Patriots
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Jan 19, 2013
- Messages
- 7,200
- Reaction score
- 2
- Country
- Location
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Except you're wrong again.I believe it does. More than most Pakistanis would like to acknowledge. But I will leave that for a different discussion. On the choice of era, I think while the hostility between Afghanistan and Pakistan had been there from Day 1, the level of engagement and blatancy of interference changed significantly after 1980's so equating the pre soviet era to the post one, is no less of a misrepresentation than totally ignoring it.
It is impossible to verify The claims of ISPR, due to absence of media there. Since months, claims of deaths of several dozens uzbeks are made in each air strikes, they should have been eliminated by now. But those reports seem believable which are saying that foriegners already fled NW before operation.The number is yet low because the Ground operation will be launched onwards tomorrow.
Until now only the airstrikes are on offensive.The Ground operation was suppose to be launched today but one more day was given to the local to evacuate.
With Hafiz Gul bahadur,haqqani and TTP combined.The potential of terrorist is in excess of 5,000.Expect 3000+ of them to be killed and the later will escape
My favourite page
Real Balochs vs Fake Balochs | Facebook
Have any of these TTP scum fled to Swat from NW? If so, this might be good because we already know swat fairly well and have presence there so it'll be easy to hunt and dispatch the scums to hell.
While I dont agree, will leave this for a different discussion since that is really not the core of this thread.Except you're wrong again.
First, I'd like to say that Pakistanis do have problem acknowledging certain bitter truths, such as Bangladesh's separation, but the fact is that India-Pakistan history is not similar to Afghan-Pakistan history. The comparison is only cosmetic at best.
It's not about what you think, it's about historical facts, what you think is completely irrelevant. Afghanistan started this and intensified it, Pakistan retaliated when the Soviets started supporting Afghanistan against Pakistan.
I'll just end the conversation with this, historical facts don't care about your personal views, you cannot change history to suit your narrative. The best you can do is acknowledge facts, and keep them in mind, so you don't lose sight of what's right and what's wrong.
It is impossible to verify The claims of ISPR, due to absence of media there. Since months, claims of deaths of several dozens uzbeks are made in each air strikes, they should have been eliminated by now. But those reports seem believable which are saying that foriegners already fled NW before operation.
TTP is not exactly holding the territory of NW , according to reports, most of them have also fled along with their entire leadership. Haqqanis never wanted to fight with pakistan to begin with, they were probably in contacts with military before op and most probably they were allowed to leave the area silently. The one who pak army is going to face, is hafiz gul bahadur and his men, and we dont know what are his capabilities ,strength and fighting style, he did kill more than 60 pak army soldiers in one ambush , at exactly the same spot where his grandfather ambushed british army and killed their 53 soldiers.
The only operations where TTP really lost huge number of fighters, was in swat. They tried to fight like a regular army. Unlike TNSM of swat, battle hardened tribal taliban, instinctively go for stretagic retreat, whenever they are at disadvantage and over-powered. In south waziristan operation, ISPR made the claim of deaths of some two thousands TTP fighters. But the reality is, they found no significance resistance from TTP. Except occasional gun firing and IEDs, TTP had already fled to other areas.
I find it quite worrying actually because it means we cleared Sawat but couldn't keep it clear.
New Recruit
why dont you take a break and dont post your silly comments here ?It will end with an all out defeat for the army,they will try their best to come out with excuses,They are actually already making them up and seriously speaking who believes in the ISPR figures...300 killed ? give me a break
The army said at least 160 militants had been killed since it began air strikes on militant targets in Shawal and other areas of North Waziristan last Sunday.
There is no independent media access to the area and no way of confirming the casualty figures.
North Waziristan has a population of almost seven million. Officials say approximately 80% of the population is still living in the area as the military strikes escalate.
Several refugees told the BBC they felt angry at the military for bombing their homes.