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US based company for marketing Super Mashaq

DUBAI (November 24, : What appears to be a giant leap for the Pakistan's aircraft manufacturing industry, a US based company has contacted the Pakistani officials for the marketing and sale of Super Mushshak aircraft, being manufactured at Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Kamra, Pakistan.

'A US based logistic support company, Demo Corporation, has offered the marketing and sale of the Super Mushshak aircraft in USA', said Air Commodore Muhammad Younas who led a delegation of PAF to the five-day Dubai International Aerospace Exhibition '97 which concluded on Thursday. 'If the deal is struck, we will be able to sell 100 to 150 aircraft in USA through the Demo Corporation', he claimed. 'Though it is a big achievement for us, we would certainly consider all aspects before coming to any final decision', he said.

'In fact, the Super Mushshak-395, a Pakistani student trainer aircraft's first visit to Dubai international aerospace exhibition proved to be a great success as a number of companies including one from the United States showed interest in getting the aircraft', disclosed Younas who is also the Managing Director of Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

'Demo Corporation has also offered to assist us get the aircraft certified to American standards from Federal Aviation Association of USA. So far the aircraft is certified by Swedish Aviation Association (SAA) from Sweden'. 'Though the American company has so far no specific customer in hand but it has offered us to promote the aircraft in the up-coming aerospace exhibitions which will be held in NBA and Oshcash, USA. The company will also look out for publicity and help us reduce the price of the aircraft', he noted.

He said that the Demo Corporation is an aviation consultancy, marketing and manufacturing aviation hardware. 'They are looking for higher aircraft and the Super Mushshak is their priority', he maintained.

About the finalisation of deal with the American company Younas said: "We have given them an extremely useful presentation. Now we will seriously consider their proposals and respond within four week after discussing the matter back home.'

Pertinent to mention here that US had imposed military sanctions against Pakistan under the Pressler Amendment which bans military assistance to countries believed to have nuclear programmes. And due to this law, as many as 28 F-16 fighter jets fully paid for by Pakistan are still dumped in the deserts of Arizona since 1991.

Asked if the 1984 Pressler Amendment would affect this deal, Younas said: 'The Pressler Amendment will not affect this deal, if struck, because the aircraft falls in the FAA Part-3 category (single engine light aircraft category which is not affected by the said law)'.

To another question, he said that the Super Mushshak would be used by the private flying clubs in USA and elsewhere for training purposes.

Oman, Saudi Arabia and Yemen have also showed interest in the aircraft at the Dubai '97 and negotiations were going on to finalise the deals. It can be a very suitable aircraft for the UAE Air Force in place of existing fleet of Groub, German aircraft, a brand new design which has not yet been tried by International customer, Younas observed, adding that Super Mushshaq would also be far cheaper than the Groub aircraft.

Super Mushshak is the improved version of Mushshak aircraft which is currently being used by Oman, Syria, Iran, Zimbabwe, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Pakistan.

So far the AMF has produced two such aircraft whereas five more will be ready by the end of this year. 'Pakistan Air Force will be its first customer', he said.

The two/three-seat trainer and military utility aircraft, Super Mushshak's maximum speed is now 145 kt compared to the earlier 128 kt with the rate of climb increasing to 1,700 fpm compared to 1,024 fpm.

Cruise speed is 130 kt, stall 52 kt and the service ceiling is 24,000 ft. and time to 10,000 ft is 10 minute.

Take off distance is 50 ft to 900 ft and the take off roll distance is 600 ft. Payload is increased to 880 lb in the new aircraft with up to 660 lb on the aircraft's six underwing mounts and another 220 lb in the rear cabin instead of a third seat.

First flying on Pakistan's Independence Day, August 14, 1996, the prototype Super Mushshak was joined by a second test aircraft last July. The aircraft is approved to perform steep turns, stalls and spins, four point and barrel rolls, stall turns, loops, hammerhead stalls and inverted flying. Chief test Pilot Faiq Ahmed demonstrated these manoeuvres each day at the Dubai air show.

The aircraft is built by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, a section of the country's Ministry of Defence. The Mushshak is built by the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory division which was opened in 1981 to build the aircraft. It currently employs about 1,000 people.

