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Well @Sargon of Akkad even sub Saharan African have some degree of neantederal genome due to reverse migration of Eurasian into Africa about 5000 to 3000 year ago as a result they have 0.3 to 0.7 percent of neantederal genom .that's less than any other place but its still there . .
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34479905
Also
a friend of mine trenching in makkah for railway communication lines hit a treasure trove of ancient artifacts and idols and took some home with him...
a friend of mine trenching in makkah for railway communication lines hit a treasure trove of ancient artifacts and idols and took some home with him...
He should return those ancient artifacts immediately.
Nah he is keeping a handful of them as a trophy!
The problem with archaeology in Arabia is that it is a treasure trove of pagan past which the mutaween would hate to expose...and off-course Judaism would be everywhere...!
I must apologize for probably making some mistakes here, I am new so please forgive me. Going back to the thread, do I see some sort of writing system surrounding the camel drawing?Is he an local or an expat? Not that it matters aside from such behavior being worse if he was an local. In any case he should return those artifacts. As for the mutaween, they have no such authority. Especially not as long as Prince Sultan is around. In fact I have never seen them anywhere outside of the cities and recently their powers were reduced significantly which I am sure that you have heard about. Besides their presence was always the strongest in Najd, mainly Riyadh.
Don't forget Christian history as well. For instance the Jubail Church from the beginning of the 4th century in the Eastern Province is one of the oldest churches in the world and it remains closed off. As do other church ruins across KSA.
Speaking about archaeology.
Does this finger prove our ancestors left Africa earlier than believed? 90,000-year-old human bone discovered in Saudi Arabia
By SHIVALI BEST FOR MAILONLINE
- The bone is the middle section of the middle finger, measuring 1.2 inches
- It was found near to the northwestern city of Tayma in Saudi Arabia
- It could be the oldest trace of human life in the Arabian Peninsula
- This could prove that humans ventured out of Africa earlier than believed
PUBLISHED: 16:58 GMT, 19 August 2016 | UPDATED: 17:11 GMT, 19 August 2016
Archaeologists in Saudi Arabia believe they have discovered the Middle East’s oldest human bone during an excavation.
The bone is the middle section of the middle finger of a human that scientists claim lived 90,000-years-ago.
If this estimate is correct, it would make the bone the oldest trace of human life in the Arabian Peninsula and predate the time when humans are thought to have migrated out of Africa to spread around the world.
Archaeologists in Saudi Arabia believe they have discovered the Middle East’s oldest human bone during an excavation. The bone is the middle section of the middle finger of a human who was thought to live 90,000 years ago
According to London-based newspaper, Asharg Al-Awsat, the discovery is 'considered an important achievement for the Saudi researchers who participated in these missions and one of the most important outcomes of Prince Sultan’s support and care for the archaeology sector in the Kingdom.'
The researches claim this is the old human bone found in the Middle East.
The bone found in Saudi Arabia is not the oldest in the world, however. The most ancient human bone, thought to belong to an early species of human, is a jaw bone found in Ethiopia in 2015.
It is dated to 2.8 million years ago, and predates all other fossils in the lineage by 400,000 years.
The finding comes from a joint project between archaeologists from the University of Oxford and Saudi researchers, as part of the Green Arabia Project. They found the bone at the Taas al-Ghadha site near to the northwestern Saudi city of Tayma
The oldest bone from an early species of human is a jaw bone found in Ethiopia in 2015. It is dated to 2.8 million years ago, and predates other fossils in the lineage by 400,000 years
Saudi and British archaeologists dig up 90,000-year-old middle finger
Project jointly run between Riyadh and Oxford University dates human habitation of Saudi desert back 325,000 years
Scientists have also studied ancient rock art in the deserts of modern-day Saudi Arabia as part of the joint venture (Palaeodeserts Project)
Archaeologists have discovered the oldest human bone ever found in Saudi Arabia, digging up part of a middle finger dating back 90,000 years.
The discovery was part of a joint project begun in 2012 by scientists from Saudi Arabia and the UK’s Oxford University.
The discovery was announced late on Wednesday by the head of the Saudi Commission for Tourism and Antiquities, Ali Ghabban.
“The Green Arabia project has studied sites at ancient lakes in the Nafud desert,” Ghabban said, referring to an area in the north of the Arabian Peninsula.
Ghabban said that excavations at the Taas al-Ghadha site, close to the northwestern city of Tayma, suggested human habitation stretching back up to 325,000 years.
The bone that was discovered during the dig is the middle part of a middle finger belonging to a human being who lived some 90,000 years ago, making it the oldest physical trace of human habitation discovered in the area.
Al-Arabiya, a state-owned Saudi newspaper, reported in its English edition that the bone was the “world’s oldest”.
However, the oldest bone belonging to a member of the Homo genus, the lineage that ultimately led to modern human beings, is a jaw bone discovered in Ethiopia last March that is believed to be around 2.8 million years old.
The Green Arabia project, established in April 2012 and set to conclude next year, looks at how the various phases of climate change over millennia in the area that is now Saudi Arabia have affected human settlement and migration patterns.
Oxford University is a “key partner” of the state-run Saudi Commission for Tourism and Antiquities, according to the project’s promotional material.
The venture, whose full name is Green Arabia, The Palaeodeserts Project, has also looked at ancient rock art found in Saudi Arabia as well as fossils from vertebrates that lived around 700,000 years ago.
