Operation Peace Spring in Northern Syria : The Turkish initiative to create safe zone
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Everything Erdogan achieved is that now Kurds bordering Turkey instead of allied US will be controlled by Assad, Putin and Khamenai.
However, de jure all this land is Syria Arab Republic which is a UN member state. Neither Turkey nor US dared to annex any land like Russia annexed Crimea.
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Well for ASSAd... they gave a safe place for PKK for a long time...
For some specialist... it's because of a that that PKK continued to survive and flourish later on...
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Its not like i trust any of them either but the thing is they can not supply pkk as much as the Americans can, not even nearly as much, look at ypg, they almost dont differ from a modern army anymore.
Can those three also supply such equipment? I highly doubt, they are definitely easier to deal with than the US thats for sure.
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Remember Afrin and Tel Rifaat... They've been almost 100% supplied by ASSad and IRan... remember the loots...
Remember who opened the bridge for them to get even more supplies...
That same point... RU was controlling...
No one in this conflict want TR near... They ALL supplied/shelled/used YOUR enemy against you at some point in time in this conflict... and still do.
I understand that TR alone can't do much, even though she tries her best... But NO ONE is your friend/ally in this conflict... if they could they will have ganged up on TR long before...
]Look now... You enemy is Officially accepted in both Sides of this conflict... and the countries involved... in One voice are condemning and threatening your op...
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* Assad and Russia created and armed PKK, they are directly responsible for death of tens of thousands Turks.
* Zero attacks against Turkey from US controlled areas. All weapons provided by US were very limited for specific operations.
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Truth be told, the US was expecting one outcome from their very hasty but well planned retreat, and that was a conflict between Turkey and Assad in the least. And at most a conflict with Russia too. They made is seem that they had to retreat from bases because of Turkey's actions but in truth they could have stayed put, it is a war zone after all. The plan was that they hand over bases to incoming Russian or Assadists to draw Turkey into conflict.
One thing that they did ensure was that Turkey didn't create the Safe zone that it wanted but they didn't expect that this would happen.
Well there are some positives and a good one is that - for now at least - there is a little calm for a while and chance for the international media/political bombardment against Turkey to subside.
The best thing to come of this operation, is the revealing of the true nature of the 'YPG' by people like Trump and as well as other politicians and media.
One thing that they did ensure was that Turkey didn't create the Safe zone that it wanted but they didn't expect that this would happen.
Well there are some positives and a good one is that - for now at least - there is a little calm for a while and chance for the international media/political bombardment against Turkey to subside.
The best thing to come of this operation, is the revealing of the true nature of the 'YPG' by people like Trump and as well as other politicians and media.
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At the end of the day, the foreign forces will go the way they came....
As for Turkey, it's one step at a time on these stepping stones...
As for Turkey, it's one step at a time on these stepping stones...
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Good to know this war has stopped, we already seen enough of Muslim bloodshed.
Turkey has done well, I know they wanted to create a border zone under their control but their main aim was to secure their border from YPG and they have done so with joint patrol with Russia. So job done, next is how will they relocate 2 million people. Assad is also a big winner, he gained alot of lost territory under his control.
Syria next aim should be to reunite the full country. Do a deal between Kurdish parties, and Assad parties and the last rebels and then hold a general election. Unfortunately the war has set Syria back for 30years, the same way Iraq was setback and after decades it's still unstable so I expect Syria to be unstable for the next 15years, political problems, corruption, traitors popping out.
Turkey has done well, I know they wanted to create a border zone under their control but their main aim was to secure their border from YPG and they have done so with joint patrol with Russia. So job done, next is how will they relocate 2 million people. Assad is also a big winner, he gained alot of lost territory under his control.
Syria next aim should be to reunite the full country. Do a deal between Kurdish parties, and Assad parties and the last rebels and then hold a general election. Unfortunately the war has set Syria back for 30years, the same way Iraq was setback and after decades it's still unstable so I expect Syria to be unstable for the next 15years, political problems, corruption, traitors popping out.
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