The factory also is involved in developing the Karakorum K-2 jet trainer in cooperation with China. It also repairs aircraft of up to 2,590 lb. The Mushshak is a development of Saab Safari/Supporter for which Pakistan took over production rights in 1981.

About 260 Mushshak have been produced. Sales include 25 to Iran, six to Syria and five to Oman, which may also be the first export customer for the Super Mushshak, with an order for another five currently under discussion. 'With the inception of Super Mushshak, the production of its older version 'Mushshak' will become slow and ultimately it will completely be replaced by Super Mushshak', Younas added.
 
US based company for marketing Super Mashaq

DUBAI (November 24, : What appears to be a giant leap for the Pakistan's aircraft manufacturing industry, a US based company has contacted the Pakistani officials for the marketing and sale of Super Mushshak aircraft, being manufactured at Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Kamra, Pakistan.

'A US based logistic support company, Demo Corporation, has offered the marketing and sale of the Super Mushshak aircraft in USA', said Air Commodore Muhammad Younas who led a delegation of PAF to the five-day Dubai International Aerospace Exhibition '97 which concluded on Thursday. 'If the deal is struck, we will be able to sell 100 to 150 aircraft in USA through the Demo Corporation', he claimed. 'Though it is a big achievement for us, we would certainly consider all aspects before coming to any final decision', he said.

'In fact, the Super Mushshak-395, a Pakistani student trainer aircraft's first visit to Dubai international aerospace exhibition proved to be a great success as a number of companies including one from the United States showed interest in getting the aircraft', disclosed Younas who is also the Managing Director of Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

'Demo Corporation has also offered to assist us get the aircraft certified to American standards from Federal Aviation Association of USA. So far the aircraft is certified by Swedish Aviation Association (SAA) from Sweden'. 'Though the American company has so far no specific customer in hand but it has offered us to promote the aircraft in the up-coming aerospace exhibitions which will be held in NBA and Oshcash, USA. The company will also look out for publicity and help us reduce the price of the aircraft', he noted.

He said that the Demo Corporation is an aviation consultancy, marketing and manufacturing aviation hardware. 'They are looking for higher aircraft and the Super Mushshak is their priority', he maintained.

About the finalisation of deal with the American company Younas said: "We have given them an extremely useful presentation. Now we will seriously consider their proposals and respond within four week after discussing the matter back home.'

Pertinent to mention here that US had imposed military sanctions against Pakistan under the Pressler Amendment which bans military assistance to countries believed to have nuclear programmes. And due to this law, as many as 28 F-16 fighter jets fully paid for by Pakistan are still dumped in the deserts of Arizona since 1991.

Asked if the 1984 Pressler Amendment would affect this deal, Younas said: 'The Pressler Amendment will not affect this deal, if struck, because the aircraft falls in the FAA Part-3 category (single engine light aircraft category which is not affected by the said law)'.

To another question, he said that the Super Mushshak would be used by the private flying clubs in USA and elsewhere for training purposes.

Oman, Saudi Arabia and Yemen have also showed interest in the aircraft at the Dubai '97 and negotiations were going on to finalise the deals. It can be a very suitable aircraft for the UAE Air Force in place of existing fleet of Groub, German aircraft, a brand new design which has not yet been tried by International customer, Younas observed, adding that Super Mushshaq would also be far cheaper than the Groub aircraft.

Super Mushshak is the improved version of Mushshak aircraft which is currently being used by Oman, Syria, Iran, Zimbabwe, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Pakistan.

So far the AMF has produced two such aircraft whereas five more will be ready by the end of this year. 'Pakistan Air Force will be its first customer', he said.

The two/three-seat trainer and military utility aircraft, Super Mushshak's maximum speed is now 145 kt compared to the earlier 128 kt with the rate of climb increasing to 1,700 fpm compared to 1,024 fpm.

Cruise speed is 130 kt, stall 52 kt and the service ceiling is 24,000 ft. and time to 10,000 ft is 10 minute.

Take off distance is 50 ft to 900 ft and the take off roll distance is 600 ft. Payload is increased to 880 lb in the new aircraft with up to 660 lb on the aircraft's six underwing mounts and another 220 lb in the rear cabin instead of a third seat.

