Opinionated - How India can "checkmate" China in a week if war breaks out

[huanghong]

Khattak's response to 26th Feb 2019 strike:
"Our air force was ready but since it was dark they could not assess the damage so they waited"


Shaurya can reach a velocity of Mach 7.5 even at low altitudes

According to the link you gave Shaurya is a ballistic missile

 

[PradoTLC]

Yes you read that right. You are surprised?

China has a big weakness nobody seems to be talking about. Before we talk about that let us do a small military comparision.

As you can see China is superior to India in almost every category except tanks and artillery. But in this scenario China is attacking India. India only has to defend itself. Now we can talk about China's biggest weakness:

Geography

We are going to divide the war into land, sea and air theatres. We start with discussing a land war between Indian army and PLA. No need to mention manpower because its the same.

Land warfare- India vs China

The fact that China has 35000 armoured vehicles and India only 12000 does not mean anything considering the geograpgy. The border is spread out 100s of kilometers of rocky, inhospitable, monstrously huge himalayas with narrow bases.

The first thing we can do is to destroy bridges, turn all weather roads to ashes and block strategic mountain passes. When this done China has no hope of advancing.

Air warfare- India vs China

Fanboys will be talking about superior chinese quantity and quality, but what about logistics? Take a look:

PLAAF only has 5 large airbases in Tibet and 2 in Xinjiang. Meanwhile we have 20 bases with flight range of the LAC. The majority of the 3000 PLAAF aircraft are on the eastern side. 3500 km away from where the action will be happening.

This would mean mid-air refueling. It would longer time to respond to Indian attack. Should I also mention that we would be able to track them before they reach war theater?

There is yet another logistic problem. Cargo weight....

Indian airbases with the exception of a few are the on the plains.

The airbases in Tibet are at an altitude of 4000m above sea level.

The lower air density at such high altitudes hampers jet engines and limits the amount of Weapons and fuel military aircraft can carry while still being able to take off.

Meteorological conditions across the Tibetan Plateau, moreover, are unpredictable, making it difficult to plan high-intensity air campaigns.

In short, the PLAAF cannot hope to run a Sustained air campaign.

Sea warfare- India vs China

This one is very interesting. China has the largest navy in the world. We are massively outclasses in both quantity and quality. Look at the submarine ratio or destroyer ratio.

But again the poor chinese have a geography problem.

We are talking about the choke point in strait of malacca

If the Chinese navy entered the Indian ocean region with the goal of engaging the Indian navy, they would have to come through this strait. The channel is very narrow. Only 2 km at its narrowest point. It would be difficult for the Chinese to send naval assets since Indian navy is going to guard the entrance via Indira port.

What do fighter jets, tanks and warship run on? Oil.... 80% of China's oil is imported through the straict of malacca. A naval blockade would bring a oil crisis in China.

This is why i said that China can be checkmated in a week by India.

CCP can push all they want, but they will meet strong resistance and retaliation from the Indian Army, Airforce and Navy.

And then they will learn their lesson.

Jai Hind!

Dam...

I have to admit indians never lose in the imagination war...

every day indians get up in Whinning India and turn on thier idiot box to the world's most absurd TV channels to watch retired indian generals (who couldnt get jobs at mall security post retirement) planning and finalising a great war against China and Pakistan. Loaded with mental masterbation of imaginary victories.... indian go sleep on the open sewers smelling a great victory... not realising a donkey on it's way to Noon League food kitchen to be butchered for Keema naan... just broke wind all over thier faces.

Jai Lund.

 

[punch2000]

According to the link you gave Shaurya is a ballistic missile

Check out the list. Shauryas name is available here

Hypersonic weapon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Zarvan]

Yes you read that right. You are surprised?

China has a big weakness nobody seems to be talking about. Before we talk about that let us do a small military comparision.

As you can see China is superior to India in almost every category except tanks and artillery. But in this scenario China is attacking India. India only has to defend itself. Now we can talk about China's biggest weakness:

Geography

We are going to divide the war into land, sea and air theatres. We start with discussing a land war between Indian army and PLA. No need to mention manpower because its the same.

Land warfare- India vs China

The fact that China has 35000 armoured vehicles and India only 12000 does not mean anything considering the geograpgy. The border is spread out 100s of kilometers of rocky, inhospitable, monstrously huge himalayas with narrow bases.

The first thing we can do is to destroy bridges, turn all weather roads to ashes and block strategic mountain passes. When this done China has no hope of advancing.

Air warfare- India vs China

Fanboys will be talking about superior chinese quantity and quality, but what about logistics? Take a look:

PLAAF only has 5 large airbases in Tibet and 2 in Xinjiang. Meanwhile we have 20 bases with flight range of the LAC. The majority of the 3000 PLAAF aircraft are on the eastern side. 3500 km away from where the action will be happening.

This would mean mid-air refueling. It would longer time to respond to Indian attack. Should I also mention that we would be able to track them before they reach war theater?

There is yet another logistic problem. Cargo weight....

Indian airbases with the exception of a few are the on the plains.

The airbases in Tibet are at an altitude of 4000m above sea level.

The lower air density at such high altitudes hampers jet engines and limits the amount of Weapons and fuel military aircraft can carry while still being able to take off.

Meteorological conditions across the Tibetan Plateau, moreover, are unpredictable, making it difficult to plan high-intensity air campaigns.

In short, the PLAAF cannot hope to run a Sustained air campaign.

Sea warfare- India vs China

This one is very interesting. China has the largest navy in the world. We are massively outclasses in both quantity and quality. Look at the submarine ratio or destroyer ratio.

