Obama whining a result of US decline

[Beidou2020]

Business partners do NOT equal allies. The US and China do a half trillion in trade every year. Does that mean we're allies? Who is going to support China in a potential conflict and when the going gets tough? Russia? Keep dreaming....The fact is China has no influential allies to speak of. As we saw China stumble *** backwards in their own backyard in the search for Flight 370, they have no ability to use foreign bases, which entangles China from a logistics standpoint. While China continues to bully its neighbors in the region, the US is gaining stronger alliances in the region by the day. The recent defense agreements and exercises just bolsters my position. The US is even set to sign a 25 year defense agreement with Australia this week.

The DF-21D is a very unreliable weapon at this point. For the DF-21D to be effective, it has to have space and maritime ISR assets to be able to target and engage moving ships across the vast expanse of the Pacific. China has not even tested the weapon against a moving target at sea which calls into question the reliability of the weapon. The US will also target those ISR nodes from the outset of a conflict, thereby leaving the DF-21D blind and useless. US commanders have also discussed countermeasures to target the "kill chain" of the DF-21D using electromagnetic warfare to deceive and disrupt its onboard sensors. To say we cannot counter the DF-21D is absolutely 100% false. The US is also continuing to extend our long reach with systems such as UCLASS, LRS-B(our next bomber), and weapons such as JASSM-ER, LRASM, and SM-6. We are also at the forefront of directed energy weapons. This is all on top of a huge black budget, where there is no telling what we have up our sleeves.

If you want to keep living in fantasy land, go right ahead, your not the first troll I've discoursed with. The fact is I've shattered your arguments, so have a nice day my Chinese wannabe friend.

Pretty much every Latin American, African and most Asian countries would give us military bases if we decided to build bases. No foreign military bases, no foreign military alliances and no-first-use nuclear policy are policies of China. If China reversed all those policies, the US will be crying.

The US has no counter to the DF-21D. In addition to it, we have cruise missiles that can be delivered from land, air, ship, subs. We have anti-satellite weapons that can shoot down every US satellite in every orbit making US communication and navigation satellites useless. We have cyber warfare capabilities that can crush the US. We have electronic warfare capabilities including EMP which the US has nothing to counter. We too are developing energy weapons. We have thousands of different types of drones that can be used for ISR, firing missiles, EW, etc. We too are developing a strategic stealth bomber called H-20. Our black budget is massive and growing fast. Our real military budget is 3 to 4 times the size of our official budget.

China has already humiliated the US military when our volunteer army managed to kick out the US and 13 of its allies out of North Korea

US decline is a fact of life that even the most brainwashed Americans will realise over time.

 

[betonamujin1902]

as you saying, China could crush USA by many ways.

It's very interesting.

USA could crush China by many ways 80-100 years ago.
But they did not do that. They gave you a free ride.

Now simply, there's no free ride for China any more.

 

[kawaraj]

as you saying, China could crush USA by many ways.

It's very interesting.

USA could crush China by many ways 80-100 years ago.
But they did not do that. They gave you a free ride.

Now simply, there's no free ride for China any more.

There's no such thing as free ride. You work hard you are paid well.

Life is such, Nations is as such.

 

[betonamujin1902]

There's no such thing as free ride. You work hard you are paid well.

Life is such, Nations is as such.

Great even that is not free ride, but harmless ride.

Not comfortable to hear someone threaten to crush others by many ways.
Sound like Kim Yong un saying. Err

 

[kawaraj]

Chinese way is always engagement.

Vietnam has been with China for thousands years, history is your teacher, try to read the real one, not the brainwashed ones.

 

[gambit]

Unbelievable how these peoples have to justify DIY by calling others immature.
Just because American/west has to do DIY because labor is expensive, therefore DIY has to be holier than thou.
Don't they know that division of labor is the backbone of modern society?
But when it comes to home improvement, because China is different than they are, then Chinese is immature.
The vanity of some people. LOL.

This has nothing to do with labor economics, kid.