First flying on Pakistan's Independence Day, August 14, 1996, the prototype Super Mushshak was joined by a second test aircraft last July. The aircraft is approved to perform steep turns, stalls and spins, four point and barrel rolls, stall turns, loops, hammerhead stalls and inverted flying. Chief test Pilot Faiq Ahmed demonstrated these manoeuvres each day at the Dubai air show.

The aircraft is built by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, a section of the country's Ministry of Defence. The Mushshak is built by the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory division which was opened in 1981 to build the aircraft. It currently employs about 1,000 people.

The factory also is involved in developing the Karakorum K-2 jet trainer in cooperation with China. It also repairs aircraft of up to 2,590 lb. The Mushshak is a development of Saab Safari/Supporter for which Pakistan took over production rights in 1981.

About 260 Mushshak have been produced. Sales include 25 to Iran, six to Syria and five to Oman, which may also be the first export customer for the Super Mushshak, with an order for another five currently under discussion. 'With the inception of Super Mushshak, the production of its older version 'Mushshak' will become slow and ultimately it will completely be replaced by Super Mushshak', Younas added.
Great initiative!
 
US based company for marketing Super Mashaq

DUBAI (November 24, : What appears to be a giant leap for the Pakistan's aircraft manufacturing industry, a US based company has contacted the Pakistani officials for the marketing and sale of Super Mushshak aircraft, being manufactured at Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Kamra, Pakistan.

'A US based logistic support company, Demo Corporation, has offered the marketing and sale of the Super Mushshak aircraft in USA', said Air Commodore Muhammad Younas who led a delegation of PAF to the five-day Dubai International Aerospace Exhibition '97 which concluded on Thursday. 'If the deal is struck, we will be able to sell 100 to 150 aircraft in USA through the Demo Corporation', he claimed. 'Though it is a big achievement for us, we would certainly consider all aspects before coming to any final decision', he said.

'In fact, the Super Mushshak-395, a Pakistani student trainer aircraft's first visit to Dubai international aerospace exhibition proved to be a great success as a number of companies including one from the United States showed interest in getting the aircraft', disclosed Younas who is also the Managing Director of Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

'Demo Corporation has also offered to assist us get the aircraft certified to American standards from Federal Aviation Association of USA. So far the aircraft is certified by Swedish Aviation Association (SAA) from Sweden'. 'Though the American company has so far no specific customer in hand but it has offered us to promote the aircraft in the up-coming aerospace exhibitions which will be held in NBA and Oshcash, USA. The company will also look out for publicity and help us reduce the price of the aircraft', he noted.

He said that the Demo Corporation is an aviation consultancy, marketing and manufacturing aviation hardware. 'They are looking for higher aircraft and the Super Mushshak is their priority', he maintained.

About the finalisation of deal with the American company Younas said: "We have given them an extremely useful presentation. Now we will seriously consider their proposals and respond within four week after discussing the matter back home.'

Pertinent to mention here that US had imposed military sanctions against Pakistan under the Pressler Amendment which bans military assistance to countries believed to have nuclear programmes. And due to this law, as many as 28 F-16 fighter jets fully paid for by Pakistan are still dumped in the deserts of Arizona since 1991.

Asked if the 1984 Pressler Amendment would affect this deal, Younas said: 'The Pressler Amendment will not affect this deal, if struck, because the aircraft falls in the FAA Part-3 category (single engine light aircraft category which is not affected by the said law)'.

To another question, he said that the Super Mushshak would be used by the private flying clubs in USA and elsewhere for training purposes.

Oman, Saudi Arabia and Yemen have also showed interest in the aircraft at the Dubai '97 and negotiations were going on to finalise the deals. It can be a very suitable aircraft for the UAE Air Force in place of existing fleet of Groub, German aircraft, a brand new design which has not yet been tried by International customer, Younas observed, adding that Super Mushshaq would also be far cheaper than the Groub aircraft.

Super Mushshak is the improved version of Mushshak aircraft which is currently being used by Oman, Syria, Iran, Zimbabwe, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Pakistan.