But again the poor chinese have a geography problem.

We are talking about the choke point in strait of malacca

If the Chinese navy entered the Indian ocean region with the goal of engaging the Indian navy, they would have to come through this strait. The channel is very narrow. Only 2 km at its narrowest point. It would be difficult for the Chinese to send naval assets since Indian navy is going to guard the entrance via Indira port.

What do fighter jets, tanks and warship run on? Oil.... 80% of China's oil is imported through the straict of malacca. A naval blockade would bring a oil crisis in China.

This is why i said that China can be checkmated in a week by India.

CCP can push all they want, but they will meet strong resistance and retaliation from the Indian Army, Airforce and Navy.

And then they will learn their lesson.

Jai Hind!

Off course they can by SURRENDERING

 

[Dungeness]

Indians are good in "bean-counting", but they lack the mindset of setting strategic goals and the wisdom of knowing what's crucial for their nation building. That's why they have been in these petty border disputes with all neighbours ever since the independence, and just forgot why they wanted to be independent in the first place.

 

[Brainsucker]

Barak-8 has shown outstanding success when it reportedly shot down a Russian made Iskander short-range ballistic missile during the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in 2020

INS Dhruv - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

India Quietly Launches 3rd Arihant-class Nuclear-powered Submarine, Can Carry 8 Ballistic Missiles: Report - News18

The first SSBN INS Arihant was commissioned in 2016, while the second, though initially launched in 2014, is awaiting commissioning into the Indian Navy.

www.google.com

3D printing speeds up production of missiles, China Daily

Let's say that your Barak-8 has 100% success on countering China missile. But then, how many Barak-8 that India can launch to counter Chinese's mass production cruise missiles that are made by their new 3D printing tech? Maybe India will spend all their money and Barak-8 even before China spend half of their Cruise Missile stock. Even if they have, they can replenish their cruise missiles in a time of weeks rather than months, unlike traditional missile making process.

 

[RescueRanger]

 

[MisterSyed]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theweek.in/news/india/2022/04/24/spike-nlos-decoding-iaf-interest-in-israeli-tank-killing-missile.amp.html

India test fires anti-tank guided missile Helina from chopper, hits target

Helina, a fire-and-forget missile guided by an infrared imaging seeker system, successfully engaged a simulated tank target at high-altitude ranges. It was fired from the advanced light helicopter.

www.google.com

Bharat Dynamics signs contract with Indian Army for supply of Konkurs anti-tank missiles

Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) and the Indian Army have signed a contract for the manufacture and supply of Konkurs-M anti-tank guided missiles.

www.google.com

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.econ...nstrator-vehicle/amp_articleshow/77974388.cms

Quote a Credible source mate, we know Indian News Outlets like Self BJs

 

[Skywalker]

looks like uncle sam is feeding the same sort of bull crap to endia what they did to ukraine. Abey konsi waali peeta hai bhai.

 

[WinterFangs]

Why write so much, india will win with the supreme modi ji in one punch.

the great, supreme, all knowing, all conquering, king of akhant bharat, 56 inch of pure muscle chest, sir modi ji shall conquer china within 2 nights. jaI modi ji!

 

[Tornado23]

Khattak's response to 26th Feb 2019 strike:
"Our air force was ready but since it was dark they could not assess the damage so they waited"


Shaurya can reach a velocity of Mach 7.5 even at low altitudes

3 strike packages were monitored by the PAF. 2 of them were decoys, the third (balakot) was the real one. The other 2 were intercepeted and turned back. Balakot strike package only stayed 3 minutes in pak air space. Those 3 minutes include, the time they entered, were intercepted and bailed out of the air space. Spice 2000 bombs are sow. In effect the spice 2000 munition could have been launched from the border and to hit balakot.

But hey, at least we didnt lose a single jet in any of the skirmishes.))))

 

[punch2000]

3 strike packages were monitored by the PAF. 2 of them were decoys, the third (balakot) was the real one. The other 2 were intercepeted and turned back. Balakot strike package only stayed 3 minutes in pak air space. Those 3 minutes include, the time they entered, were intercepted and bailed out of the air space. Spice 2000 bombs are sow. In effect the spice 2000 munition could have been launched from the border and to hit balakot.

But hey, at least we didnt lose a single jet in any of the skirmishes.))))

Inside story of attack on Balakot — from IAF officer who planned and executed it

A total of 16 aircraft, six each armed with Spice 2000 and Crystal Maze missiles, flew into Azad Kashmir and struck Balakot terror camp while 4 remained in Indian territory as back-up.

www.google.com

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

looks like uncle sam is feeding the same sort of bull crap to endia what they did to ukraine. Abey konsi waali peeta hai bhai.

TBF the ukrainians are thrashing the russians at the moment.

 

[Tornado23]

Inside story of attack on Balakot — from IAF officer who planned and executed it

A total of 16 aircraft, six each armed with Spice 2000 and Crystal Maze missiles, flew into Azad Kashmir and struck Balakot terror camp while 4 remained in Indian territory as back-up.

www.google.com

 

[huanghong]

Check out the list. Shauryas name is available here

Hypersonic weapon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

wow, this list even includes the Kh-15! Such strange data, I'm pretty sure the Kh-15 is not a hypersonic missile, it's a ridiculous link.
Actually the kh-15 and the Chinese CM401 have very similar ballistics, and the CM401 is clearly defined as a ballistic missile. The strange thing is why can't see CM401 in this link? It fits perfectly into the kh-15 definition and actually has a higher speed.