Another recent (last month as well) discovery:
Mosque from Early Islam Discovered in Saudi Arabia
ASHARQ AL-AWSAT
August 18, 2016
Riyadh-Antiquities found in Al-Kharj in Saudi Arabia highlight an important civilization dating back to the Stone Age. Therefore, the joint French-Saudi mission for archeological exploration maintains its works in a number of governorates mainly Al-Yamamah site to reveal the history of the region and the old civilizations that settled in it.
The mission that has 18 members of Saudi and French scientists and experts in archeological excavation has discovered at the Yamamah site in Kharj many architectural antiquities of a huge mosque that existed in the early Islamic era in between first and fifth centuries hegira. The mosque was composed of three roofed halls, two mihrabs, and open body hall. There are indicators that it may be the third biggest mosque in the Arabian Peninsula after the two holy mosques.
The survey made by the mission also comprised Bana settlement in addition to five other Islamic sites distributed on many areas lining between Riyadh and al-Dawasir valley.
The Old Stone Age
Results of exploration process have shown many sites that refer to the Old Stone Age for the first time in this region. Fractions of old pottery and glassy utensils were also discovered.
These utensils are likely to be from the Abbasside era and may have been used in the last phase before Islam and till the fifth century hegira.
Researchers found antiquities that refer to early Islam like pottery utensils and a bunch of bracelets made of glass paste.
At Ain al-Delai site in the western side of Kharj, archeologists have found 5,000-year-old traces of human settlement that may refer to the first millennium B.C., in addition to a 56-centimeter-long silver sword.
The mission also discovered a number of old farms and architectural establishments that go back to the fifth century hegira.
Mawan Mountain and Ain Farzan
The mission of archeologists moved to the mountains surrounding Kharj to implement a filed survey for sites from the Stone Age. The area included Mawan Valley and Ain Farzan, where they discovered sites that refer to the old Stone Age.
The mission will continue its work this year looking for sites from the Bronze Age in Ain Al-Delai region to complete the work that begun in 2013, along with the excavation process in the newly discovered mosque.
The Saudi-French mission is working according to the agreement inked between the Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage and the French authorities in September 2011.
His Royal Highness Prince Faisal bin Bandar bin Abdul Aziz, the chairman of the Saudi authority, recently met with the Saudi-French team which is carrying out the archeological excavation work at the Yamamah historical site in Kharj. His Highness praised the efforts of the mission aiming at offering the Saudi people the opportunity to learn more about their country’s heritage and the old civilizations that settled in it before them.
Dr. Abdulaziz al-Ghazi, archeology professor at King Saud’s University and head of the Saudi team in the mission, considered that this mission is the first-of-its-kind in the country and that its work will continue over the next five years, which will pave way to the discovery of more sites.
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Very interesting findings if you ask me. A shame that certain ultraconservative fractions and individuals in the country are allergic to history that is not Islamic history.
The gentleman on the right being one of such people:
@somebozo
No comment.
However the good thing is that my generation (2/3 of the population) by large, do not have this allergy anymore since nowadays there are other authorities than clerics. The world looked completely different when the majority of those clerics were born. In particular outside of the West.
I must apologize for probably making some mistakes here, I am new so please forgive me. Going back to the thread, do I see some sort of writing system surrounding the camel drawing?
That's the loudest slap ever just so you Muslims know the real face of these people whom called wahhabi this guy @Sargon of Akkad lying like that on the Quran who scream day and night on people to go and study the nations before us well the Quran even scream on us to study the universe all in total and always tell oh you men of understanding!!! now this man saying it is against of Quran no Sir it is against your wahhabi doctrine not the Islam.Lol... the quran explicitly says go study the universe and history not restrict it.
The Saudis are probably worried about grave worship... antd artifact worship. Nothing to do with quran. The wahaabi tradition is very suspect to historical artifacts due to worship of artifacts... the Saudi version of Islam is genetallt regressive ... but i think they are waking up to that reality slooowly
Thank you and I do share your sentiment as well. There are very small differences amongst us for the rest we have much more in common than not. You have hot heads everywhere, that won't change but it is much more enjoyable and enriching all when people can discuss issues in a civilized manner and not start insulting and wars over things we absolutely have no power to do anything about. I do have to state that I do support Assad but having said that, it literally breaks my heart to see the pain and suffering that we as a community are inflicting on our own. It is simply madness. It only weakens us. In the meantime the rest of the world is laughing and congratulates us for destroying ourselves.
That's the loudest slap ever just so you Muslims know the real face of these people whom called wahhabi this guy @Sargon of Akkad lying like that on the Quran who scream day and night on people to go and study the nations before us well the Quran even scream on us to study the universe all in total and always tell oh you men of understanding!!! now this man saying it is against of Quran no Sir it is against your wahhabi doctrine not the Islam.
Knowing these illiterate people, they will raze it to the ground and build a mall or road through it.
I did not use profanity friend so please use dignified language - your mother has really not taught you properly at home and hence this verbiage. if you cannot write properly get lost then into the desert.You are not too bright are you, dumb ignorant troll? KSA has a literacy rate of well over 95%. Among the highest in the Muslim and non-Western world. Higher than your supposed country, South Africa, although I suspect you to be of South Asian origin, in which case you should better keep quite on this front in order not to embarrass yourself completely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate
Not to say that writing itself and the first alphabets were invented in the Arab world by my Semitic ancestors. In fact civilization itself.
Now go pollute another thread with your stupidity, not informative threads like this one.
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Some ancient artifacts recently found by hunters.
Video:
Amazing. I can spot Arabian Jewish, Christian and ancient pre-Abrahamic Semitic pagan religious symbols.
Private individuals, as soon as they start digging, appear to find treasures all over KSA.
I should do my bit, when I return back home, given the frequency of such findings.
I just need to buy this gadget.