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Bangladeshis are quite confident about their identity.... You are making yourself a fool if you measure them according to your scale.... Bangladeshis are muslim first... It is applicable for each and every muslim all over the world, they may be Bengali, uzbek, pathan, arab, sudanese whatever... They are muslim first.... Ask any indian practising muslim , he will answer the same...We are seperated from west bengal because we are muslims, we are seperated from pakistan cause we are bangalis.... .. We are bengali muslim, this is our identity.....

Dear....first with no offence..! as I don't want to comment on Bangladesh's identity problem in detail; but if one carefully study your past history he/she easily understands that people of your land have rejected both Muslim and Bengali Philosphical identities at least for "once" over other in past 60-70 years...and that's quite enough (If not complete) for outsiders to judge who you actually are!!

The irony is...most of the Muslims of the subcontinent are accepted "One language" as a representative and a medium of interaction between Muslims throughout this geography with a prominent exception of "Bengali Muslims"...and that's why majority's ideological and philosphical menter is "IQBAL" instead of "Tagore" and that's a big big difference between both mindsets!!!
 
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Dear....first with no offence..! as I don't want to comment on Bangladesh's identity problem in detail; but if one carefully study your past history he/she easily understands that people of your land have rejected both Muslim and Bengali Philosphical identities at least for "once" over other in past 60-70 years...and that's quite enough (If not complete) for outsiders to judge who you actually are!!

The irony is...most of the Muslims of the subcontinent are accepted "One language" as a representative and a medium of interaction between Muslims throughout this geography with a prominent exception of "Bengali Muslims"...and that's why majority's ideological and philosphical menter is "IQBAL" instead of "Tagore" and that's a big big difference between both mindsets!!!
see, this was the problem with pakistanis..... Let us define bengali muslims. Muslims with bengali culture.. .Islam had no problem with bangla language....... We are proud as muslims, we are proud as bengali.... If there were any law in islam forbidding any language other than Arabic, believe me Bangalis would be the first to reject their mother tongue.....
 
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Dear....first with no offence..! as I don't want to comment on Bangladesh's identity problem in detail; but if one carefully study your past history he/she easily understands that people of your land have rejected both Muslim and Bengali Philosphical identities at least for "once" over other in past 60-70 years...and that's quite enough (If not complete) for outsiders to judge who you actually are!!

Define Bengali and Muslim identities.

The irony is...most of the Muslims of the subcontinent are accepted "One language" as a representative and a medium of interaction between Muslims throughout this geography with a prominent exception of "Bengali Muslims"...and that's why majority's ideological and philosphical menter is "IQBAL" instead of "Tagore" and that's a big big difference between both mindsets!!!

Show me one verse from The Koran that forbids any "non-Arabish" like language.

In fact, Islam does not discriminate between cultures. It's a faith, not a culture. A culture based on Islam alone is not sustainable. Each and every community needs a particular culture.

On the issue of language in East Pakistan, understand that very few ethnic Bengalis actually spoke Urdu. Many of the high ranking government and non-government posts were occupied by West Pakistanis because of that very reason. Therefore, Bengalis felt discriminated.

Thinking like:

"Oh, 'Arabish-like' languages should be the language of Muslims only"

"Hindi and Bengali are languages of Hindus only"

"English is the language of Christians and Westerners only"

This is very crude thinking, and Islam does not encourage that kind of thinking. Hence, the very ideology was dangerously and fatally flawed.
 
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Define Bengali and Muslim identities.



Show me one verse from The Koran that forbids any "non-Arabish" like language.

In fact, Islam does not discriminate between cultures. It's a faith, not a culture. A culture based on Islam alone is not sustainable. Each and every community needs a particular culture.

On the issue of language in East Pakistan, understand that very few ethnic Bengalis actually spoke Urdu. Many of the high ranking government and non-government posts were occupied by West Pakistanis because of that very reason. Therefore, Bengalis felt discriminated.

Thinking like:

"Oh, 'Arabish-like' languages should be the language of Muslims only"

"Hindi and Bengali are languages of Hindus only"

"English is the language of Christians and Westerners only"

This is very crude thinking, and Islam does not encourage that kind of thinking. Hence, the very ideology was dangerously and fatally flawed.

Agreed you are very right on this matter.
 
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Ignore the trolls. Very nice picture thread mr. Farhaan. Mods, please make this a sticky.