Home ownership is the goal for 99.999% of Americans. For you Chinese, it is a relatively new thing, so what would you, a young man struggling to make sense of himself, know about the value of toiling on one's own property ? Those who have six-figures income, as in over 100k annual, will make their children mow the lawn before they hire someone else to do it.

Is it true that home ownership in China began in 1997 when the all powerful State Council allowed, or rather restored the right of, citizens to own their homes, thereby granting the equal freedom/right to sell the same as well ? You probably do not even know this fact. Before 1997, whatever the Chinese language may have for the word 'mortgage' is probably forgotten. A person is assigned an abode, not a home. That is -- assigned. You have no choice in the matter. You may or may not like the abode that stands in front of you but you have no choice. When I was shopping for my house, I am in a society where I can rightly say I was shopping for a home, not an abode. That is -- shopping. Choice. I chose where to live my life and how to live it. Home Depot failed to understand this part of Chinese life and the company failed in China.

Just like your friend, you failed to understand that what I presented is only one factor in the set on why social scientists considers the modern Chinese citizenry an 'immature' one. It is a comparison to the par that China's leadership wants the Chinese people to achieve. That par is the Western countries and metrics on what make a country an 'advanced' one.

As for vanity ? Compare to you ? You bet. I can say I am chefung jibei. Can you ?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Pretty much every Latin American, African and most Asian countries would give us military bases if we decided to build bases. No foreign military bases, no foreign military alliances and no-first-use nuclear policy are policies of China. If China reversed all those policies, the US will be crying.

The US has no counter to the DF-21D. In addition to it, we have cruise missiles that can be delivered from land, air, ship, subs. We have anti-satellite weapons that can shoot down every US satellite in every orbit making US communication and navigation satellites useless. We have cyber warfare capabilities that can crush the US. We have electronic warfare capabilities including EMP which the US has nothing to counter. We too are developing energy weapons. We have thousands of different types of drones that can be used for ISR, firing missiles, EW, etc. We too are developing a strategic stealth bomber called H-20. Our black budget is massive and growing fast. Our real military budget is 3 to 4 times the size of our official budget.

China has already humiliated the US military when our volunteer army managed to kick out the US and 13 of its allies out of North Korea

US decline is a fact of life that even the most brainwashed Americans will realise over time.

I laid out the facts on how the DF-21D can be countered and all I get in return is, "US has no counter to DF-21D." You see folks, I'm dealing with a clueless simpleton here. I feel like I'm debating a 12 year old. With 16 negative ratings and X number of bans it's clear you are nothing but a troll. Also, how many accounts do you have? I've seen several that rehash the same tired arguments, such as that silly North Korea line. It's eerily similar to a 50center. Ultimately, your not worth my time....

 

[gambit]

I laid out the facts on how the DF-21D can be countered and all I get in return is, "US has no counter to DF-21D." You see folks, I'm dealing with a clueless simpleton here. I feel like I'm debating a 12 year old. With 16 negative ratings and X number of bans it's clear you are nothing but a troll. Also, how many accounts do you have? I've seen several that rehash the same tired arguments, such as that silly North Korea line. It's eerily similar to a 50center. Ultimately, your not worth my time....

You are debating a 12 yr old, at least mentally. The DF-21D have been debated practically to death, everything from the technical to the tactical aspects of it. The Chinese members here do not have the intellectual honesty to admit there are holes in their arguments, that is why we see the usual schpeel every once in a while.

 

[xunzi]

Home Depot tried the Chinese market and failed. Not because Home Depot itself is a flawed concept. In America, 99.999% of home owners engages in some measure of improving their homes -- ON THEIR OWN. Hence, the do-it-yourself (DIY) concept that created Home Depot.

You tried to cast Americans as lazy, but in reality...

