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[Zarvan]

From judging your posts, you are full of misinformation and brainwashing, you must leave Pakistan immediately please.

you finish grade 10th school?

Its you who are living in denial

Courtesy: ISPR

Is this Tank Type 59 ?

 

[sur]

Courtesy: ISPR

Nice photo-op, now somebody show him very basics of military training "how to hold a gun". He's wearing bullet-proof jacket but those children don't have any guards on.

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Remember not to share the same bottle, that's just gross.
* Not to be administered rectally

توں اے دس تينو ں جى ايچ كيو تے اير بيس اٹيك توں بعد برنول نل فرق پيا سى كه نئ كهسيا

لگدا إےتينوں بوتا تجربه هے اپنے اے هول وچ انگلاں دين دا
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[krash]

It will end with an all out defeat for the army,they will try their best to come out with excuses,They are actually already making them up and seriously speaking who believes in the ISPR figures...300 killed ? give me a break

Nice photo-op, now somebody show him how to hold a gun. He's wearing bullet-proof jacket but those children don't have any guard on.

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* Not to be administered rectally

 

[VelocuR]

Its you who are living in denial
Is this Tank Type 59 ?

Why would we tell you whether Type 59 or 80? You want to blow up this tank?

What do you want to know more equipments?

 

[blain2]

Pakistan will have to keep responding for next 100 years than because the thing which started the problem was entering Tribal areas in first place and becoming part of USA so called war on terror and the same thing will never solve the issue

By the way which Tank is this is it is not looking Type 59 to me ?

So what is the problem with entering FATA? What if the Army brings with it development? Becoming part of the war on terror is not an ongoing narrative. It happened and Pakistan has moved on. Most of Pakistan does not even buy this story that Pakistan is fighting America's war any longer given the immense cost to Pakistanis themselves at the hands of the militants. Perhaps the supporters of TTP will continue to peddle this story, but the stark reality is that the moment the TTP turned its guns on the GoP in the name of fighting for shariat, they lost the battle of minds with the majority of Pakistani population. Of all the Muslim countries, Pakistan's laws can never be against or contrary to those laid down by sharia. Yet despite this, these fringe groups want to shove THEIR own version of interpreted sharia on the rest of Pakistan and this won't work. Appeasement has not worked, surrender to them is not an option. The middle ground is to inflict as much pain on them as they want to mete out. For the longest side, the people and the government of Pakistan have been on the receiving end. For the sake of the future of the tribals, they cannot allow their own tribesmen to turn extremist or support outside extremists in their attempts to overthrow the government in Islamabad.

The Tank is indeed a T-59 with some protection added for the machine gunner's cupola.

 

[Devil Soul]

https://twitter.com/x/status/480048457957142528

 

[blain2]

I would have prefer dying fighting enemies of Islam than becoming there partners and betray Muslims and attack them and attack them ourselves on USA orders so you chose wrong side why you cry when many in Tribal areas turned against you

Perhaps you have a point, but then why defend those who carelessly and without regard brutally murder fellow Muslims? Where is our Islam when it comes to condemning the TTP for mercilessly killing women, children, elderly and young alike in masajids, bazaars etc. etc.?

Pakistan has helped the Afghan mujahideen and the Taliban to the extent possible. The betrayal was actually on the other side by using Pakistan's territory to launch attacks all over the World and then bringing all types of international condemnation and pressure against the country. Last I checked, no other Muslim country bothered to help Pakistan when we were being threatened with sanctions and possible strikes for being accused as a state sponsor of terrorism.

I still have not seen a decent explanation for this oft-quoted accusation of "attacking our own on US orders..." What was the GoP to do in 2004 when the Americans were threatening to send boots on the ground in our tribal areas? Were we to let them come in or get in there and try to control the situation, which was greatly exacerbated by the foreigners with a lot of money living in the FATA, ourselves? When we went in there, they drew the first blood by killing two of our officers and 4 other ranks. The job of the Army in 2004 was to go into the tribal areas and get the foreigners residing there to either register with the GoP or leave. This is what the militants took a fight over, that is "don't register us" and "let us do what ever we want to." After the killings of the army men, the government of the day responded with force and shipping of foreigners to foreign countries. The rest is as we see it. So this simplistic story about betrayal is used to gain moral high ground but it never reveals the kind of pressure and danger it was putting the hosts (Pakistan) in. If the fight is on in Afghanistan, the tribals should have set the base inside Afghanistan. Why was Pakistan forced into this situation by them?

