Overview after Paris attacks

[Dubious]

Why does she feel the need to justify herself then?

Is she justifying herself or explaining why she made a choice and how? Maybe some would learn? Or maybe its her way to add her thoughts to what she is doing while rest of her neighbours are using French flag she is saying what about others? And incorporating that thought to her not doing it?

Every thought outside the box? I was told that people have a capacity to only think within a small window which is shaped by their environment, culture, education and other aspects of life.....Which factor limits your thinking and your acture judgement of a lady you dont know who wishes to be different and shares why chooses to be so?

If you are confident in your convictions then you shouldn't need to unilaterally state them like this.

She is on a social media...being a French one from Paris where everyone is changing their flag world wide not just in Paris...she is standing out and showing why...

May I AGAIN ask why are you so judgmental?

She's trying to make this tragedy about herself and her views

It has been circulating on both tweeter and fb! Its taken from her account not a random blog that she specifically opened for this issue or herself!

She is just showing and many people from Paris are doing so...that they now understand what other countries are feeling! Today itself I read 3-4 who were ashamed of their friends and their radical thoughts against refugee and decided to go to random fb pages to say we stand with Lebanon, Syria and Iraq....I havent seen 1 for Afghanistan ...but every step is good!

The msg is clear and it is trending: It's NOT just about Paris. It's about THE #WORLD!

Why go on Facebook or wherever and make a big show about you NOT doing something?

You had no problem people going on fb and even on a Pakistani forum (this one) saying / bashing Islam and Pakistan every now and then but now you have a problem with a Parisan to talk about her own country? Man seriously you have issues!!

 

[monitor]

Paris attacks: Syrian who passed through Greece on refugee route one of Isis killers – live

AFP is reporting that two Tunisian sisters aged 34 and 35 have been identified as victims of the Paris attacks.
According to the “provisional death toll, at least two Tunisians have been killed,” said the Tunisian minister for foreign affairs, Naoufel Laabidi.
Radio station Mosaïque FM reported that the sisters were celebrating a friend’s birthday on Friday evening when the attack took place.

Syrian passport found on Paris attacker's body belonged to refugee who passed through Greece
The holder of a Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen who died inp Friday night’s attacks in Paris passed though Greece in October, a Greek minister told Reuters.

“The holder of the passport passed through the island of Leros on 3 October 2015, where he was identified according to EU rules,” said Nikos Toscas, Greece’s deputy minister in charge of policing.

A Greek police source told Reuters that European countries had been asked to check the passport holder to see if they had been registered.

While this heavily implies that one of the gunman came into Europe along with refugees, Syrian passports are known to be valuable currency amongst those trying to enter Europe, and it is not yet confirmed whether the holder of the passport is indeed the perpetrator.

Three Paris attackers 'from Brussels neighbourhood'
Three of the eight attackers who killed 127 people in Paris on Friday night are believed to have come from the Brussels neighbourhood raided by police this afternoon.

French media reports that three attackers were from the Molenbeek neighbourhood, where police are currently carrying out raids.

RTL reports that the country’s federal prosecutor will make a statement this evening.

Reuters reports that one of the gunmen who died after attacking the Bataclan theatre last night was a Frenchman from Courcouronnes suburb south of Paris.

Courcouronnes lies roughly 20 miles south of the French capital and five miles south of Juvisy-sur-Orge, home to Amedy Coulibaly, who was involved in the Charlie Hebdo shootings in January.

Coulibaly killed four hostages in a kosher supermarket in the Porte de Vincennes before being shot by anti-terrorism forces.

Belgian police operations are under way in the Molenbeek district of Brussels, according to Belgium’s RTBF and RTL television.

One man has been arrested, RTBF reported, saying its journalists had seen heavily armed police search several houses in the area.

Mehdi Nemmouche, the terrorist who attacked the Jewish Museum of Brussels, lived in Molenbeek after returning from Syria.

Police detain Frenchman 'with gun' at Gatwick
A 41-year-old man from France is being questioned by police after “what appears to be a firearm” was discovered at Gatwick airport, Sussex police said.

Why somebody will carry his passport during a terrorist attack? As he knows this may expose him

Seems most of the them are influenced by ISIS and extreme religious ideology !

They may Influence by Isis. Anybody can influence by their ideologies so no need to sends someone disguised of refugee

 

[Dubious]

Here is another example!

xxxxx Today, being a french citizen allowed me to better understand the sorrow beared by other countries, like Syria or Iraq, which live murders and attempts everyday.
All these people diserve our attention more than the attention they gave to "us", french citizens.
This week-end learned me to better take in count the People abroad, and considerate it like more important than isolated attempts. And one more time, please excuse my mistakes, I'm Just trying to support people Which are oppressed by terrorism.


They are just writing what their heart says like people share 101 other things on fb!

Another one:

whilst i understand this view, this is disapointing. We are in a world where the channel can be changed. The media is controlled. We cannot criticise people for not realising whats happening elsewhere. Paris was all over the news last night, yet i found out about other attacks on facebook. Unfortunately places like paris are soo close to peoples reality that the shock factor presses them into talking about it. Its not fair, so people thatdo know need to share, talk and spread the word. Educate. X


I am not quoting Muslim responses coz that is not what one would wanna listen to as they are "victim complex" posts!

