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Your air chief marshal never said it, but more than 70% of your air force is also junk.
We both know our air forces are not in good shape and we are fielding half a decade old aircraft. So lets not get into it.
And 250-300 5th gen aircraft are the future. IAF will be one of the strongest air forces in a decade.
And please don't tell me how JF-17 is the super awesome plane. We all know better.
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The cheap awesome Plane JF17 currentl;y being lencse asembled from Kits supplied from China Chengdu company is a low cost meduim tech fighter.
It may be awesome in your eyes and is awesome infront of 75% of the PAFS current fleet of F7 & MIRAGES but is it a wise choice for next 20 years.
I,.m assuming the Thunder will serve until 2030 minimum.
If that is the case it will have to take on all of these
su30mki, mirage 2000, mig29 today
su30mki LCA tejas mk1 & 2 MMRCA between 2012-2020
FGFA post 2020
For country on a tight budget well documentated is it stil a wise choice to blow $ billions on Thunder
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Your air chief marshal never said it, but more than 70% of your air force is also junk.
We both know our air forces are not in good shape and we are fielding half a decade old aircraft. So lets not get into it.
And 250-300 5th gen aircraft are the future. IAF will be one of the strongest air forces in a decade.
And please don't tell me how JF-17 is the super awesome plane. We all know better.
Realistically by the the time the First FC20 enter PAF in 2015 THE fgfa COULD be only 2 -3 years away from IOC with IAF.
Once PAF comits the $1.5 billion to buy 40+ fighters that money has gone on what will be PAFs frontline state of the ART FIGHTER FOR NEXT 20 YEARS..IE 2015-2035 AND i assume they will want more than just 40....
For this reason i would go Thunder 200+
Then striAght to JXX and Give FC20 A MISS esp if the gap between Thunder and FC20 is not large in tech terms. afterall both are essentially single engined multi role platforms.
JXX will be a twin engined super stealth multi role fighter with vast range TVC and very small RCS and complete new senso fusion work.
They will eat the IAF SU30MKI fleet and even scare the MMRCA TYPHOONS if IAF buys those too.
FC20 will not give the numerically inferior PAF fleet a tech edge over mki or mmrca that it needs as the smaller air power.
Without 5th generation, stealth fighter, PAF will be easily defeated by IAF. Even 126 MMRCAs are enough to deal with PAF ( F-16s, JF-17, J-10s ), because they are better than anything PAF has got, even J-10s which PAF will get in 2018.
Once again I think that if China is going to exchange the stealth technology at all the first recipient will be Pakistan. There are rumors that a "light" variant of the J-XX is under development at the SAC. That may be China's exported version.
Many people believe the below image to be a protrotype of the china JXX effort.
Chinese Stealth Fighter | Defence Aviation
Any nation with a $2 trillion FOREX and already building FC20 class fighters can surely move into a FIFTH gen project sooner or later.
THE BIG QUESTION will PAF try to join the project as india has done with RUSSIA ON PAK FA