For those who don't know, they will continue to harp on Pakistan's betrayal, but the truth is that Pakistan has done the maximum possible for the Afghans during the Soviet war, it has tried to deal with the Taliban as best as possible and not a single other Muslim country has stepped up to support Pakistan in this mess. To this day, the GoP and the Army have set up surrender points for people to give up militancy. If shariat is what you want then remind me of a single law in the past 2 decades that has been passed by the Pakistani parliament and is contrary to shariat. You won't find it. The government and the people are not against shariat. Rather the inclination of the taliban to become chaudhries over all of us. That we cannot accept. Their way is fine for the tribal areas perhaps, but the rest of Pakistan cannot live with that and will fight it tooth and nail.

 

[F.O.X]

ISPR Official

Search of area at suspected place

I Like this Formation , Entry team Led by an SSG/LCB , it has been quite successful in recent operations .

 

[asad71]

This sort of op is the worst nightmare for a soldier and a commander.What counts here is not so much the body count of the enemy as the number that have been won back into the mainstream of national life.

 

[blain2]

I Like this Formation , Entry team Led by an SSG/LCB , it has been quite successful in recent operations .

Regular infantry units are all trained in methods of entry techniques now as part of their fighting in built up areas syllabus. This is part of their training prior to rotating into the theater.

 

[Menace2Society]

Zarvan attempting to justify the murder of innocent Pakistanis. I don't care if Pakistan has nuked Afghanistan, there is no justification to kill a Pakistani.

Zarvan you truly are in a moral blackhole. Your principles are so confused.

I hope you are watching, once PA has secured NW they will move on to Kunar and Nooristan. And there are no IDPs there. They will pound this area so hard that TTP will die this year along with every single one of their sympathizers.

 

[yesboss]

• Since the beginning of this operation, TTP has not been able to respond with an attack in any city . . . . . . yet. It seems armed forces have gone in with a real good strategy, TTP is just not getting the breathe by settling down. If only life is made hell for them in Afghanistan too the same way, they would be really crushed, and only then we could bring an end to this reign of terrorism in Pakistan.
• Can't we just permanently seal the border, means that we could monitor any movement on the border and react, using radars of any sort?

 

[Menace2Society]

• Can't we just permanently seal the border, means that we could monitor any movement on the border and react, using radars of any sort?

Permanently sealing the border can be done. A concrete fence cutting on Waziristan to Afghanistan could cost $2-3 billion which is manageable if it means everlasting peace.

However for the next 12 months we need the entire border with 24/7 drone surveillance. Snipers with a no mans land which extends 1 mile into Afghanistan.

It is imperative after successfully conquering Waziristan from terrorists we need to push into Kunar and Nooristan. I don't have faith in Afghan government. This is something we just have do ourselves.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

@Zarvan or Pak-one, you didn't support this Op, right?

I actually supported it, since long. But i was of opinion that both good and bad taliban should be targated. Supporting people like sajna, creates the impression in the 'awam' that pak army is playing double games and is not sincere. I also raised the question that why haqqani network was spared (and supported) when they are involved in the Afghanistan with exactly same tactics like TTP e.g suicide bombings, assassinations, blast at civilians etc.
I was also of opinion that full scale military operation, after full evacuation of civilians, is preferable to surgical and reteliatory strikes in the presence of population which causes huge collateral damages. Moreover NW was a mess, as it had large presence of military as well as militants, due to which life there was paralyzed due to curfews, collateral damages etc.
I also have different views on drone strikes compared to you folk. I have always considered drone strikes 100 times better than jet bombardments. I was the first one on this forum to claim that people of waziristan are not against highly precised drone strikes but reteliatory military strikes and shellings. Both ayaz wazir and rustam shah mohmand, with whom i have contacts, share this views with me.
I am of opinion that this op, would be success on pattren of SW op 2009, but it wont end TTP. It is war of decades and the roots of it are madrassas and poverty.
This approach , naturally, would gave me label of being terrorist supporter and traitor in a fauji forum.

 

[Patriots]