What's new

Obama: US can penetrate future Iranian S-300 AD shield

Daneshmand

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Dec 5, 2014
Messages
3,109
Reaction score
43
Country
Iran, Islamic Republic Of
Location
Pakistan
US can ‘penetrate’ S-300 air defenses in Iran if necessary – Obama — RT USA

US can ‘penetrate’ S-300 air defenses in Iran if necessary – Obama

obama.si.jpg



However good Russia’s S-300 air defense system is, when supplied to Iran the US will be capable of dealing with it, President Barack Obama said in an interview to MSNBC. He mentioned the Pentagon’s incredible budget compared to Iran’s as proof.

The US objects to the upcoming deployment of Russian-made S-300 air defense systems in Iran and has expressed its concern, Obama said in an interview. “But as I said before we have to keep it in perspective.”

The president compared the $600 billion US defense budget to the Iranian military spending of a “little over $17 billion.”

“Even if they have some air defense systems, if we had to, we could penetrate them,” Obama said.


The delivery of these complexes have been pending for six years, Obama noted, stressing that “In fact, the Russians stopped it at my request.

“My goal is not to resolve conflicts and tensions in the [Middle East] region through more war,” he said.

“My goal is to make sure we can negotiate a deal we know we can verify that ensures Israel is safe and ensures our neighbors like Saudi Arabia and the Gulf countries are safe and that there is not a nuclear arms race in the region,” Obama told MSNBC.

Last week Obama downplayed the significance of S-300s being supplied to Iran.

“I’m frankly surprised that it [the ban on S-300 deliveries to Iran] held this long, given that they [Russians] were not prohibited by [UN Security Council] sanctions from selling these defensive weapons,” Obama said on Friday at a news conference in the White House.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed “grave concerns” at the S-300 delivery to Iran and phoned Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss the issue.

A statement released by the Kremlin noted that Putin “gave a detailed explanation of the logic behind Russia’s decision…emphasizing the fact that the tactical and technical specifications of the S-300 system make it a purely defensive weapon; therefore, it would not pose any threat to the security of Israel or other countries in the Middle East.”


Answering questions from the public during the annual Direct Line Q&A with Putin special broadcast on April 16, the president revealed that there was another country immediately bordering Israel which was denied delivery of S-300 systems at Tel Aviv’s request. If deployed there, the range of S-300 missiles would cover Israeli airspace, explained Putin.


Yet Iran and Israel are far from each other, so S-300 deployed in Iran cannot pose any threat to Israeli airspace.

"With the progress of the Iranian nuclear track - and that is obviously positive - we do not see any reason to continue to keep the ban (on the delivery of the S-300) unilaterally," Putin said as cited by Reuters.


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov pointed out that there is “no longer need for this kind of embargo,” due to the progress in Iran’s nuclear talks made in Lausanne on April 2. He reiterated that the 2010 ban “from the Russian side it was unilateral and voluntary,” and was aimed to encourage progress in Iranian nuclear talks.


The P5+1 world powers are preparing to resume negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran later this week, with a final deal planned to be signed by June 30.
 
Can they penetrate? Yes. But can they carry out the required objective with the penetrating plane? That is very hard to say. If they are aiming to target deep underground facilities, then their plane of choice would be B-2 Bomber. That is the only plane that has stealth and can carry the type of ordinance needed. But thing is that B-2's stealth is very outdated, if it gets detected, it won't survive a missile strike since it's not maneuverable at all.
 
Can ???

You mean S-300 isn't Iranian insurance policy against US air strikes ??But only other day they were crying and alleging Russia of setting up S-300s in eastern Ukraine.
 
No doubt US can penetrate any country's defense system. At this moment, there is no match to US military capabilities.

How many nations can fight such long, expensive wars as US has in Afghanistan?
 
They can used F22 raptors for SEAD ops to neutralise their defences and then follows real attack
 
We can double penetrate US carriers if necessary !!!


No you can not.

S 300 is a very potent system. The way to deal with S300 is to fire multiple missiles targeting S 300 radar. By Either the law of probability some missile may hit. Or expensive s 300 missiles shall be fired to neutralize each incoming missile, When S300 missiles are fully utilized and new missiles are fed into the system, The time window shall allow you to take out S 300 Radar. Another solution is MARV but is some time away.
 
