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Pakistani F-16's conducted 500 sorties with the DB-110 reconnaissance pods over FATA.

DUBAI: In a rare glimpse into Pakistan’s attempt to counter domestic terrorism from the air, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) had flown more than 5,500 strike sorties over the country’s troubled FATA region since May 2008. Chief of PAF described some of the lessons learned at the Air Chiefs Conference in Dubai, Aviation International Times reported.


The need for good airborne reconnaissance was paramount, said Air Chief Marshall Rao Qamar Suleiman. When the Pakistan Army launched large-scale operations in the remote Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) in August 2008, the PAF had to rely on Google Earth imagery when planning for air support missions, AIT report said.

However, by the time that the Army was ready to move against insurgents in the Swat Valley in May 2009, the PAF had acquired Goodrich DB-110 electro-optical reconnaissance pods for its F-16 fighters, together with the same company’s ground station for imagery exploitation. Intelligence analysts could now identify terrorist training camps, ammunition dumps and command and control facilities. Some of these targets were well camouflaged, and protected by bunkers, Air Chief Marshall Suleiman noted.

Two days before the ground offensive was launched, the PAF launched a series of interdiction missions, and followed that up with close air support throughout the six-month campaign. From the imagery collected by the PAF, the Army was also able to identify suitable landing zones for airdrops of commandos.

In these mountainous regions, airpower was best delivered from medium altitude by fast jets, PAF Chief was quoted as saying by the AIT. When the Army turned its attention to South Waziristan in October 2009, the PAF conducted a seven-day campaign in advance. By now, the service had added FLIR Systems Star Safire III EO/IR sensor ball to one of its C-130 transports. Army staff on board the C-130 was able to track the movement of terrorists at night, and radio manoeuvring instructions to soldiers on the ground.

PAF has completely overhauled its tactics and techniques to conduct of irregular warfare, ACM Suleiman said. All of the squadrons were put through a training program over a four-month period. Laser-guided bombs have been used in 80 per cent of PAF strikes, the PAF chief revealed. Avoiding collateral damage was a primary concern, he explained, “specially since we were engaging targets within our own country. We engage isolated structures only, away from populated areas.”

More than 10,600 bombs have been dropped, and 4,600 targets destroyed (A ratio of 1::2), he said. PAF has flown more than 500 F-16 sorties with the DB-110 pod, and 650 with the Star Safire EO/IR sensor on the C-130.

ACM Suleiman said that “we’ve broken the back of militants in FATA.” He said offensive military engagement could only accomplish “10 to 15 per cent” of the task of pacifying tribal areas. The rest must be done by dialogue, winning hearts and minds through economic development of these very poor regions, he said.

In his presentation, PAF Chief did not mention Selex Galileo Falco UAV. However, Pakistan was first customer for reconnaissance drone, which carries Anglo-Italian company’s own electro-optical/ infrared sensor ball. Suleiman told AIN there had been problems with UAV’s data link, caused partly by terrain masking. “Then we put in a relay station, and started flying it higher, so now we are using it more.”
 
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PAF had to rely on Google Earth imagery when planning for air support missions, AIT report said.
er..dont they have access to Chinese satellites ..!!:china:
 
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Battle hardened personnel maybe Pakistan's greatest assets in future conflicts. The sort of real world, practical experience our armed forces have gained under immense pressure is hard to measure. It's the sort of intangible that can truly make a difference in warfare.
The unconventional nature of the warfare has not only allowed them to come up with new tactics, but also allowed us to put our previous plans and tactics into action and learn first hand how effective they are. Technology is huge in warfare, but the impact of experience we are gaining fighting this war cannot be overstated.
It really does come down to who is more clear headed under pressure and quicker on the trigger...the sort of ability only the west can provide their soldiers with, thanks to massive funding...for the third world, nothing tops, actual experience.
 
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You have to take into account that, most of this was financed by USA tax money.
 
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You have to take into account that, most of this was financed by USA tax money.
Mk-82s. Yes. Most of the strikes were. But since late 2010, all the explosions were on our money. JDAMs and Laser Guided bombs.
Can anybody tell me about exact numbers of USA drone attacks in FATA? Just curious.
Not the right thread. Please search for a sticky.
 
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5,500 bombing

How many terrorist killed and how many innocent... count it! and you will get the answer why majority of Pakistan hate Pakistan establishment policy. These terrorist also brought up by Esbt policy! so why always civilian die ?
 
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^^ he said as reported that we broke the back of militants, and also said the rate of success through air strikes was 15 %. :undecided:
 
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Battle hardened personnel maybe Pakistan's greatest assets in future conflicts. The sort of real world, practical experience our armed forces have gained under immense pressure is hard to measure. It's the sort of intangible that can truly make a difference in warfare.
The unconventional nature of the warfare has not only allowed them to come up with new tactics, but also allowed us to put our previous plans and tactics into action and learn first hand how effective they are. Technology is huge in warfare, but the impact of experience we are gaining fighting this war cannot be overstated.
It really does come down to who is more clear headed under pressure and quicker on the trigger...the sort of ability only the west can provide their soldiers with, thanks to massive funding...for the third world, nothing tops, actual experience.

Hi,

Good analysis---that is what I was going to say----this experience is worth its weight in gold----. To learn and act with technology gives you an exponential growth in how effectively you operate.

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^^ he said as reported that we broke the back of militants, and also said the rate of success through air strikes was 15 %. :undecided:


Hi,

He did not mean it the way you understood---. He stated that war will get you 15% success----for the rest, you have to use your 'jaw'.

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You have to take into account that, most of this was financed by USA tax money.

Sir,

We don't have a place for stupid comments on this board---yet. Please don't force the hand of the managers. Thank you.
 
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Makes one wonder what has been going on there for the last 50 years before the bombing.

Hi,

Well--the enemy was not as sophisticated at that time---now you have experienced operators / rejects from their countries----then there are disenchanted educated western kids computer and tech savy---understanding the enemy's mindset + the operators who learn to kill without passion at a very young age----it is a terrible recipe.

Then the biggest problem of all---the time----10 years is too long of a time for any insurgency where an operator with the resources of the united states is facing defeat.
 
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er..dont they have access to Chinese satellites ..!!:china:

Are you sure ?? Do you have any idea what plus points the Google earth provides which may be other satellites don't provide. Google gives you 2D / 3D pictures of whatever you want, it provides you position of sun light at different times of the day. Google earth has lot of potential which other military satellites can't give. Military satellites give pictures from one angle mostly, Google provides 3D shots thus planning operations becomes very easy, it gives pilot the exact layout they want to see, one of the major reason why there has been lot of old fashion bombing runs, as many times the militants had locations up on the mountains or at isolated places, thus non-precision bombing runs were conducted.
 
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Makes one wonder what has been going on there for the last 50 years before the bombing.

before the USSR invaded Afghanistan, and before the taliban, AQ, and US invasion of Afghanistan, the FATA was a 'benign' area, left to its traditions of 'paktunwali'. everyone was welcomed there as long as you did not 'threaten' their way of life.
 
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The Air Chief should never have mentioned the role of the C130's -- suddenly the C130's and their aircrew have become a target along with the already targeted Army Aviation personnel, and the fighter jockeys.
 
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The Air Chief should never have mentioned the role of the C130's -- suddenly the C130's and their aircrew have become a target along with the already targeted Army Aviation personnel, and the fighter jockeys.

Sir, they already know.

Also, for them anyone in uniform is a target, beside the civilians.
 
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