On India- by ex-air mahshal Shahzad Chaudhry

[nahtanbob]

A Pakistan that has access to Central Asia can be a conduit for western and Gulf investors (as they wouldn’t want to go via Russia, Iran or China), as well as a rail link for a percentage of Chinese trade towards the Middle East and Africa.

How about getting the Taliban to moderate here ?

 

[VkdIndian]

Unless Indians change their govt. to a non-Hindutva one - there will always be reproach of India by India's unfortunate neighbors.

What was achieved by these unfortunate neighbours when Modi wasn’t in power? And that was for major part of this regions existence post 1947. Modi has solved more issues with Bangladesh then that by all previous Indian governments since 1971.

India has a vibrant democracy where no party has been able to implement it‘s writ. BJP and Modi will also bite the dust. But that has it’s own due process.

Bangladesh leaders are in fact smart and don’t want to take bund panga with India unnecessarily. There is no reason for Bangladesh to get into a conflict with India. They have been able to take Bangladesh from nowhere in 1971 to today’s economy with per capita gdp higher than that of India. If that is not success then what is.

 

[Realtalk108]

What was achieved by these unfortunate neighbours when Modi wasn’t in power? And that was for major part of this regions existence post 1947. Modi has solved more issues with Bangladesh then that by all previous Indian governments since 1971.

The Chhitmahal swap deal comes to mind. This was stuck since 1970s and remained stuck even during UPA (although they did start the important groundwork). NDA2 neatly cleared the deal in 2015.

 

[Hecig]

OK, I looked him up:
Fakhar Yousafzai
@fakharzai7

Journalist l Analyst l Columnist l Social Activist l Anchor l Work for Climate l Traveller l Hiker, https://khybernews.tv/page/3/?s=Fakhar+Yousafzai…+
Islamabad, Pakistan

I do not think he wants to post fake news; he just might be innocent enough to receive a file from somebody saying this is battlefield footage and he will put it on his Twitter. Bare minimum, he can show it to a senior military officer and ask for comment or confirmation. That a young journalist will have such a perfect perch to get a complete battle footage seems incredible.

So your claim is that the Journalist is stupid and doesn't know how to verify the information given by his sources. This despite him being a Native Pashtun and TTP being a Pashtun organization and Pashtun being well known for having strong tribal links and network.

Do you have the same standard of disbelief for western journalists too ?

Clearly your armchair 'guess" and "doubt" is more reliable than his action video footage and his boots on the ground.

The emphasis has to be on the people of Pakistan. With nukes my rational mind would have thought the powers in charge of Pakistan would turn to the internal development of Pakistan
On the other hand the rulers of Pakistan are thinking like imperials of centuries ago. the mindset is visible on PDF for all to see

Is that why US helped pakistan get out of the FATF grey List ?


Khalistani and Jihadi terrorists killed a Hindu man to show “capability” to handlers in Pakistan, had plans to kill influential RW leaders ahead of Jan 26

Last week, on Thursday, January 12, Delhi Police suspected two suspected terrorists, Jagjit and Naushad, from Bhalswa Dairy area in Delhi. Now it has emerged that the duo killed a Hindu man, chopped up his body, and sent the video of the murder to their handlers in Pakistan. The aim of sharing the video was to impress their handlers across the border with their capability.

Though the deceased’s identity is yet to be ascertained, the Delhi police said that his religious identity (Hindu) could be established by the trishool (trident) tattoo on his arm. The recovered body parts of the deceased have been sent for forensic examination. Efforts are on to identify him using the missing persons’ record from mid-December, said the police.

According to an India TV report, the two suspects, Naushad and Jagjit Singh, who were arrested under the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) on Thursday, confessed to their crimes in front of Delhi Police and added that they chose a Hindu man intentionally intending to spread communal violence before Republic Day.

The Delhi police further revealed that the duo were also planning to target some Shiv Sena leaders in Punjab in the coming month.

According to police, the duo was given four to five names by their Pakistan-based handler Sohail, who is associated with the terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba and linked to Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, ISI. The targets included a local RSS worker, a senior Punjab-based Shiv Sena party leader, and a Sikh group member who is opposed to the Khalistan movement. Sohail allegedly informed the duo that he would transfer money to them after each murder, said the police, adding that they have discovered a list of some names.

As per a report by TOI, a probe by the intelligence agency revealed that the duo, Jagjit alias Yakub and Naushad, was being handled by the K2 (Kashmir-Khalistan) desk of the ISI.

Naushad and Jagjit alias Yakub killed the Hindu man to impress their terror “bosses” in Pakistan​

Earlier on Thursday, Special cell of the Delhi police arrested the two — identified as Jagjit Singh (29) and Naushad (56) — from the Bhalswa Dairy area of Jahangirpuri in Delhi. The police recovered two hand grenades, three pistols, and 22 live cartridges from the suspects. The police also found traces of blood at their house, following which the two were questioned.

