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The Leading Power In East Asia Will Be Japan -- Not China






John Mauldin
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China will face serious problems in coming years… problems that will strain the Communist Party’s rule.

Japan, though, seems a bridge too far. Its population is less than a tenth of China’s size (and it’s not just aging… it’s shrinking). Japan also has a debt-to-GDP ratio over 229%.

So, how is it that Japan will emerge in the next 25 years as East Asia’s most powerful country?

A good place to start is a broad comparison of the structure of China and Japan’s economies (the second and third largest economies in the world, respectively).





This analysis will reveal strengths and weaknesses for both and will bring our forecast into sharper relief.

A look at China’s economy by region

The map below divides China into four geographic regions by contribution to national GDP. The data come from China’s National Bureau of Statistics. China sometimes uses these divisions to understand how the economy is performing at a regional level. (It must be noted that these figures are likely manipulated for political purposes.)
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The data contain notable discrepancies, in spite of which it still reveal much about China’s economic weaknesses.

The coastal Eastern Region accounts for more than half of all economic activity in China. The Central and Western regions each produce about 20% of China’s economic wealth. But let’s take a closer look.

The Western Region makes up more than half of China’s total land area. When compared to other regions, it produces less than half of what the Eastern Region does. And it produces the same amount as the Central Region, which is less than half its size.

The Northeastern Region appears to be an outlier. It accounts for just 8% of China’s GDP. Most of this region’s economic activity is heavy industry and has been under severe pressure as China attempts to increase internal demand and decrease dependence on exports.

What does this mean in practical terms?

Poverty is China’s greatest weakness

China’s biggest economic weakness… and its most potent enemy… is poverty. Regional economic disparities exist in many countries in the world. But in China, they have always been particularly acute.

China’s sheer size magnifies this problem.

In 1981, roughly 1 billion Chinese people lived on less than $3.10 a day (at 2011 purchasing power parity). The World Bank’s latest data (from 2010) show that the number dropped to 360 million that year.

That is a great accomplishment. The problem is that it is not enough.

China has been growing at a remarkable rate for the past 30 years, but that growth is slowing down. 360 million people still live in abject poverty.

The map shows us that most of China’s economic success is enjoyed by the coast… not the rest of the country.

China’s double-edged sword

China is the most populous country in the world and the fourth largest in terms of area. This is a source of great power, but it is also a double-edged sword.

There are great advantages. China can deploy huge armies. It is buffered from enemies by vast territory or harsh geography on all sides. It can also mobilize human capital like no other country.

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On the other hand, it means that China often spends more on internal security than it does on the much-vaunted People’s Liberation Army. It also rules over many regions that are not ethnically Han Chinese… regions that want greater autonomy (if not independence). And China must maintain a robust capability to guard its borders.

China is a formidable land-based power, but it has never been a global maritime power. It has always been susceptible to internal revolution, and at times, external conquest.

Now, let’s look at Japan.

Wealth concentration in Japan

At first glance, this map of Japan (below) seems to imply a similar level of wealth concentration in certain regions. Like China, Japan is informally divided into regions and sometimes reports data at the regional level.





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Japan is made up of four main islands: Kyūshū, Shikoku, Honshu, and Hokkaido.

Kyūshū, Shikoku, and Hokkaido constitute regions of their own. Honshu (the largest and most populous of the Japanese islands) is subdivided into five additional regions.


These five Honshu regions account for 87% of the Japanese economy. (About 43% of that economic activity comes from the Kantō Region’s seven prefectures.)

This map also separates Tokyo prefecture from the others to provide a sense of how much it contributes to Japan’s total GDP. Tokyo prefecture (by itself) accounts for just over 18%.

Factoring in the Tokyo greater metropolitan area increases this figure. According to the latest available data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (from 2012), Tokyo had the largest GDP of any city in the world at $1.48 trillion. (Seoul was second with a GDP of less than half of that.)

That means that greater Tokyo accounts for almost a third of Japan’s total GDP.

Japan’s advantage

Unlike China, Japan’s wealth is spread much more evenly among its population. On the simplest level, this is easier to accomplish with a population of 127.3 million than with a population of 1.3 billion.

But this is not strictly about size. What holds China back is the diversity that results from its size.

Japan does not have to deal with the type of coastal versus interior diversity that China does.

In the China example, almost every coastal province could be compared with an interior province and a similar gulf would exist. In Japan, only Tokyo is significantly above the mean per capita income of 3.1 million yen for the entire country, and that is due, in part, to the higher cost of living in the city.