No you can not.

S 300 is a very potent system. The way to deal with S300 is to fire multiple missiles targeting S 300 radar. By Either the law of probability some missile may hit. Or expensive s 300 missiles shall be fired to neutralize each incoming missile, When S300 missiles are fully utilized and new missiles are fed into the system, The time window shall allow you to take out S 300 Radar. Another solution is MARV but is some time away.


you know the primary job of system like Pantsier , Tor and ... are to defend long range missile system ... ( we don't have Pantsir but we have some other systems like Ya Zahra , Messbah .... even medium range system are going to do their jobs )

and if they try to carry SEAD operation against Iran that mean they just declare all-out war and its is not like a "surprise attack" anymore ...

for sure in time of war , we won't just seat and wait for UNSC to just blame Iran for a war that USA begin ( **** UNSC ) ...

anyway , Russia was going to use S-300 as a card to get some promise from west but look like this time , the west won't give them anything ....
 
No you can not.

S 300 is a very potent system. The way to deal with S300 is to fire multiple missiles targeting S 300 radar. By Either the law of probability some missile may hit. Or expensive s 300 missiles shall be fired to neutralize each incoming missile, When S300 missiles are fully utilized and new missiles are fed into the system, The time window shall allow you to take out S 300 Radar. Another solution is MARV but is some time away.

What are you talking about !?

Watch the video ...
 
So why are they crying about it?
Avoiding any expensive war...
Wanna to fight with iran like they fight with Taliban in Pk....American dream:lol:

No you can not.

S 300 is a very potent system. The way to deal with S300 is to fire multiple missiles targeting S 300 radar. By Either the law of probability some missile may hit. Or expensive s 300 missiles shall be fired to neutralize each incoming missile, When S300 missiles are fully utilized and new missiles are fed into the system, The time window shall allow you to take out S 300 Radar. Another solution is MARV but is some time away.
Iran will deploy 20 of CIWS to penetrate incoming stuffs to protect b-373 radar and launchers.........any probs ?...:azn:
 
Last edited:
Can they penetrate? Yes. But can they carry out the required objective with the penetrating plane? That is very hard to say. If they are aiming to target deep underground facilities, then their plane of choice would be B-2 Bomber. That is the only plane that has stealth and can carry the type of ordinance needed. But thing is that B-2's stealth is very outdated, if it gets detected, it won't survive a missile strike since it's not maneuverable at all.
It won't because it doesn't have counter measures on board.
(3m35s and on)
 
Suicide Mission: Why a War With Iran Will End in Another Defeat for the U.S. Military Machine – The News Doctors


On Hardball with Chris Matthews, a U.S. mainstream media program interviewed President Barack Obama and was asked about Russia’s decision on lifting a ban on the sale of S-300 air-defense missile systems to Iran. According to the Jerusalem Post, Obama said “Our defense budget is somewhere just a little under $600 billion. Theirs is a little over $17 billion. Even if they’ve got some air defense systems, if we had to, we could penetrate them.” Obama declares that the U.S. military would penetrate Iran’s defenses while ignoring the fact that the Iranian forces would respond decisively to such an attack. The U.S. military would not be alone in its crusade against Iran. Israel and Saudi Arabia would also join their suicide mission. Let’s talk about facts concerning Iran and how it would defend its territory from an invading force.
First, Iran is at least three times the population than Iraq was before the US invasion in 2003 which at least 1.4 million Iraqi deaths occurred. Iran is twice the size of the Ukraine. There are various estimates that the U.S. military would need at least 2 million troops on the ground to contain Iran which it does not have. The military’s drone and ballistic missile technology along with its Air Force would not come close to dominating Iranian air space because they will use their S-300 air defense missile systems which they will receive from Russia. Russia recently decided to lift its ban from delivering the missile defense system to Iran which can repel any air attack although the Iranian military already has its own defense systems. Iran also has the Khalij-e Fars anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM). The ASBM is a component of its defensive capabilities which is often called the “carrier-killer,” a solid-fuel, supersonic Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile with a range of about 300 km or 186 miles that carries a 1,400 pound warhead that can sink U.S. naval carriers. Something U.S. Naval personnel should fear.