Further, Delhi Police said it has information that Jagjit Singh has links to Khalistani terrorist Arshdeep Dall. He is also a member of the notorious Bambiha gang and has been receiving instructions from anti-national elements based abroad, the city police said, adding that he is also a parole jumper in a murder case in Uttarakhand.

Naushad is also associated with Harkat-ul-Ansar (HUA), a terror group that is based in Pakistan and primarily operates in Jammu and Kashmir. He has been a life convict in two counts of murder and has also served a 10-year sentence in connection with a case under the Explosive Act.

During their questioning, they confessed to their terror activities, and when the police searched their residences and nearby areas, the chopped-up body was found in a drain.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@FuturePAF

Pakistan isn’t so far gone that it can’t catch up, but it will take decades. Not absolute parity but on a per capita basis it can catch up,

It may seem a long time back but until late 1990s, Pak was actually ahead of India in per capita terms and even until late 2000s its infrastructure was way better. And if we back further in time- before 1965, Pak was set to be the first Asian Tiger (although the term hadnt been invented yet).

Pak is a compact state with a well defined identity. Shouldnt take long to catch up with "India" (India as a whole) if it makes up its mind to and get its priority right. What would take longer is to catch up with the best parts of India viz. South + West

Regards

 

[S.Y.A]

Pak is a compact state with a well defined identity.

that is where you are wrong. while it is smaller than india, it does not have a well defined identity. here, everyone just looks out for themselves. ethnic politics overrules anything that can be done for the greater good.

 

[FuturePAF]

How about getting the Taliban to moderate here ?

It’s the other way around, the Afghans will need Pakistan to moderate between them and the western world/gulf countries. No one wants to recognize them, and they want recognition and money to give to spend on their people.

If by “moderate” you mean become more moderate, that is a process we can’t social engineer and speed up. The level of PTSD can only be addressed over time, and the Afghans coming to that decision on their own.

If you look at any population that has been in decades of war, such as Vietnam, they go through a process of consolidation and eventually opening up when they have to face the outside world to address the increased expectations of their population.

It may take decades, but I think it will be faster as the Afghans don’t have ideological barriers to interacting with the outside world, and will sooner rather then later have to fulfill the growing expectations of their people.

It would be better for them and the outside world if Pakistan can get its act together and moderate between the two groups to build up the financial and diplomatic incentives to keep the Doha agreement going. It’s in Pakistan’s interest as well to have a stable and prosperous Afghanistan on its border if it respects Pakistan’s interests as well.

 

[FuturePAF]

@FuturePAF

Pakistan isn’t so far gone that it can’t catch up, but it will take decades. Not absolute parity but on a per capita basis it can catch up,

It may seem a long time back but until late 1990s, Pak was actually ahead of India in per capita terms and even until late 2000s its infrastructure was way better. And if we back further in time- before 1965, Pak was set to be the first Asian Tiger (although the term hadnt been invented yet).

Pak is a compact state with a well defined identity. Shouldnt take long to catch up with "India" (India as a whole) if it makes up its mind to and get its priority right. What would take longer is to catch up with the best parts of India viz. South + West

Regards

Yes, we shouldn’t be so pessimistic but we also should be realistic with regard with what it will take to catch up to the best areas of India. It took organizations like the TATA more then a century to build up to where they are now, and decades for other large companies in India. Pakistan will also take decades to get to where these most productive segments of India are now, but only if we are focused.

So we can be Optimistic if we see the elites accept that the future comes down to economics. Pakistan is so inefficient that people know where there is untapped growth just waiting to be harnessed. The other bright spot. Also unlike India, where a couple dozen people have 90% of the wealth, Pakistan’s potential future wealth can be built by investment to modernize from the bottom up, lots of small and medium sized enterprises, as in Germany.

Identity is consolidated in one way, but not in other ways. Which like Germany, can be overcome, with the right culture building from the top. It will take decades though. Good governance throughout as well as good education and in two generations; 45-50 years, when the population is expected to reach 400 million, the majority of the public will have only known the country, with regional cultures, but a strong national culture.

 

[walterbibikow]

Also unlike India, where a couple dozen people have 90% of the wealth

In a "historical change" for India, 415 million people exited multidimensional poverty in the country in 15 years between 2005-06 and 2019-21

The incidence of poverty in the country dropped from 55.1% in 2005-06 to 16.4% in 2019-21, as per the latest Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI) compiled jointly by the UN Development Programme (UNDP) and Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative (OPHI).

