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Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

Is Martial Law/Emergency a real possibility after IK arrest?

  • Yes

    Votes: 145 63.6%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.4%

  • Total voters
    228
  • Poll closed .
I’m not a very religious person, but This reminds me of a conversation i had when IK was removed from the government. I was asked how these people kept getting away with this. How the people of the country, including the good people, were always the ones to suffer, and yet these corrupt subhumans always somehow got the money, the power and success. Where was god? How was gods system working if good was being punished and bad was winning? Isn’t his system supposed to work the opposite way? And I remember not having an answer.

This time, when IK was arrested, when all these corrupt people tried, and made a fool of themselves. When everyone started getting exposed. I got the answer.

Pakistan is a perfect example of gods system. All the corrupt people sitting on top of the country, with all the money and power they could always dream of, they are so far away from remembering that they will have to die one day, that they will never once have time to repent in this life for their sins, they will face their justice and most definitely go to hell. Meanwhile the people of Pakistan, suffering under crisis, torture and even death (martyrdom*), they are closer to god than ever before. The ones out there protesting against tyranny, and even the ones just sitting and home and praying. They are still somehow hopeful, because despite not seemingly having power and money, they remember that everyone has to meet god someday, that you can never actually be powerless in this religion as long as you have the capability to pray.
And that’s why gods system is working exactly as intended, because the corrupt are further from god than ever before, and the seemingly week closer to him than ever. That’s how god is punishing the corrupt and rewarding the week. Simply by sitting in our homes and praying, we are being rewarded. We just need to take a step back and look at everything from the right perspective.

“And the greatest form of Jihad is saying “No” to a Tyrant ruler” - Today dozens of officers and their families were removed and arrested, because they did their duty, not the one where they followed orders, but the one where they took an oath to do jihad for God, the greatest form of jihad. This is the other face of the Pakistan army, the one that has been suppressed by tyrants, but today showed itself again when these men decided to remember their oaths. Similarly thousands came to the streets and protested. It may seem like so few did, but IK wouldn’t be walking free right now if it weren’t for their impact.

What could be a bigger curse than forgetting God eh? They can have all the money and power, they can run with it to wherever they want. They can enjoy it while it lasts. They have lost, the people of Pakistan, at least many among us, the ones braver than me who went out, have won, if not been rewarded, because after all, don’t Muslims believe this world is temporary?




Now we need to focus on continuing the fight. What’s next for IK and PTI?
Most of the senior PTI leader is still jailed and remains there, can we expect them to be released anytime soon? And will IK end up in jail again? They’ve seen what happens when they do that, are they willing to afford such riots and destruction again? It’ll only Tank the economy further and make them lose more votes, and it’ll still not diminish the PTIs support. Even if Khan is barred from participating in elections, if his party wins they’ll immediately reinstate him and get him out of jail, so in the long run, after this failure, it feels like the establishment and government have far less options.

The options they do have, they’re already trying to use, I don’t know if the PDM will go as far as harming khan, they know that’ll just make him a martyr, but they know the elections were supposed to be due on the 14, now with Diesels incoming “protests” they will try to declare an emergency and bar the elections so they don’t end up in SC for contempt of court.

The army on the other hand. Asim has gone crazy, he will definitely try something, courts and country be damned, I feel like even the PDM want him to back off at this point, but unless removed from within, I don’t think that will happen. Instead he’s taking out the people who might have opposed him within the army. Very scary. And yes, he is definitely that stupid. Trust me, I know.​
Mashallah brother. What a lovely post and real insight. Allah’s and his Messenger’s Peace be upon Him words hitting home
 
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I’m not a very religious person, but This reminds me of a conversation i had when IK was removed from the government. I was asked how these people kept getting away with this. How the people of the country, including the good people, were always the ones to suffer, and yet these corrupt subhumans always somehow got the money, the power and success. Where was god? How was gods system working if good was being punished and bad was winning? Isn’t his system supposed to work the opposite way? And I remember not having an answer.

This time, when IK was arrested, when all these corrupt people tried, and made a fool of themselves. When everyone started getting exposed. I got the answer.