So far the AMF has produced two such aircraft whereas five more will be ready by the end of this year. 'Pakistan Air Force will be its first customer', he said.

The two/three-seat trainer and military utility aircraft, Super Mushshak's maximum speed is now 145 kt compared to the earlier 128 kt with the rate of climb increasing to 1,700 fpm compared to 1,024 fpm.

Cruise speed is 130 kt, stall 52 kt and the service ceiling is 24,000 ft. and time to 10,000 ft is 10 minute.

Take off distance is 50 ft to 900 ft and the take off roll distance is 600 ft. Payload is increased to 880 lb in the new aircraft with up to 660 lb on the aircraft's six underwing mounts and another 220 lb in the rear cabin instead of a third seat.

First flying on Pakistan's Independence Day, August 14, 1996, the prototype Super Mushshak was joined by a second test aircraft last July. The aircraft is approved to perform steep turns, stalls and spins, four point and barrel rolls, stall turns, loops, hammerhead stalls and inverted flying. Chief test Pilot Faiq Ahmed demonstrated these manoeuvres each day at the Dubai air show.

The aircraft is built by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, a section of the country's Ministry of Defence. The Mushshak is built by the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory division which was opened in 1981 to build the aircraft. It currently employs about 1,000 people.

The factory also is involved in developing the Karakorum K-2 jet trainer in cooperation with China. It also repairs aircraft of up to 2,590 lb. The Mushshak is a development of Saab Safari/Supporter for which Pakistan took over production rights in 1981.

About 260 Mushshak have been produced. Sales include 25 to Iran, six to Syria and five to Oman, which may also be the first export customer for the Super Mushshak, with an order for another five currently under discussion. 'With the inception of Super Mushshak, the production of its older version 'Mushshak' will become slow and ultimately it will completely be replaced by Super Mushshak', Younas added.
please provide source link to this article and clarify what November year was it published.
 
US based company for marketing Super Mashaq

DUBAI (November 24, : What appears to be a giant leap for the Pakistan's aircraft manufacturing industry, a US based company has contacted the Pakistani officials for the marketing and sale of Super Mushshak aircraft, being manufactured at Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Kamra, Pakistan.

'A US based logistic support company, Demo Corporation, has offered the marketing and sale of the Super Mushshak aircraft in USA', said Air Commodore Muhammad Younas who led a delegation of PAF to the five-day Dubai International Aerospace Exhibition '97 which concluded on Thursday. 'If the deal is struck, we will be able to sell 100 to 150 aircraft in USA through the Demo Corporation', he claimed. 'Though it is a big achievement for us, we would certainly consider all aspects before coming to any final decision', he said.

'In fact, the Super Mushshak-395, a Pakistani student trainer aircraft's first visit to Dubai international aerospace exhibition proved to be a great success as a number of companies including one from the United States showed interest in getting the aircraft', disclosed Younas who is also the Managing Director of Aircraft Manufacturing Factory, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

'Demo Corporation has also offered to assist us get the aircraft certified to American standards from Federal Aviation Association of USA. So far the aircraft is certified by Swedish Aviation Association (SAA) from Sweden'. 'Though the American company has so far no specific customer in hand but it has offered us to promote the aircraft in the up-coming aerospace exhibitions which will be held in NBA and Oshcash, USA. The company will also look out for publicity and help us reduce the price of the aircraft', he noted.

He said that the Demo Corporation is an aviation consultancy, marketing and manufacturing aviation hardware. 'They are looking for higher aircraft and the Super Mushshak is their priority', he maintained.

About the finalisation of deal with the American company Younas said: "We have given them an extremely useful presentation. Now we will seriously consider their proposals and respond within four week after discussing the matter back home.'

Pertinent to mention here that US had imposed military sanctions against Pakistan under the Pressler Amendment which bans military assistance to countries believed to have nuclear programmes. And due to this law, as many as 28 F-16 fighter jets fully paid for by Pakistan are still dumped in the deserts of Arizona since 1991.

Asked if the 1984 Pressler Amendment would affect this deal, Younas said: 'The Pressler Amendment will not affect this deal, if struck, because the aircraft falls in the FAA Part-3 category (single engine light aircraft category which is not affected by the said law)'.