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

Actually he was still unknown to majority except the mosque he used to go to...But BBC repeatedly interviewed him...Despite knowing (coz it was online and open information I am sure BBC had excess to internet) that he had no formal education in Islam or any field linked to it! He still doesnt really hold one...But he was repeatedly interviewed for is insane views coz he brought in money or viewers or something! But it wasnt a learned he was interviewing!

ok, I didn't know there was a wahhabi certification authority he had to go before they stamp [L.E.G.I.T.] on it.

this is what saudi wahhabi islam is, terror is halal if you're killing the kaffir (because west so bad, so evil and kills muslims)

 

[Dubious]

ok, I didn't know there was a wahhabi certification authority he had to go before they stamp [L.E.G.I.T.] on it.

Are you clearly dumb or trolling?
read properly:

he had no formal education in Islam or any field linked to it! He still doesnt really hold one

this is what saudi wahhabi islam is, terror is halal if you're killing the kaffir (because west so bad, so evil and kills muslims)

Cant be bothered with a rant! Wahabism is even a wrong word to use....Wahab is 1 of the name of Allah and Wahabism - where

-ism refers to a distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement.

Then by this definition those calling themselves Wahabi arent even Muslims coz they follow a "distinctive" practice, system or philosophy linked to Wahab while we link ours to Muhammad!

 

[Srinivas]

Same attitude is also shown by some colonist minded white supremacists! But no one blames white as a whole by taking this subset as the sole example!


I really hope they are more intelligent than that!


Even if you remove the word Islamic....The sentence still stands strong! And true for every race, religion and nationalism on the planet!

Radicals are radicals! Irresepective of race, religion or nationality!


Can we take recent events and Ashoka's Hinduism and also paint the same picture about Hinduism? Sure we can

Hinduism do not dictate Hindus to make whole world convert to Hindu and submit to Hindu God.

Hinduism sees the whole humanity as one, this is the major difference between Abrhamic religions and Dharma.

Hinduism also do not tell its followers to not to rest until the world is full of Hindusim, but Abrahamic religions do.

so comparing Abrahamic religions who always try to expand into others territories by hook or crook with Hinduism is not correct in this regard. Some wage Jihad, some try to convert by money and charity and some by tricks on the stage.

Simply put Abrahamic religions will not stay static they thrive and cause mayhem when they enter new territories.

Regarding the terror incidents happening in Europe and middle east, this is an undeclared war of Christianity and Judaism vs Islam. I think both the groups are fault and both are using extreme methods to hurt each other. Because of western policies lakhs of people are dead after the invasion of Iraq.

Regarding Ashoka's Hinduism, Sub continent was a great place at that time thriving in all fields.

The incidents happening because of some radical elements, they can be controlled since Hinduism has no doctrine of hatred.

 

[Imran Khan]

what are we waiting to nuke ISIS ????????????

 

[Dubious]

Hinduism do not dictate Hindus to make whole world convert to Hindu and submit to Hindu God.

Neither does Islam...

Hinduism sees the whole humanity as one, this is the major difference between Abrhamic religions and Dharma.

Wrong again

Hinduism also do not tell its followers to not to rest until the world is full of Hindusim, but Abrahamic religions do.

Wrong again why try so hard to show your absolute lack of knowledge? Trolling habits? Hatred?

so comparing Abrahamic religions who always try to expand into others territories by hook or crook with Hinduism is not correct in this regard. Some wage Jihad, some try to convert by money and charity and some by tricks on the stage.

Ashoka - "Hindu King" and what he did to his own hindus

Ramayan itself is about wars
Mahabharat is all about war

Hindu military science recognizes two kinds of warfare - the dharmayuddha and the kutayuddha. Dharmayuddha is war carried on the principles of dharma, meaning here the Ksatradharma or the law of Kings and Warriors. In other words, it was a just and righteous war which had the approval of society. On the other hand, kuttayuddha was unrighteous war. It was a crafty fight carried on in secret.
You even have something military in your religion! And war for religion/ dharma and calling it just and righteous! Even the society approves of wars....what sort of society that must be!

Now please dont derail....You couldnt be reasoned coz you cant think outside india and your religion so I gave an example catering to your thinking

Simply put Abrahamic religions will not stay static they thrive and cause mayhem when they enter new territories.

I see the trolling or some form of phobia

Regarding the terror incidents happening in Europe and middle east, this is an undeclared war of Christianity and Judaism vs Islam. I think both the groups are fault and both are using extreme methods to hurt each other. Because of western policies lakhs of people are dead after the invasion of Iraq.

It has less to do with religion if you havent pieced it together I suggest wait a few more years, you might understand than...

Regarding Ashoka's Hinduism, Sub continent was a great place at that time thriving in all fields.

And he was going around murdering for no reason to conquer?

The incidents happening because of some radical elements can be controlled since Hinduism has not doctrine of hatred.

Yet people kill for something petty like eating beef? indeed!

