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Operation Asifa: 45 Indian soldiers killed by Kashmiri resistance in Pulwama.

It does demand for an escalation from Indian side now and if the govt doesnt then its worthless and we are unfortunate because our other option is even more unfortunate. During doklam our option said "Gove antagonize china".
 
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Sort of, but not exactly for the same reasons and on a much minor scale. First off, the hundreds of thousand have to do less with Kashmir itself, rather they're there because Kashmir is the sour point between Pakistan and India and the focus of most wars between us. Armed separatism is a recent occurrence in Kashmir.

As far as the Indian government is concerned, Kashmir is an integral part of India. India doesn't see a need to settle with the Kashmiris. It's already settled that Kashmir is Indian territory. There is no need for peaceful resolution because the issue was resolved 70 years ago. Everything else is agression from other parties.

Then there is the issue of scale. Remove Pakistan from the equation and the Kashmir issue is diminished, the Kashmiri separatists have almost 0 bargaining power, and all the chips are in India's hands.

Quite simply, peace with Pakistan is a good thing to have down the road and might be benificial. Peace with Kashmir is an afterthought.
The problem being that Pakistan can't be removed from the equation since it is a party to the dispute that India herself brought to the UNSC. That and the Kashmiris don't want Pakistan to be removed from the equation. At the end of the day the issue is the people of J&K, and regardless of what the Indian position is, the Kashmir and Pakistani position remains the same, as emphasized by the UNSC Resolutions on the dispute.

A country(India) not known to have such large scale bombings like this almost guarantees that the explosives were imported from a country(pakistan) that DOES HAVE such attacks on a regular basis.
How? As I said, IED and VBIED expertise is available across multiple conflict zones. They don't need to train in Pakistan or obtain material in Pakistan if they are using commonly available materials such as fertilizer from India.
 
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You are not providing us anything , Kashmir was never yours to begin with .. It was a disputed land ,and an unfinished business in S.Asia .

As i said in my earlier post, senseless killing will not help nor stop the violence .

It is a matter of perception and you guy's are fully entitled to your perception and views, I do respect they even though I don't agree with that.

And we view Kashmir (the whole Kingdom prior to 1947) as our integral part and we thrive to integrate it fully with the Indian union down the road sometime in future.

So, yes as I have said earlier we are ready to afford some losses.
 
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The problem being that Pakistan can't be removed from the equation since it is a party to the dispute that India herself brought to the UNSC. That and the Kashmiris don't want Pakistan to be removed from the equation. At the end of the day the issue is the people of J&K, and regardless of what the Indian position is, the Kashmir and Pakistani position remains the same, as emphasized by the UNSC Resolutions on the dispute.

With all due respect the UNSC resolutions on Kashmir are non enforceable and I'm pretty sure you know that better than me. They act more or less like a guidelines, nothing else. And regardless of what some Kashmiri's and Pakistan think our position is also loud and clear. KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA.
 
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With all due respect the UNSC resolutions on Kashmir are non enforceable and I'm pretty sure you know that better than me.

No UNSC Resolution is "Non Enforceable"...
Moreover, the UN Resolutions on Kashmir are 'Binding' on all parties involved
 
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I think it has nothing to do with Pak civilian govt ..... either Jaish or their masters will definitely pay the price

Thand Rakh...
Right now, you have paid price with 35 boys, enjoy... will pay more price in future INSHAALLAH.
 
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It is a matter of perception and you guy's are fully entitled to your perception and views, I do respect they even though I don't agree with that.

And we view Kashmir (the whole Kingdom prior to 1947) as our integral part and we thrive to integrate it fully with the Indian union down the road sometime in future.

So, yes as I have said earlier we are ready to afford some losses.

you can say because you might never end up fighting a war which has no end in sight, you may never experience where Soldiers have to kill innocent civilians because of their seniors order to do so, you may never face the situation which your soldiers face in Kashmir , check out the Suicide rate there among IA forces .

and as for blood, if Indians have no value for their own Soldiers than good luck .
 
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With all due respect the UNSC resolutions on Kashmir are non enforceable and I'm pretty sure you know that better than me. They act more or less like a guidelines, nothing else. And regardless of what some Kashmiri's and Pakistan think our position is also loud and clear. KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA.
But they remain the only mutually agreed upon means to resolve the dispute - the government of India committed to them multiple times before eventually reneging on them. They also remain the only moral and just solution to resolve a conflict and dispute over territory - allow the people that belong to the land of J&K to determine freely which country they wish to be a part of. As the self-proclaimed world's largest democracy, India, of all countries, should respect this means of dispute resolution.
 
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NDTV has reported this while ago,

40 CRPF Men Killed In Blast In Kashmir's Pulwama, Worst Attack In Decades

SRINAGAR: Nearly 40 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel were killed and many others injured when terrorists targeted a convoy with a car bomb at Awantipora in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama district today, in what is the worst attack ever on security personnel in the state.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/15-...r-blast-in-jammu-and-kashmirs-pulwama-1993561

ECONOMIC TIMES India...

At least 42 CRPF personnel killed in suicide attack in Kashmir's Pulwama district
 
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