There is wealth disparity in Japan to be sure, but the disparity is not on the same scale as that which exists at the provincial level in China.

Japan’s greatest challenge

Japan’s great weakness is its dependence on imports for food and raw materials. The country’s total food self-sufficiency ratio based on calorie supply was just 39% in 2015. Based on production value, it was just 66%.

Japan relies almost entirely on imports for staples like wheat, barley, corn, and soy.

Energy is another example of this dependence on imports. One of the main reasons Japan entered World War II was to protect its access to oil.

Today, Japan is still reliant on foreign sources of energy. Even before the Fukushima nuclear reactor accident in 2011, Japan relied on foreign sources for close to 80% of its energy supply.

Since 2012, that number has risen to almost 91% (according to the US Energy Information Administration).

Some will argue that Japan’s bigger problem is demographics. It is true that Japan has a rapidly aging population. But so does China. Most European countries also face this issue.

But Japan has options

Japan is one of the top investors in the world in artificial intelligence research, automation, and robotics technology in order to maintain productivity.

And while Japanese society is homogenous and relatively unfriendly to outsiders, desperate circumstances could call for desperate measures and necessitate changing policies on immigration.

The broader Asia-Pacific region also offers opportunities for Japan to find workers to address this problem.

A final comparison

Japan is the 62nd largest country in terms of area. It is the 11th largest in terms of population. But neither of these facts disqualifies Japan from rising as a regional power.

Unlike China, Japan has no land-based enemies—it is an island nation. Unlike China, the Japanese government has no concern about its ability to impose its writ throughout the entire country.

Nor does it have to deal with a huge gulf in wealth disparity between regions. Japan has also managed a transition from a high-growth economy to a low-growth economy without revolution.

Japan’s weaknesses have manifested in the development of a strong navy able to guard maritime supply lines. It has also cultivated a tight alliance with a country that will guard those supply lines, the United States.

To be clear, China is still a very powerful country relative to most in the world. As such, much of our writing remains focused on understanding how economic problems in China are manifesting in political challenges.

For now, Japan is less dynamic and important… though it will become more so… and our writing on Japan will increase as it becomes the leading power in the Asain Pacific.

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It's a biased article, but what are your views.
 
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That technological edge is eroding fast.
Yes as China rises on the world stage , Japan will become less important. Japan has a population of 127 million people. While China has a population of 1.3 billion people. Population counts as it means how much influence a country can have. Even India has some influence because of its large population.
 
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The coastal Eastern Region accounts for more than half of all economic activity in China. The Central and Western regions each produce about 20% of China’s economic wealth. But let’s take a closer look.
Eastern China provinces: Hebei (74 million), Beijing (22 million), Tianjin (15 million), Shandong (99 million), Jiangsu (80 million), Shanghai (24 million), Zhejiang (57 million), Fujian (37 million), Guangdong (109 million), Hainan (9 million)
Eastern China Total: 526 million people (37% of total population)
Eastern China as an aggregate is less than 50% wealthier than the average.

*There will be population rounding errors and some provincial data is out of date while national ones are to date.
The Western Region makes up more than half of China’s total land area. When compared to other regions, it produces less than half of what the Eastern Region does. And it produces the same amount as the Central Region, which is less than half its size.
Landmass doesn't equal economic production, most of Western China is desert and highland plateau. Western China provinces: Inner Mongolia (25 million), Xinjiang (24 million), Gansu (26 million), Ningxia (7 million), Shaanxi (37 million), Qinghai (6 million), Sichuan (81 million), Chongqing (30 million), Tibet (3 million), Guizhou (35 million) , Yunnan (46 million), Guangxi (47 million)
Western China Total: 367 million people (26 % of total population)
Western China is about 75% the national average.

Central China provinces: Shanxi (37 million), Henan (95 million), Hubei (59 million), Anhui (60 million), Hunan (67 million), Jiangxi (42 million)
Central China Total: 360 million people (26% of total population)
Central China is about 75% of national average.

The Northeastern Region appears to be an outlier. It accounts for just 8% of China’s GDP. Most of this region’s economic activity is heavy industry and has been under severe pressure as China attempts to increase internal demand and decrease dependence on exports.
North East provinces: Heilongjiang (38 million), Jilin (27 million), Liaoning (44 million)
North East China Total: 109 million (8% of total population)
North East China is at national average. I don't understand what the author means by "just 8% of China's GDP", it is inline with the population proportion.