To another question, he said that the Super Mushshak would be used by the private flying clubs in USA and elsewhere for training purposes.

Oman, Saudi Arabia and Yemen have also showed interest in the aircraft at the Dubai '97 and negotiations were going on to finalise the deals. It can be a very suitable aircraft for the UAE Air Force in place of existing fleet of Groub, German aircraft, a brand new design which has not yet been tried by International customer, Younas observed, adding that Super Mushshaq would also be far cheaper than the Groub aircraft.

Super Mushshak is the improved version of Mushshak aircraft which is currently being used by Oman, Syria, Iran, Zimbabwe, Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Pakistan.

So far the AMF has produced two such aircraft whereas five more will be ready by the end of this year. 'Pakistan Air Force will be its first customer', he said.

The two/three-seat trainer and military utility aircraft, Super Mushshak's maximum speed is now 145 kt compared to the earlier 128 kt with the rate of climb increasing to 1,700 fpm compared to 1,024 fpm.

Cruise speed is 130 kt, stall 52 kt and the service ceiling is 24,000 ft. and time to 10,000 ft is 10 minute.

Take off distance is 50 ft to 900 ft and the take off roll distance is 600 ft. Payload is increased to 880 lb in the new aircraft with up to 660 lb on the aircraft's six underwing mounts and another 220 lb in the rear cabin instead of a third seat.

First flying on Pakistan's Independence Day, August 14, 1996, the prototype Super Mushshak was joined by a second test aircraft last July. The aircraft is approved to perform steep turns, stalls and spins, four point and barrel rolls, stall turns, loops, hammerhead stalls and inverted flying. Chief test Pilot Faiq Ahmed demonstrated these manoeuvres each day at the Dubai air show.

The aircraft is built by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, a section of the country's Ministry of Defence. The Mushshak is built by the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory division which was opened in 1981 to build the aircraft. It currently employs about 1,000 people.

The factory also is involved in developing the Karakorum K-2 jet trainer in cooperation with China. It also repairs aircraft of up to 2,590 lb. The Mushshak is a development of Saab Safari/Supporter for which Pakistan took over production rights in 1981.

About 260 Mushshak have been produced. Sales include 25 to Iran, six to Syria and five to Oman, which may also be the first export customer for the Super Mushshak, with an order for another five currently under discussion. 'With the inception of Super Mushshak, the production of its older version 'Mushshak' will become slow and ultimately it will completely be replaced by Super Mushshak', Younas added.
SO this proves the point PAF cant sell or market .Lets hope JF17 can find similar partner firms
 
SO this proves the point PAF cant sell or market .Lets hope JF17 can find similar partner firms

JF-17 certainly need a professional marketing company and it was not a big deal to establish one over the years.
we can't go into those exhibitions around the world with an aircraft and handouts with people who do not know how to talk. when they call JF a cheap option, how good is the impression a customer take about it, one can imagine.

we have seen several programs on JF on different tv channels and nowhere we found a single documentary in particular by PAC hiring professional media personnel that makes a difference.
the best we see is few good maneuvers and something coming out of dark with lights switching on, like something invincible has born.

a professional marketing team for JF must be independent from the influence of PAC or PAF although may have headed by a dynamic and professional minded PAC/PAF personnel with "related expertise".

however, hiring a professional marketing company is the best solution.
everybody knows a message to customer is delivered by a marketing team. a marketing professional will deliver regardless of the customer if he is relevant or not, he just delivers, which means doing their job.
but like a "does it all department" we are habitual of doing things randomly.
people do not realize what influence a good marketing team can bring to the customers and how disastrous it is otherwise.

there are several factors which a non-professional does not know when he deals with a customer.
 