Now please dont derail....You couldnt be reasoned coz you cant think outside india and your religion so I gave an example catering to your thinking

 

[MilSpec]

I still dont get why BBC made him famous by interviewing him repeatedly when he has no formal education in any field related to Islam! No certificate, degree or diploma in Islamic studies, Quran studies, Muhadith not even Shariah nor Usuluddin!

Maybe because the AQ Jihadi leadership were difficult to track down in ..........?

 

[Dubious]

Maybe because the AQ Jihadi leadership were difficult to track down in ..........?

sorry come again? What did this answer? Him not getting a formal education?

BBC actually showcased him as one who is learned in Islam...I didnt know that in UK according to BBC one who is learned in Islam doesnt need any formal education (certificate, degree, diploma)

 

[Srinivas]

Neither does Islam...


Wrong again


Wrong again why try so hard to show your absolute lack of knowledge? Trolling habits? Hatred?


Ashoka - "Hindu King" and what he did to his own hindus

Ramayan itself is about wars
Mahabharat is all about war

Hindu military science recognizes two kinds of warfare - the dharmayuddha and the kutayuddha. Dharmayuddha is war carried on the principles of dharma, meaning here the Ksatradharma or the law of Kings and Warriors. In other words, it was a just and righteous war which had the approval of society. On the other hand, kuttayuddha was unrighteous war. It was a crafty fight carried on in secret.
You even have something military in your religion! And war for religion/ dharma and calling it just and righteous! Even the society approves of wars....what sort of society that must be!

Now please dont derail....You couldnt be reasoned coz you cant think outside india and your religion so I gave an example catering to your thinking


I see the trolling or some form of phobia


It has less to do with religion if you havent pieced it together I suggest wait a few more years, you might understand than...


And he was going around murdering for no reason to conquer?

Yet people kill for something petty like eating beef? indeed!

Now please dont derail....You couldnt be reasoned coz you cant think outside india and your religion so I gave an example catering to your thinking

In Pakistan people kill a person for eating in Ramzan and it is taken as normal, In India a person is killed for beef and whole intellectual community protests along with political turmoil.

As I said earlier these radical elements can be controlled by maintaining law and order.

Ashoka waged a war on Kalinga and hurt by the violence he converted to Buddhism, this is one of the reason for the fall of Mauryan empire.

Dharma Yuddha and Kuta Yuddha are good against bad, not the hypocrite law of believers vs non believers. You got it wrong here.

I spoke the truth.

 

[Dubious]

In Pakistan people kill a person for eating in Ramzan and it is taken as normal

When did this happen and if so where is it taken as normal? Stop stooping to shit level!

In India a person is killed for beef and whole intellectual community protests along with political turmoil.

Your sample of intellects on PDF said nothing is wrong with it...You may go to the thread if it is still there and analyze!

As I said earlier these radical elements can be controlled by maintaining law and order.

And so can everywhere else on the planet!

hurt by the violence

it doesnt bring back the thousands he killed!

in the name of hinduism!

Dharma Yuddha and Kuta Yuddha are good against bad, not the hypocrite law of believers vs non believers. You got it wrong here.

There is nothing hypocritical...If you dont believe in 1 god what do I call you? Pagan? Non Muslim? Whatever I call you ... you will still get offended...While I dont give 2 hoots if you call me a non believer of Hinduism! I aint going to go insane! Not sure why indians have a small heart to pick petty things like this!

I spoke the truth.

You spoke something and definitely not the truth and you and I both know if I present to you "truth " from the Quran the thread will be automatically closed!

 

[MilSpec]

sorry come again? What did this answer? Him not getting a formal education?

BBC actually showcased him as one who is learned in Islam...I didnt know that in UK according to BBC one who is learned in Islam doesnt need any formal education (certificate, degree, diploma)

what was the islamic educational credentials of Jihadist leaders ( pick any group you may).

for example let's say Mullah Omar- which your own subsequent governments aided and abetted.

 

[Srinivas]

Ashoka never killed people in the name of Hindusim, Kaligas are also Hindus.

It is not a religious war but an empire expansion.

I have fair idea about Qur'an, these days the verses which make the people agitate and go radical are favorites for its followers.

Check out in google about the person killed in Ramzan for eating.

When did this happen and if so where is it taken as normal? Stop stooping to shit level!


Your sample of intellects on PDF said nothing is wrong with it...You may go to the thread if it is still there and analyze!


And so can everywhere else on the planet!


it doesnt bring back the thousands he killed!

in the name of hinduism!


There is nothing hypocritical...If you dont believe in 1 god what do I call you? Pagan? Non Muslim? Whatever I call you ... you will still get offended...While I dont give 2 hoots if you call me a non believer of Hinduism! I aint going to go insane! Not sure why indians have a small heart to pick petty things like this!


You spoke something and definitely not the truth and you and I both know if I present to you "truth " from the Quran the thread will be automatically closed!

 

[Dubious]

what was the islamic educational credentials of Jihadist leaders pick a group you may.

None hence why every known scholar in Islam has denounced their actions!
I am not talking about that....I was asking about that Anjem Ch guy who BBC made famous