

 

[War Thunder]

Tomorrow I will have a new face and infact better opportunity to snub me then rather than today ,For reading 40 pages and my post is AWFUL ,here are few threads care to comment on these as well .

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russ...e-of-su-35-fighters-to-pakistan.571625/page-3

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-to-buy-40-su-35-or-euro-fighter-soon.446227/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-may-buy-advanced-mig-35-fighter-jets-from-russia.615479/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/j10-b-confirmed-credible-source.541554/page-3
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pk-m...gle-shot-stealth-fighter-with-chengdu.594151/

Aram hai aur shall I share more

Read all the threads you posted. Compare them with this thread, and then ask your self why?
You'll get your answer.

 

[Armchair]

Sheer over exaggeration of an obsolete system even with active seeker

Be a think tank and contribute something more than one liners. I've looked through your posts, you lack substance. Don't know how you became a think-tank. Between, I thought you didn't agree with this thread?