Our fight is not for Kashmir, it’s for Islam: Hizbul commander

[Hindustani78]

Indian Establishment is dealing with proxy war and the reality is this that people of Jammu and kashmir state are suffering because of this proxy war . Border talks with Chinese are at final stages but situation is alarming in Tibet as more Chinese troops are being deployed.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/601818/china-boost-military-cooperation-pak.html

China plans to step up military cooperation with "all weather" friend Pakistan to produce ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and a multi-role combat aircraft, official media here reported as Pakistan's new army chief held talks with top Chinese officials.

On his first visit to China after he took over as Pakistan's army chief, General Qamar Javed Bajwa yesterday held talks with General Fang Fenghui, chief of the Joint Staff Department under the Central Military Commission.

Bajwa also called on Chinese Executive Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli, Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission, General Fan Changlong and Commander of the People's Liberation Army General Li Zhuocheng and discussed regional security, economy defence cooperation and other issues of mutual interest. The "all-weather" strategic partnership has withstood changes in the international community, Fang said.

The talks will consolidate and deepen military exchanges between China and Pakistan, while new cooperation on military techniques might also be discussed, Song Zhongping, a military expert who served in the Second Artillery Corps (now known as the PLA Rocket Force), told state-run Global Times.

Weapon exchanges, including the mass production of FC-1 Xiaolong which in Pakistan called JF-17 Thunder is a lightweight and multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the two countries, will be furthered after the meeting, Song said.

China's authorisation to Pakistan to produce ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, anti-ship missiles and main battle tanks in Pakistan is also on the agenda, he said. The talks will consolidate and deepen military exchanges between China and Pakistan, while new cooperation on military techniques might also be discussed, Song said.

The military cooperation between China and Pakistan will be further enhanced especially in weapons and anti-terrorism sectors, the report said. The two sides also vowed yesterday to ensure the safety of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), an important part of China's One Belt and One Road initiative.

Military cooperation between China and Pakistan will be further enhanced especially in weapons and anti-terrorism sectors, experts noted. Masood Khalid, Pakistan's Ambassador to China, said at a news conference on Tuesday that Pakistan has deployed more than 15,000 troops to protect the CPEC and the country's navy has raised a special contingent for the protection of Gwadar Port.

 

[NakedLunch]

Do you believe, then, it is proper to punish people for crimes they didn't commit? Do you believe that Islam endorses this?

My religious beliefs are none of your concern. Dont ask personal questions unless you are explicitly invited to do so. Your perspective, whatever it is, in this context means nothing. Try this with someone else.

 

[Hindustani78]

My religious beliefs are none of your concern. Dont ask personal questions unless you are explicitly invited to do so. Your perspective, whatever it is, in this context means nothing. Try this with someone else.

Religion do explain to stop fitna and fasaad. And those who are spreading fitna and fasaad will not be spared. We wont let the Dajjal to spread its base and we will even check yajuj and majuj and his group.

 

[NakedLunch]

Religion do explain to stop fitna and fasaad. And those who are spreading fitna and fasaad will not be spared. We wont let the Dajjal to spread its base and we will even check yajuj and majuj and his group.

Excellent. Draw me a pie chart once you make some progress.

 

[doe33]

This thing is getting holier day by day..

 

[nana41]

Do you believe, then, it is proper to punish people for crimes they didn't commit? Do you believe that Islam endorses this?

In principle yes.So all the God fearing Jews should stand up against the Ruling Zionist Fascist ,who have been committing crimes against the poor Palestinian.Otherwise you are committing the same crimes.Just as the Holocaust survivors do not punish the new
German generation.

 

[Solomon2]

In principle yes.So all the God fearing Jews should stand up against the Ruling Zionist Fascist ,who have been committing crimes against the poor Palestinian -

That's a mandated political statement, apparently because Pakistan's policy is not one that can be supported by facts in context. Thus it has no moral weight.

I'm not interested in the Jewish perspective on anything really. Sorry.

You and I can't control the evils that occurred in the past. We can, to some extent, make efforts to alleviate them. And we can choose not to commit evils ourselves now. When you engage in lies and deceptions to "win" moral arguments, when you cite past evils of others to justify those of your own, you are choosing to commit evil.

 

[NakedLunch]

That's a mandated political statement, apparently because Pakistan's policy is not one that can be supported by facts in context. Thus it has no moral weight.


You and I can't control the evils that occurred in the past. We can, to some extent, make efforts to alleviate them. And we can choose not to commit evils ourselves now. When you engage in lies and deceptions to "win" moral arguments, when you cite past evils of others to justify those of your own, you are choosing to commit evil.

Whatever.

 

[Hindustani78]

You and I can't control the evils that occurred in the past. We can, to some extent, make efforts to alleviate them. And we can choose not to commit evils ourselves now. When you engage in lies and deceptions to "win" moral arguments, when you cite past evils of others to justify those of your own, you are choosing to commit evil.

Proud nations never forget thier history and the suffering by which they have gone through. We learn from our history and understand how to make our future better so that our coming generations understand the sacrifices which thier forefathers have made .

 

[thesolar65]

I have been saving money enough to buy a piece of land in Kashmir and so do a lot of PDF Indians.
When can we buy?

 

[Ajaxpaul]

They realised they cannot get kashmir, now finding other excuse for fighting...lol

 

[OTTOMAN]

So it would be 'Islamic republic of Kashmir' from beginning.

 

[OTTOMAN]

It could have been Anything Republic of Kashmir.. until Pakistani leadership became greedy and played their first ever terrorist operation... and then king decided to show Pakistan a middle finger.

Asif Ali Zardari gave you $ 10 million and prove at which point in time Pakistani leadership betrayed RAW?
If there was no Benazir and Zardari,,, today there would be a free Khalistan.
Nawaz Sharif backstabbed army chief in Kargil war.
All of Indians can't thank Pakistani leadership for all the favors they did to you.

 

[Kabira]

Nothing wrong in what he said. Fighting for separate Kashmiri muslim homeland is same as fighting for Kashmir. Remember IoK is muslim majority region and they will obviously not want to live under RSS hindu dominated government. I ask hindus if you guys are willing to live under ISIS?

 

[Solomon2]

Remember IoK is muslim majority region and they will obviously not want to live under RSS hindu dominated government...

Bzzzzzt! Bzzzzzt! Crap Alert! Crap Alert!

Remember the failure of 1965 Operation Gibraltar: Kashmiris were presumed to respond with popular support to Pakistani infiltration of the border and revolt against India.

Z. A. Bhutto explained the failure away quite simply in his 1967 book The Myth of Independence: that Kashmiris desired independence from India was an article of faith among Pakistanis.

It had nothing to do with the wishes of the Kashmiris themselves.