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444433504577651072911154602

Home Depot failed in China because the store's leadership failed to understand the IMMATURITY that is currently in the Chinese people once they are exposed to the outside world. The modern capitalistic and image worrying Chinese sees any kind of manual labor, even when for the sake of one's home, belongs to a lower class of people. So do not tell us that you Chinese do not care what foreigners says about China when what you say about yourselves -- as a people -- reveals to us by way of an example like Home Depot. In America, working on one's own home is a mark of pride. I wish I have skills beyond my garage door. But in China, apparently manual labor on behalf of one's own home to improve it, no matter how little by little and day by day, is a mark of shame. Better to hire someone else willing to lower himself to that class, no ?

Why is China the world's largest consumer of high end brands like Louis Vuitton ? Because the world's opinion is that the brand is worthwhile owning. If you Chinese do not care, the brand would not be making boatloads of money from the Chinese people. You boast about how you Chinese are 'sophisticated' enough to brandish luxury luggage and import Italian performance autos, but then turn around and say you do not care what others say about you ?

You are one of the most baloney guy I have ever see. Now you are bringing Home Depot. LOL Look, my friend. the city in China is congested. Home is small. Where do you expect them to store shitload of home building material? The "do-it-youself" is individual desire. Not all American build their own home. They hired Mexican or contractors to do the job. LOL If you want to know whether Chinese desire to build themselves, you must go look at village. Anyhow, I see it pointless to even talk about this. You let the professional build your stuff. That is the right approach.

 

[F-22Raptor]

You are debating a 12 yr old, at least mentally. The DF-21D have been debated practically to death, everything from the technical to the tactical aspects of it. The Chinese members here do not have the intellectual honesty to admit there are holes in their arguments, that is why we see the usual schpeel every once in a while.

You know what's remarkable? Beidou is not even Chinese! He's an American with German heritage.

 

[betonamujin1902]

long live with fact DF21D is unbeatable, that could help Chinese friends feel more comfortable.

 

[Aepsilons]

You know what's remarkable? Beidou is not even Chinese! He's an American with German heritage.

LOL ! Maybe he's the Tom Cruise of China? (Referring to Last Samurai movie)

 

[gambit]

You are one of the most baloney guy I have ever see. Now you are bringing Home Depot. LOL Look, my friend. the city in China is congested. Home is small. Where do you expect them to store shitload of home building material? The "do-it-youself" is individual desire. Not all American build their own home. They hired Mexican or contractors to do the job. LOL If you want to know whether Chinese desire to build themselves, you must go look at village. Anyhow, I see it pointless to even talk about this. You let the professional build your stuff. That is the right approach.

No one is talking about building a house from the ground up, although there are many Americans who are fully capable of that. Home Depot is about home improvement on the existing house. IKEA is about home interior and living comfort improvements. Each have a different business philosophy but both found out the same thing about the Chinese people: that they look down on any sort of manual labor even when it is on one's owh home. Home Depot may never succeed in China because of its DIY philosophy. But if you want to talk about being baloney, look in the mirror.

 

[JSCh]

This has nothing to do with labor economics, kid.

Home ownership is the goal for 99.999% of Americans. For you Chinese, it is a relatively new thing, so what would you, a young man struggling to make sense of himself, know about the value of toiling on one's own property ? Those who have six-figures income, as in over 100k annual, will make their children mow the lawn before they hire someone else to do it.

Is it true that home ownership in China began in 1997 when the all powerful State Council allowed, or rather restored the right of, citizens to own their homes, thereby granting the equal freedom/right to sell the same as well ? You probably do not even know this fact. Before 1997, whatever the Chinese language may have for the word 'mortgage' is probably forgotten. A person is assigned an abode, not a home. That is -- assigned. You have no choice in the matter. You may or may not like the abode that stands in front of you but you have no choice. When I was shopping for my house, I am in a society where I can rightly say I was shopping for a home, not an abode. That is -- shopping. Choice. I chose where to live my life and how to live it. Home Depot failed to understand this part of Chinese life and the company failed in China.

Just like your friend, you failed to understand that what I presented is only one factor in the set on why social scientists considers the modern Chinese citizenry an 'immature' one. It is a comparison to the par that China's leadership wants the Chinese people to achieve. That par is the Western countries and metrics on what make a country an 'advanced' one.

