Officer among 4 BSF personnel killed in Pakistan Rangers firing

[Trango Towers]

Very sad indeed. But occupation has a price

 

[Areesh]

For TTP, I thought your Army's 'Zarb E Azb" had already finished them off? But my bad, so it turns out that Pak Army haven't been able to do that either.

Funny you say that even though you yourself are fighting maoists since 1967, Kashmiri militants since 1988 at least and North East militants like Manipur since 70's

 

[Psychic]

Isn’t the correct term ‘Line of control’ rather than ‘International Border’ in J&K, given that it is disputed territory?

Sialkot-Jammu border is known as working boundary, not LOC or IB. Rangers from Pak and BSF from India man the working boundary, not regulars.

 

[Kuru]

Funny you say that even though you yourself are fighting maoists since 1967, Kashmiri militants since 1988 at least and North East militants like Manipur since 70's

Yes but we never said that we have been successful in eliminating all of them (And if we did, it is simply stupid).

You on the other hand said this:
Operation Zarb-e-Azb: Two years of success
https://nation.com.pk/06-Sep-2016/operation-zarb-e-azb-two-years-of-success

So now why claim that India is firing at the border to give breather to the TTP terrorists? That is the point I made in my previous post which you quoted.

 

[Areesh]

Yes but we never said that we have been successful in eliminating all of them (And if we did, it is simply stupid).

You on the other hand said this:
Operation Zarb-e-Azb: Two years of success
https://nation.com.pk/06-Sep-2016/operation-zarb-e-azb-two-years-of-success

So now why claim that India is firing at the border to give breather to the TTP terrorists? That is the point I made in my previous post which you quoted.

Why didn't you claim? Don't you have the "mighty" Indian army to do that? Or are you okay with fighting militants for decades after decades?

TTP has been kicked out of Pakistani territory which they controlled completely just few years ago. They have now taken refuge in lawless regions of Afghanistan and use porous border to attack Pakistani troops and civilians. More or less Pakistan has managed to get great success against TTP. Something unprecedented in this region.

 

[Kuru]

Why didn't you claim? Don't you have the "mighty" Indian army to do that? Or are you okay with fighting militants for decades after decades?

I am sorry but I don't understand your argument. You asked me a question and I only replied and explained things in my previous post. Now you came up with some new set of questions which have nothing to do with what I was talking about. So let's just leave it here.

TTP has been kicked out of Pakistani territory which they controlled completely just few years ago. They have now taken refuge in lawless regions of Afghanistan and use porous border to attack Pakistani troops and civilians. More or less Pakistan has managed to get great success against TTP. Something unprecedented in this region.

Good for you. So now don't claim that India is firing at the border to give breather to the
TTP terrorists. My point still stands. You have a good day.

 

[Areesh]

I am sorry but I don't understand your argument. You asked me a question and I only replied and explained things in my previous post. Now you came up with some new set of questions which have nothing to do with what I was talking about. So let's just leave it here.

Well my questions are directly related to what you said. It feels like you are okay with fighting militants decades after decades after decades.

Good for you. So now don't claim that India is firing at the border to give breather to the
TTP terrorists. My point still stands. You have a good day.

It actually stands no where. TTP terrorists are present in Afghanistan and routinely try to attack Pak army and civilians by crossing porous border. And fighting with India at this point doesn't help Pakistan in any manner when it is also fighting TTP at Afghan border.

it is very simple to understand.

 

[saltyashell]

Wow , seems like north korea and usa will have to take a backseat , the pakistan and india borders are really heating up. 4 killed and its business as usual ? Guess life is cheap in this part of the world. The pakistani troops seem to be better entrenched as indian casualties seem more. Or the indian troops are more disciplined wrt the announced ceasefire.
Would be a war in many parts of the world.

 

[Kuru]

TTP terrorists are present in Afghanistan and routinely try to attack Pak army and civilians by crossing porous border. And fighting with India at this point doesn't help Pakistan in any manner when it is also fighting TTP at Afghan border.

it is very simple to understand.

Never knew that entire Pakistan army would have been deployed at the Afghanistan's border if there was no firing from India.

Now that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Areesh]

Never knew that entire Pakistan army would have been deployed at the Afghanistan's border if there was no firing from India.

Now that makes a lot of sense.

You are clutching to straws

Obviously Pak army would try to avoid two fronts as in situation that exists today. That is the point.

 

[Kuru]

You are clutching to straws

Obviously Pak army would try to avoid two fronts as in situation that exists today. That is the point.

But that doesn't make you vulnerable to TTP attacks now does it ? We don't have a war going on in Kashmir. So calling it Two Front is "upgrading it unnecessarily" when it isn't even required. That is also a point.

So saying that India is firing to give breather to the TTP terrorists still doesn't make sense.

 

[Areesh]

But that doesn't make you vulnerable to TTP attacks now does it ? We don't have a war going on in Kashmir. So calling it Two Front is "upgrading it unnecessarily" when it isn't even required. That is also a point.

So saying that India is firing to give breather to the TTP terrorists still doesn't make sense.

That makes things difficult for Pak army. Obviously Pak army might have to remove some troops from Afghan front and deploy them on indian border due to India's foolish belligerence.

It all makes sense.

 

[Kuru]

That makes things difficult for Pak army. Obviously Pak army might have to remove some troops from Afghan front and deploy them on indian border due to India's foolish belligerence.

It all makes sense.

If you want to believe that small Indian firing (which isn't even regular) makes things difficult for Pakistan army to deal with the TTP terrorists (at Afghanistan border!) then yes; it makes a lot of sense!

Now that also means that Pakistan army can't even deal with small Indian firings. Such firings have so much effect that - as a result - the TTP terrorists have a free hand in Pakistan!

Yes that makes lot of sense now.

 

[Areesh]

If you want to believe that small Indian firing (which isn't even regular) makes things difficult for Pakistan army to deal with the TTP terrorists (at Afghanistan border!) then yes; it makes a lot of sense!

Indian border firing is a regular thing now. In fact after surgical strike drama things were very heated at LOC and we had to move some troops from Afghan border to LOC. This happens all the time.

 

[Kuru]

Indian border firing is a regular thing now. In fact after surgical strike drama things were very heated at LOC and we had to move some troops from Afghan border to LOC. This happens all the time.

Sure if you want to believe that. It's good to know that Pakistan army is kinda weak to handle such small firings. Too week that it has to remove some forces from Afghanistan's border to the Indian one.