JF-17 certainly need a professional marketing company and it was not a big deal to establish one over the years.
we can't go into those exhibitions around the world with an aircraft and handouts with people who do not know how to talk. when they call JF a cheap option, how good is the impression a customer take about it, one can imagine.

we have seen several programs on JF on different tv channels and nowhere we found a single documentary in particular by PAC hiring professional media personnel that makes a difference.
the best we see is few good maneuvers and something coming out of dark with lights switching on, like something invincible has born.

a professional marketing team for JF must be independent from the influence of PAC or PAF although may have headed by a dynamic and professional minded PAC/PAF personnel with "related expertise".

however, hiring a professional marketing company is the best solution.
everybody knows a message to customer is delivered by a marketing team. a marketing professional will deliver regardless of the customer if he is relevant or not, he just delivers, which means doing their job.
but like a "does it all department" we are habitual of doing things randomly.
people do not realize what influence a good marketing team can bring to the customers and how disastrous it is otherwise.

there are several factors which a non-professional does not know when he deals with a customer.

Good points. Compare the way Saab markets the Gripen and how PAC markets the JF-17. Clueless and out of touch military personnel with no knowledge of marketing are hired instead. Military knows best culture (even when they are just clueless and unpolished automatons) is a major challenge that Pakistan needs to resolve before it can transform its military industrial complex into export oriented and profitable organizations.
 
Good points. Compare the way Saab markets the Gripen and how PAC markets the JF-17. Clueless and out of touch military personnel with no knowledge of marketing are hired instead. Military knows best culture (even when they are just clueless and unpolished automatons) is a major challenge that Pakistan needs to resolve before it can transform its military industrial complex into export oriented and profitable organizations.

i wonder what would be the fate of JF blk III, does that machine deserve this cruel and unwise behavior?
 
Pakistan Air Force orders F-16 Simulator

18 November 1997

Thomson Training & Simulation (TT&S), a subsidiary of Thomson CSF, has been selected by Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems to produce an F-16A simulator for the Pakistan Air Force. The decision, which marks the 16th simulator produced by TT&S for the F-16A, was made at the Dubai 97 Air Show on 18 November 1997.

The TT&S simulator is a unit level trainer that provides air to air tactical training for pilots undergoing evaluation trials and routine assessment; it features a high resolution 3 channel visual system. The Pakistan Air Force is expected to receive the equipment in early 1999.

Graham McIntyre, managing director of Thomson Training & Simulation said, "This order further establishes Thomson Training & Simulation as a major supplier in the important area of F-l6 simulation and strengthens our relationship with Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems."

TT&S F-16 simulators are already in service with air forces in SE Asia, and deliveries of F-16 MLU devices to three European air forces are expected by the end of the year.
 
Pakistani Pilots Experience Carrier Landings and Takeoffs

ORMARA, Pakistan: As exercise Inspired Alert 97-2 took place in 1997, several pilots from the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) observed flight operations from the aircraft carrier USS Constellation (CV 64) off the coast of Pakistan.

The exercise is part of a joint-combined effort between the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps team who comprise Carrier Air Wing TWO (CVW-2), embarked on board Constellation, and Navy and Air Force assets from Pakistan. The purpose of Inspired Alert 97-2 is to improve the capabilities of both forces, raise their respective levels of readiness and interoperability, and enhance military relationships between the two nations.

"This is my first experience aboard an aircraft carrier," said Flight Lt. Khalid Masood of the PAF. "The deck landing was quite an experience. It was a different flying experience than what I'm used to. It was a great experience to do something with someone from a different country," added Boedeker. "Even though we have a lot of differences, there is a lot we have in common. They are very professional and experienced aviators."

"This is my second trip to an aircraft carrier," said flight Lt. Amer Altaf also from the PAF. "The last time, I flew an F-14. This was a great educational opportunity to learn more about how you (U.S.) do things."

Because inclement weather prohibited target practice, the PAF pilots and their U.S. counterparts performed other routine air operations. "We did an air-to-air tanking of an F-14," said Boedeker. "It was a great experience for me as well. This exercise is a good deal all around."

After the fuelling exercise, Boedeker flew with the PAF pilots as they took the controls of an aircraft. "We let them fly an S-3 (Viking)," he said. "They had the controls, but I was still there to oversee and assist."

"It was very exciting for me to experience and see how you do things here," said Khalid. "I was very happy to have the chance to fly one of your planes. I'll never forget the landing and takeoff."

Inspired Alert 97-2, which concluded on August 12, 1997 includes many evolutions designed to strengthen relations between the two nations. The lessons learned from each other will be as immense as the magnitude of the exercise.
 

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