"Let some people get rich first"-Deng Xiaoping
China is still in the early process of reform and development. For those that travel to China they know how fast the interior is catching up to the coastal regions. Only the North East has slow growth due to structural economic issues. The North East is also experiencing large population outflows.

The data contain notable discrepancies, in spite of which it still reveal much about China’s economic weaknesses.
The coastal and interior difference isn't a economic weakness for China during development. In fact it is what made rapid and sustained growth possible. After investment gets saturated along the coast does it make sense to develop the interior, which is happening now. Had investment been distributed evenly, today's growth wouldn't have been possible. The worst possible method would be to spread investment evenly and not leverage regional advantages to create supply chain clusters. Even development will make future growth weaker. In the long run it would be desirable to pursue even development but due to geographic issues, some regions would be depopulated to raise its per capita income closer to national levels.
 
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Still i am with china . Even i like japan but china is future super power .
Those are my sentiments too. China is a future superpower while Japan is not even a great power. The times have changed since WW2.

:cool: Why not China + Japan lead asia
With Russia
Not possible with Japan being an enemy to Russia and China.
 
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Those are my sentiments too. China is a future superpower while Japan is not even a great power. The times have changed since WW2.
Japan is good country a nice creative people but they cant be power they are soft power .i like them but china will rule they are leaders . 140 bn dollars defense budget of china is clear sign
 
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Japan is good country a nice creative people but they cant be power they are soft power .i like them but china will rule they are leaders . 140 bn dollars defense budget of china is clear sign
Japan still has a strong industrial base. East Asian nations all have a strong focus on industry. It is just that over the last few decades Japan's industry became less visible (B2B). They serve more as the higher tier suppliers for various industries. They make components and machines that make products instead of the finished products.

For the military industries, Japan is lacking for a nation of its industrial development due to pacifist policies.

China's military budget for 2018 is 1.11 trillion Yuan/$175 billion.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/04/china-raises-2018-military-budget-by-8-point-1-percent.html
In a decade China's military hardware would look very different to what it looks like today. Much of what China has in its land arsenal is mostly outdated and designed by old men. China had a multi decade gap in its military industry due to policies set in the 80s. Only recently is it recovering and many new systems are designed by people in their 20-30s.

Those are my sentiments too. China is a future superpower while Japan is not even a great power. The times have changed since WW2.


Not possible with Japan being an enemy to Russia and China.
Japan has a 40% larger industrial sector than Germany, it has more economic influence and industrial ability than individual European nations. The challenge for Japan is its vulnerability to changes in the global supply chain. It's logistics network is vulnerable due to lack of domestic resources. Thus it must play conservatively and not upset any nation that can threaten its logistics.

China is integrating Japan into its supply chain to boost its own productivity and product quality.
 
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Japan still has a strong industrial base. East Asian nations all have a strong focus on industry. It is just that over the last few decades Japan's industry became less visible (B2B). They serve more as the higher tier suppliers for various industries. They make components and machines that make products instead of the finished products.

For the military industries, Japan is lacking for a nation of its industrial development due to pacifist policies.

China's military budget for 2018 is 1.11 trillion Yuan/$175 billion.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/04/china-raises-2018-military-budget-by-8-point-1-percent.html
In a decade China's military hardware would look very different to what it looks like today. Much of what China has in its land arsenal is mostly outdated and designed by old men. China had a multi decade gap in its military industry due to policies set in the 80s. Only recently is it recovering and many new systems are designed by people in their 20-30s.


Japan has a 40% larger industrial sector than Germany, it has more economic influence and industrial ability than individual European nations. The challenge for Japan is its vulnerability to changes in the global supply chain. It's logistics network is vulnerable due to lack of domestic resources. Thus it must play conservatively and not upset any nation that can threaten its logistics.

China is integrating Japan into its supply chain to boost its own productivity and product quality.
Sir only military equpment and budget is not enough world see china challange usa too
 
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Yes as China rises on the world stage , Japan will become less important. Japan has a population of 127 million people. While China has a population of 1.3 billion people. Population counts as it means how much influence a country can have. Even India has some influence because of its large population.
japan will go into recession soon, its inevitable for population loosing countries...
there was time Argentina was super power economically
 
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Sir only military equpment and budget is not enough world see china challange usa too
China is advancing on all fields. Space(Space station, big rocket), communication( Satellite, Quantum, 5G) and transport(HSR and EV, battery)

This article by Forbes is just a propaganda beating the dead horse. Japan is history given the current trend. While China is future. Just like the hedge fund idiots who bet on downtrend of China and get their hands burn. Go ahead if they want to believe Japan is the future of East Asia.
 
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