Food subsidies prevented rise in extreme poverty during COVID-19 in India: IMF

The new paper ‘Pandemic poverty and Inequality: Evidence from India’, published in IMF, authored by Surjit Bhalla, Karan Bhasin and Arvind Virmani aimed to study the effect of in-kind food subsidies on poverty and inequality.

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World Bank Praises Indian Govt For Taking Special Policies For Poor During Pandemic

World Bank President, David Malpass said that, the way India has provided help to the poor and needy people during the covid 19 pandemic crisis is extraordinary, , world bank, government of india, COVID-19 Pandemic

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India ranks third in the global car race | Autocar Professional

According to global forecasting agency S&P Global Mobility, Indian light vehicle sales for 2022 are set to grow by over 22% to 4.4 million units, whereas Japanese market sales are expected to slip to 4.2 million units.

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[FuturePAF]

In a "historical change" for India, 415 million people exited multidimensional poverty in the country in 15 years between 2005-06 and 2019-21

The incidence of poverty in the country dropped from 55.1% in 2005-06 to 16.4% in 2019-21, as per the latest Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI) compiled jointly by the UN Development Programme (UNDP) and Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative (OPHI).

Food subsidies prevented rise in extreme poverty during COVID-19 in India: IMF

The new paper ‘Pandemic poverty and Inequality: Evidence from India’, published in IMF, authored by Surjit Bhalla, Karan Bhasin and Arvind Virmani aimed to study the effect of in-kind food subsidies on poverty and inequality.

www.google.com

World Bank Praises Indian Govt For Taking Special Policies For Poor During Pandemic

World Bank President, David Malpass said that, the way India has provided help to the poor and needy people during the covid 19 pandemic crisis is extraordinary, , world bank, government of india, COVID-19 Pandemic

www.businessworld.in

India ranks third in the global car race | Autocar Professional

According to global forecasting agency S&P Global Mobility, Indian light vehicle sales for 2022 are set to grow by over 22% to 4.4 million units, whereas Japanese market sales are expected to slip to 4.2 million units.

www.google.com

I glad for India that they reduced poverty. A reduction in suffering is a good thing. One benefit of the rivalry between India and Pakistanis that it puts pressure on Pakistani leaders to address their failures.

This is why, IMHO, part of the reason why the last two Pakistani governments (Sharif and IK) borrowed heavily to build infastrufture, to keep up with India. Out of it, sure Pakistan got debt, but once it gets the fundamentals of its tax code and economy right, the country would be primed to accept FDI, much like India was after the reforms of the 1990s.

 

[313ghazi]

Indians talking about size and girth...

 

[Bilal9]

I glad for India that they reduced poverty. A reduction in suffering is a good thing. One benefit of the rivalry between India and Pakistanis that it puts pressure on Pakistani leaders to address their failures.

This is why, IMHO, part of the reason why the last two Pakistani governments (Sharif and IK) borrowed heavily to build infastrufture, to keep up with India. Out of it, sure Pakistan got debt, but once it gets the fundamentals of its tax code and economy right, the country would be primed to accept FDI, much like India was after the reforms of the 1990s.

Don't believe their Godi Media Hogwash and BS. They did not reduce poverty at all. All made up numbers.

Proven time and time again.

A lot of people in India believe this BS because - in a land of scarce hope and misery, it gives them the warm and fuzzies.

Make believe and making castles in the sky.

 

[Suriya]

Don't believe their Godi Media Hogwash and BS. They did not reduce poverty at all. All made up numbers.

Proven time and time again.

A lot of people in India believe this BS because - in a land of scarce hope and misery, it gives them the warm and fuzzies.

Make believe and making castles in the sky.

Nagpur, a third tier city in India has a metro of 39km long.

In Uttar Pradesh, three cities have metros. Everything isn't made up by Godi media.

 

[imadul]

Fojistan has crippled Pakistan in every way possible.
Economically, politically, and socially.
Fouj just keep creating same blundering realities that awam are 3rd rate citizens, we have no future.
That failed air Marshall should give lecture to Fauj to respect rights of the awam and stop their colonial domination at the cost of the country.
Army rules, country dooms.
All these lecture and talk on this forum is just a mourning cry and useless. We are doomed till two dozen generals are hanged.
Too many pm's killed, assasinated, thrown out, Journalists killed, lets have some generals on the poles.

 

[SaadH]

Fortunately Pakistan chose the right path and did not become a puppet & slave of India like Bangladesh.

Thankfully We do not have sold outs like Hasina.

Became puppet of the West and by proxy of India...

that is where you are wrong. while it is smaller than india, it does not have a well defined identity. here, everyone just looks out for themselves. ethnic politics overrules anything that can be done for the greater good.

Not just ethnic, sectarian division is even starker...