Pakistan is a perfect example of gods system. All the corrupt people sitting on top of the country, with all the money and power they could always dream of, they are so far away from remembering that they will have to die one day, that they will never once have time to repent in this life for their sins, they will face their justice and most definitely go to hell. Meanwhile the people of Pakistan, suffering under crisis, torture and even death (martyrdom*), they are closer to god than ever before. The ones out there protesting against tyranny, and even the ones just sitting and home and praying. They are still somehow hopeful, because despite not seemingly having power and money, they remember that everyone has to meet god someday, that you can never actually be powerless in this religion as long as you have the capability to pray.
And that’s why gods system is working exactly as intended, because the corrupt are further from god than ever before, and the seemingly week closer to him than ever. That’s how god is punishing the corrupt and rewarding the week. Simply by sitting in our homes and praying, we are being rewarded. We just need to take a step back and look at everything from the right perspective.

“And the greatest form of Jihad is saying “No” to a Tyrant ruler” - Today dozens of officers and their families were removed and arrested, because they did their duty, not the one where they followed orders, but the one where they took an oath to do jihad for God, the greatest form of jihad. This is the other face of the Pakistan army, the one that has been suppressed by tyrants, but today showed itself again when these men decided to remember their oaths. Similarly thousands came to the streets and protested. It may seem like so few did, but IK wouldn’t be walking free right now if it weren’t for their impact.

What could be a bigger curse than forgetting God eh? They can have all the money and power, they can run with it to wherever they want. They can enjoy it while it lasts. They have lost, the people of Pakistan, at least many among us, the ones braver than me who went out, have won, if not been rewarded, because after all, don’t Muslims believe this world is temporary?




Now we need to focus on continuing the fight. What’s next for IK and PTI?
Most of the senior PTI leader is still jailed and remains there, can we expect them to be released anytime soon? And will IK end up in jail again? They’ve seen what happens when they do that, are they willing to afford such riots and destruction again? It’ll only Tank the economy further and make them lose more votes, and it’ll still not diminish the PTIs support. Even if Khan is barred from participating in elections, if his party wins they’ll immediately reinstate him and get him out of jail, so in the long run, after this failure, it feels like the establishment and government have far less options.

The options they do have, they’re already trying to use, I don’t know if the PDM will go as far as harming khan, they know that’ll just make him a martyr, but they know the elections were supposed to be due on the 14, now with Diesels incoming “protests” they will try to declare an emergency and bar the elections so they don’t end up in SC for contempt of court.

The army on the other hand. Asim has gone crazy, he will definitely try something, courts and country be damned, I feel like even the PDM want him to back off at this point, but unless removed from within, I don’t think that will happen. Instead he’s taking out the people who might have opposed him within the army. Very scary. And yes, he is definitely that stupid. Trust me, I know.​
Great post. Thank you for taking the time to write it, I enjoyed reading it. Pakistan is blessed to have such people as her citizens.
 
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Is this confirmed? I suspect there is some going - but 26 is a large number...
Not all confirmed, but not all false either.
Aren't there any internal controls in place to stop such a scenario? There are secondary switches to shut down nuclear weapons in accidental launches, so why not kill-switch on Generals that go insane?

Resignation from posts serve no purpose. They just increase the power ratio in favor of the COAS. Corp Commanders and others must stick to posts and remove COAS if possible.

We used to think the establishment was some institution that encompassed many individuals and transcended the COAS, operating to protect Pakistan no matter the cost. Now it's been revealed that the establishment is nothing more than a COAS, no matter how smart or dumb he may be. If such an institution actually exists, now is the time to act to protect the country and remove the COAS.
Establishment is always meant to be more than one person, the reason why no failsafes have been triggered because of this, is because this situation is so unprecedented that the people that should have triggered those failsafes forgot that they existed. When has such a thing ever occurred in our history before?

Keep in mind that every system has its positives and negatives, if you keep a system that has such failsafes in mind, then those failsafes become a threat too. If they can be used to remove a crazy COAS, they can be used to remove a COAS trying to fix corruption within the army too. And we all know damn well the latter is what it would be used for far for often if it existed.
 
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Whether Zalmay Khalilzad, an Indian analyst, Ayeshad Siddiqa, Hussain Haqqani, PTM, or Gulalai Ismail or anyone else; never to be believed for their words since they are the core supporters and enablers of today's situation in the Country. No matter what, people shouldn't be distracted with these so-called friendly appearing supports. These people are rent a mouth with their only agenda to hail master's agenda and kneeling Pakistan. Even though, there is still a political & democratic rule/law fight going on the country, it doesn't mean you have to side with the arch rivals or even get their help for a short time win over an argument.
When Mushy was chummy chummy with Khalilzad along with the rest of military high command, in fact when they used to salute him and fight the Talis on his behalf and take responsibility for drone attacks, was Khalilzad's and/or Mushy's words believable back then?
 
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