Officer among 4 BSF personnel killed in Pakistan Rangers firing

[Areesh]

Sure if you want to believe that. It's good to know that Pakistan army is kinda weak to handle such small firings. Too week that it has to remove some forces from Afghanistan's border to the Indian one.

Funny you are calling others weak after failing to fight militants in your own country after decades of fighting

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Sure if you want to believe that. It's good to know that Pakistan army is kinda weak to handle such small firings. Too week that it has to remove some forces from Afghanistan's border to the Indian one.

How is Pakistan weak? You slum dogs have 80 percent of your forces on our border. LMAO

 

[Maarkhoor]

I’m confused over some of the details mentioned by the IG BSF.
1. Isn’t the correct term ‘Line of control’ rather than ‘International Border’ in J&K, given that it is disputed territory?

2. I thought the LoC was manned by the Indian Army and not the BSF - the latter mans the International border which in turn is manned by the Rangers on the Pakistan side.

LOC means line of control
Working Boundary means one party accepted it as international border but other party lays claim over territory held by other. (Jammu Border).

 

[Kuru]

Funny you are calling others weak after failing to fight militants in your own country after decades of fighting

You're getting it all wrong. I never said that Pakistan army is weak. It's you who is implying that the Pakistan army has to deploy some forces from Afghanistan border to the Indian border because of Indian firing (which BTW isn't even regular). So what does it mean exactly?

 

[Areesh]

You're getting it all wrong. I never said that Pakistan army is weak. It's you who is implying that the Pakistan army has to deploy some forces from Afghanistan border to the Indian border because of Indian firing (which BTW isn't even regular). So what does it mean exactly?

It means that Pakistan needs to move its troops due to requirement at LOC. It doesn't in any manner shows Pak army weakness as you said.

 

[Kuru]

It means that Pakistan needs to move its troops due to requirement at LOC. It doesn't in any manner shows Pak army weakness as you said.

Some irregular small firings from india require additional troop deployments to LoC from Afghanistan border? Nah..I don't think we can agree on that one. And I say it just because I feel the Pakistan army can do much better than that .

 

[Areesh]

Some irregular small firings from india require additional troop deployments to LoC from Afghanistan border? Nah..I don't think we can agree on that one. And I say it just because I feel the Pakistan army can do much better than that .

Small firings already goes into thousands in just one year. Not to forget india's obsession with war which is something that can be ignored.

You can feel whatever. But we all know Pak army is doing the best. This thread is a proof in itself.

 

[jzeebravo]

Some irregular small firings from india require additional troop deployments to LoC from Afghanistan border? Nah..I don't think we can agree on that one. And I say it just because I feel the Pakistan army can do much better than that .

O mere bhai, listen up! Since 1947 till 2004 Pakistan Army never manned its Western Border, not a single Army unit was ever deployed in FATA and Levies and FC (Paramilitary) guarded the borders in Balochistan, Dir/Chitral, our entire regular Army had always focused on the Eastern front (your Western front). Now since WoT and Indian sponsored terrorism from Afghan lands, Pakistan had to deploy its regulars on the Western front which was of course taken off from the Eastern front facing Indian forces. At present, around 100k troops are deployed there. So when skirmishes escalate at LoC or WB, Pakistan has to relocate its assets from its Western to Eastern front in the anticipation of a bigger conflict. By keeping the Eastern front hot, India is trying to keep the Pakistan Army bogged down on two-fronts. This was common knowledge I don't know what made it so complicated for you to understand.

As for "irregular small fire from Indian troops" let me help your selective amnesia that not long ago in 2018 Indian troops on LoC were using Bofors on Pakistani positions. Artillery shells are not "small fire" unless you have a fetish of missiles and air strikes.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

We should kill 10 indians against our 1 civilian casualty

 

[Crystal-Clear]

That sounds like a good reason for Pak to start firing at the border. This way they expect India to call UN observers in Kashmir but that's never gonna happen. I can assure you that.

hmmm so you arnt going to put a neutral observers and want us to believe in your story . never gonna happen .

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@Kuru
One argument, in terms of Indian motive to initiate ceasefire violations, would be to take advantage of sympathetic Western voices internationally (and anti-Army voices within Pakistan) to perpetuate the narrative that the Pakistan Army does not want peace with India and continues to initiate hostilities against India.

 

[Kuru]

@Kuru
One argument, in terms of Indian motive to initiate ceasefire violations, would be to take advantage of sympathetic Western voices internationally (and anti-Army voices within Pakistan) to perpetuate the narrative that the Pakistan Army does not want peace with India and continues to initiate hostilities against India.

We can't prove that it's Pakistan who is initiating the fire (just like it can't be proved that Indian Army is starting the fire).

So there is no way we can convince "Western voices internationally (and anti-Army voices within Pakistan)" that it's Pakistan who is breaking the ceasefire. So I think this can't be the case.

Looking at the history, Pakistan fires to give cover to infiltrators. And it does make sense considering all the "political and moral support."

And after speaking to a couple of good members here, I do think that we too initiate the fire sometimes. No one is Saint here.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Get the new artillery guns along the border and give them a taste.

waiting.
those 4 were killed in retaliatory action after indian firing killed a civilian.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

India, Pakistan hold flag meet at Jammu border, agree to maintain peace

A source said that the sector-level flag meeting was arranged by the BSF and Pakistani Rangers on Wednesday evening at Zero Line of Octoroi border outpost following the killing of four BSF troopers in Ramgarh sector.


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Srinagar, Publish Date: Jun 14 2018 4:40AM | Updated Date: Jun 14 2018 4:40AM

India, Pakistan hold flag meet at Jammu border, agree to maintain peace
India and Pakistan agreed to maintain peace on the border at a flag meet held at Octroi post on Wednesday evening, in the backdrop of tension following the killing of four BSF personnel.

A source said that the sector-level flag meeting was arranged by the BSF and Pakistani Rangers on Wednesday evening at Zero Line of Octoroi border outpost following the killing of four BSF troopers in Ramgarh sector.


He said that DIG Frontier Headquarters P S Dhiman led an eight-member group of BSF officials while Brigadier Muhammad Amjad Hussain and six other officials represented the Pakistani Rangers in the meeting.

 

[Zarvan]

Another one bites the dust today