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PAF and the JXX Fifth Gen Fighter

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It looks better than I expected. Let's hope to see the first flight video.
 
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one question- is the PAF going to be getting this jet as and when it is ready or will china keep it like the F-22 and have it exclusively for themselves? by the looks of it, 2020-2025 looks to be a realistic timeframe for its induction since the engine being used is still a Russian powerplant.
 
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In the third picture, there is an open compartment at the side of the plane. Any ideas what is it?

That is where the landing gear will retract.

one question- is the PAF going to be getting this jet as and when it is ready or will china keep it like the F-22 and have it exclusively for themselves? by the looks of it, 2020-2025 looks to be a realistic timeframe for its induction since the engine being used is still a Russian powerplant.

I think China will keep this one exclusive for now. If it gets inducted by 2020, serial production will go on till 2028 or something. That is when China will have around 250 of these jets.

It is only then that China will start exporting these. As it is Pakistan first needs to introduce a low end fighter ie JF-17 to replace all old aircraft, then find an alternative to old F-16s, ie J10.

Only when both the tasks are accomplished somewhere in 2020, will Pakistan think of getting these. It would take sometime for placing order and customization, and China might remove some exclusive features, and deliver Pak by 2027-30 time frame.
 
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one question- is the PAF going to be getting this jet as and when it is ready or will china keep it like the F-22 and have it exclusively for themselves? by the looks of it, 2020-2025 looks to be a realistic timeframe for its induction since the engine being used is still a Russian powerplant.

Considering that India will get PAKFA, then PAF will definitely get this before 2020.

And the powered twin-engines are nowhere Russian by any shape, and the witness in Chengdu can also confirm that they were not using any Russian engine for the flight test. Jane definitely got wrong on the information about the engine.
 
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Considering that India will get PAKFA, then PAF will definitely get this before 2020

Highly unlikely. This plane will not even see IOC by then and you expect PAF to induct it by 2020????

India will be lucky if it gets PAKFA by 2020 and that plane is being developed by one of the world's premier aircraft corporations- cutting edge technologies are not something that can be developed and perfected overnight.

Chengdu is still taking baby steps in aircraft development so unless they have hit upon some magic wand, I dont see how they can leapfrog on this one. However, their recent efforts have been truly commendable and they will be a force to reckon with in future.


And the engine is nowhere Russian by any shape, and the witness in Chengdu can also confirm that they were not using any Russian engine for the flight test. Jane definitely got wrong on the information about the engine

"Witnesses"? you mean the people who are supposed to have taken these spy shots with long range cameras. Or people who work at Chengdu? Or your uncle's cow's feeder's cousin whose girlfriend happens to work as a chef at a company that supplies packed meals to Chengdu?....:hitwall: SHEESH....grow up will ya?

Jane's is the most authoritative source on defence out there and to debunk it, you need something more credible than this....
 
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Highly unlikely. This plane will not even see IOC by then and you expect PAF to induct it by 2020????

India will be lucky if it gets PAKFA by 2020 and that plane is being developed by one of the world's premier aircraft corporations- cutting edge technologies are not something that can be developed and perfected overnight.

Chengdu is still taking baby steps in aircraft development so unless they have hit upon some magic wand, I dont see how they can leapfrog on this one. However, their recent efforts have been truly commendable and they will be a force to reckon with in future.




"Witnesses"? you mean the people who are supposed to have taken these spy shots with long range cameras. Or people who work at Chengdu? Or your uncle's cow's feeder's cousin whose girlfriend happens to work as a chef at a company that supplies packed meals to Chengdu?....:hitwall: SHEESH....grow up will ya?

Jane's is the most authoritative source on defence out there and to debunk it, you need something more credible than this....


Check the rear, they do not bear any resemblance to AL-31F.

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Since Jane haven't seen the aircraft by themselves, they can't know everything by 100%.
 
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Highly unlikely. This plane will not even see IOC by then and you expect PAF to induct it by 2020????

India will be lucky if it gets PAKFA by 2020 and that plane is being developed by one of the world's premier aircraft corporations- cutting edge technologies are not something that can be developed and perfected overnight.

Chengdu is still taking baby steps in aircraft development so unless they have hit upon some magic wand, I dont see how they can leapfrog on this one. However, their recent efforts have been truly commendable and they will be a force to reckon with in future.




"Witnesses"? you mean the people who are supposed to have taken these spy shots with long range cameras. Or people who work at Chengdu? Or your uncle's cow's feeder's cousin whose girlfriend happens to work as a chef at a company that supplies packed meals to Chengdu?....:hitwall: SHEESH....grow up will ya?

Jane's is the most authoritative source on defence out there and to debunk it, you need something more credible than this....

There are pictures. I'm not sure what it is, but not like AL-31

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In my opinion it's Taihang, but still need clearer pics to confirm.
 
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Highly unlikely. This plane will not even see IOC by then and you expect PAF to induct it by 2020????

India will be lucky if it gets PAKFA by 2020 and that plane is being developed by one of the world's premier aircraft corporations- cutting edge technologies are not something that can be developed and perfected overnight.

Chengdu is still taking baby steps in aircraft development so unless they have hit upon some magic wand, I dont see how they can leapfrog on this one. However, their recent efforts have been truly commendable and they will be a force to reckon with in future.




"Witnesses"? you mean the people who are supposed to have taken these spy shots with long range cameras. Or people who work at Chengdu? Or your uncle's cow's feeder's cousin whose girlfriend happens to work as a chef at a company that supplies packed meals to Chengdu?....:hitwall: SHEESH....grow up will ya?

Jane's is the most authoritative source on defence out there and to debunk it, you need something more credible than this....

Here are more pics:

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still looks like WS-10/Taihang
 
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