Thanks. There is a sticky thread 'happy independence day all bangladeshis' ! I think mods should remove it and made this thread sticky under the tag 'Bangladeshi photo thread'. so that people from india and pakistan get a clear idea about old and present bengal......i do think many pakistanis are interested about their former eastern part as well as indians who have origin in bangladesh....
 
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Thanks. There is a sticky thread 'happy independence day all bangladeshis' ! I think mods should remove it and made this thread sticky under the tag 'Bangladeshi photo thread'. so that people from india and pakistan get a clear idea about old and present bengal......i do think many pakistanis are interested about their former eastern part as well as indians who have origin in bangladesh....

A picture is worth a thousand words.
 
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see, this was the problem with pakistanis..... Let us define bengali muslims. Muslims with bengali culture.. .Islam had no problem with bangla language....... We are proud as muslims, we are proud as bengali.... If there were any law in islam forbidding any language other than Arabic, believe me Bangalis would be the first to reject their mother tongue.....

Look…Who is talking….!!!

Just for your Kindly Information W-Pakistanis didn’t make “Language” as a measure of differentiation in the first place…..its East who is always looking scapegoats like this one as a point of agitaion and anger towards W. Pakistan.

I’m not talking about 2011 nor 1971….i’m talking about as far back as 1949 when Bengalis on Dhaka streets on coinage issue, I’m talking about 1952 again language movement by none other than East Pakistanis aka Bengalis. I’m talking about continuous blackmailing on this issue by your leaders. By taking Language as a weapon to assault so early when there are other thorny issue of refugees, security, defence…means Bengalis wants a separate identity against rest of Pakistan when there is a need of unity and one voice. If this blackmailing accepted from one race so early…their will be a domino effects on others and we are still a young country who wants to become a nation.

Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhi, Balochi, Kashmiri and many other accepted Urdu despite it’s a language of UP, India….only because majority of the subcontinent Muslims agreed upon it otherwise…its not our mother language either!!!!

2ndly by just accepting it as a medium of interaction doesn’t means we forgo our respective mother languages….altogether….Its only Bengalis who thinks like that…bcz of their poor leaders and the mindsets I discuss above!!!

Lastly, We West Pakistanis sacrifices even our language for the Unity of Muslim Nation of the Subcontinent and that’s the proof of our belief in Pakistan’s Ideology and Ummah to the core, What Bengalis did and still doing in this respect is history.
 
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Portrait of two women taken by an unknown photographer in the early 1860s

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Portrait of nine snake charmers posed with their pipes, baskets and sacks containing the snakes 1860

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Group of Men probably from Agricultural Castes - Eastern Bengal 1860's

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Viceroy Curzon's Escort at Dhaka in 1904

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Portrait of a Man Benloging to Kayasth Caste (Hindu Writer Caste) - Eastern Bengal 1860

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Portrait of a Kulin Brahman (High Caste Priest) - Eastern Bengal 1860's

The Kulin Brahmans were a branch of the Hindu priestly class in Bengal whose social organisation included a well-established system of polygamy, where one man could take as many wives as he wished. The contemporary records of James Wise in his 'Notes on the Races of Eastern Bengal' records that the marriage of a daughter into a reputable Kulin family meant a raise in social standing and public esteem for her family. A noted colony of Kulin Brahmans was based at Lakshmipasa, in the Jessore District


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a reputed hermaphrodite (Hijra) and companions - Eastern Bengal 1860's

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Portrait of a Man Belonging to the Chandal or Namasudra Caste (Ghasi sub-caste) 2 - Eastern Bengal 1860

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Portrait of a Man Belonging to the Chandal or Namasudra Caste (Ghasi sub-caste) - Eastern Bengal 1860

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Darwash (Dhara Wala) with tambourine-like instruments - Eastern Bengal 1860's

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Dandi Sanyasi, a Hindu ascetic - Eastern Bengal 1860's

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Two Male Musicians and Two Female Dancers - Eastern Bengal 1860

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Group of Musicians and Dancers, Eastern Bengal 1860's


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[/COLOR]A bengal woman 1870

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August 4, 1962, 8:00 a.m., Chittagong, Bangladesh --- Refueling Fokker Friendship Airplane at Chittagong,Bangladesh,

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Station Sign at Naryanganj
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Written in Bengali !!!!! So Pakistan not allowing Bengali was after all a lie :)
 
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