As for vanity ? Compare to you ? You bet. I can say I am chefung jibei. Can you ?

What I can't stand is the holier than thou attitude.

The logic is obviously flaw.
The market decides the price.
Manual labor is expensive in US. Not so in China.
And yet China where manual labor is comparatively cheaper, and somehow Chinese is the one that is immature and shun doing manual labor?

Division of labor is where comparative advantage could be utilized better. It is a better system economically.
Why would China that has a better system follows American DIY system?
You can argue that DIY is a cultural thing in American,
But then get off the high horse in lecturing how Chinese should live with their live since they have a better system economically.

Home Depot is just a poor loser looking for excuse.

As to the rest of the rant that reek of the same vanity,
FYI, China has one of the world highest home ownership rate in the world.
Running at 90% in 2013, much higher that 65.2% of your beloved US.

List of countries by home ownership rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what is chefung jibei?????

 

[gambit]

What I can't stand is the holier than thou attitude.

Then go look in the mirror considering the Chinese members' behaviors here.

The logic is obviously flaw.
The market decides the price.
Manual labor is expensive in US. Not so in China.
And yet China where manual labor is comparatively cheaper, and somehow Chinese is the one that is immature and shun doing manual labor?

Division of labor is where comparative advantage could be utilized better. It is a better system economically.
Why would China that has a better system follows American DIY system?
You can argue that DIY is a cultural thing in American,
But then get off the high horse in lecturing how Chinese should live with their live since they have a better system economically.

Home Depot is just a poor loser looking for excuse.

And I have argued so. Were you not paying attention ?

The criticism is that it is a cultural thing for Americans not to engage in manual labor in low paying jobs, without specifying what those jobs are and what constitute 'low paying'. Labor is cheaper in China ? Compare against American labor cost or as a ratio to available Chinese income to pay for that labor ? If I take my monthly income to China, I can live well above average in China, in labor to maintain my house and food for my table. Labor is not a transportable cost, as in you cannot take the laborer in China, transplant him in the US, and expect him to live on the exact same wage as he did in China. He can undercut other bids to some degrees but he cannot go so low as to leave him starving because other living expenses are higher in the US as well. Foreign manufacturers who are in China to exploit low labor cost to increase profits can do so because they can sell their products at different prices to different consumer bases around the world.

So if you want to say that the DIY mentality is a cultural thing, then why are you complaining that Western businesses have consistently found that Chinese looks down on manual labor is equally cultural ? You think these people cannot distinguish economic from cultural factors ? Home Depot is American. IKEA is Swede. Two companies along with other thousands of Western companies are wrong on what they found in China? No one is 'lecturing' the Chinese people on how to live their lives. If they want to copy Swedish designs with low quality Chinese copies, they get what they paid for.

And what is chefung jibei?????

It is a code phrase in Chinese matchmaking websites where men can quickly present themselves to prospective mates. It basically mean 'home and car equipped'.

What was it a Chinese woman on a TV matchmaking show said...???

China's Popular TV Dating Shows: For Love or Money? - TIME

"I'd rather cry in a BMW car than laugh on the backseat of a bicycle," Ma told her suitor with a giggle.

The US may have a lower home ownership rate than your China, but in the US, when a man buy a house, he and his father does not sleep one room while his mother and sister sleep another room, and the house have only one bathroom. If this Chinese man finally find a mate, he and his wife will sleep in one bedroom, his parents in the other bedroom, and his sister sleep in the one room that serves as a family room. This is often the situation in your China. So do not try to compare with US.

If you guys want to take joy that US living standards are declining, can each of you say that you are 'home and car equipped' as I easily said I am ? Until the Chinese people can match Americans at the same standards of living, and note your country is geographically similar in size as continental US, then I suggest you guys STFU about living standards and labor cost. Finally, educate your people not to help your kids to publicly urinate in IKEA stores.