A war against Iran would ignite a regional conflict that would specifically target all U.S. bases and its military personal with Shiite militias leading the charge starting in Iraq. The U.S. Embassy in Bagdad would be targeted regardless of Washington’s enormous amount of money spent (more than $750 million according to various estimates) to fortify it. US troops who remain in Afghanistan would also be targeted by Iran’s allies in the country. According to a 2012 report by RT news:

Gen. Hajizadeh explains in a statement this week that America’s continuing support of Israel is enough to associate them with any attack waged against Iran, even if the US has officially condemned any plans to put boots in the ground to dismantle the rumored nuclear program.

“For this reason, we will enter a confrontation with both parties and will definitely be at war with American bases should a war break out,” Hajizadeh says, according to a post on Iran’s state Al-Alam TV. Hajizadeh adds that among the US facilities that would be targeted are structures in Bahrain, Qatar and Afghanistan. “There will be no neutral country in the region,” Hajizadeh says. “To us, these bases are equal to US soil.”

During an U.S. attack on Iran, Israel would most likely move on Hezbollah targets provoking a reaction that will ignite another war. Hezbollah forces are quite capable of operating unguided and guided missile systems from Southern Lebanon. The total number of missiles and rockets that are in Hezbollah’s arsenal is between 40,000 and 110,000 according to various sources. They have short range Katyusha rockets operated by Hezbollah Special Forces launch teams which was used in 2006 Lebanon war. Katyusha rockets have a 30 Km or a 19 mile range which is capable of delivering at least 60 pounds of warheads right into Israeli territory. Hezbollah also has a number of missiles that can reach deep into Israeli territory. Syria would stay on alert as it continues to battle the U.S, Israeli and Saudi backed-rebels and other terrorist groups including ISIS who are trying to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad.

A War with Iran would Bankrupt the United States leading to its Greatest Depression

Russia would sit back for a short time and ready their forces as NATO becomes more aggressive on its borders with its war games. At the same, Putin is strategizing Russia’s economy with its partners by using the sanctions imposed by the West by moving away from the U.S. financial system. It is estimated that the U.S. war in Iraq costs more than $3 trillion with over 4,400 deaths and more than 33,000 wounded military personal. A war with Iran would be at least triple the costs given the size and its defense capabilities with a military force of at least 1.5 million personnel. The cost would amount to $10 trillion which would have to be borrowed and in the long run would bankrupt the U.S. mainland leading to a Great Depression. The total U.S. debt would reach $30 trillion. The war hawks and its cronies in the Military-Industrial Complex would profit as middle class Americans and small businesses would pay the ultimate price of an economic meltdown that will be much worse than the 2008 financial crisis. The U.S. will eventually default on its debt obligations. What would Washington do after they default, ask the world to lend them some money?

How Iranian Citizens would react to an Attack by the U.S. and its Allies

In 1980, Saddam Hussein invaded Iran with U.S. backing. What was the result? The U.S. and Saddam Hussein thought that Iran was weak because of the chaos that followed the 1979 revolution which was proven wrong. After a few weeks of the Iraqi invasion, there were more than 100,000 volunteers rushing to Khuzistan region in order to fight the Iraqi forces. The invasion made Iran stronger. The people will unite; it wasproven in the 1980’s despite its political turmoil. What makes Washington think they can win this war even with Israel and Saudi Arabia’s backing?

It’s Conclusive: the U.S. Military would Lose Again

The U.S. will lose again, just like they did in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. You can add several wars the U.S. fought that ended in a stalemateincluding North Korea and the Seminole Wars in Florida (the second longest war in American History after Afghanistan). You can add Iran to the list of victors. But the biggest loser in all of this madness instigated by Washington D.C. and its patsies is the American, Saudi Arabian and Israeli citizens who pay their taxes. Obama thinks that spending $600 billion on defense would assure a victory over Iran, but it does not matter because the Iranian people would find a way to win against the foreign aggressor.

The U.S. Empire is in decline along with its demoralized military personnel who are used as pawns in wars for profit and geopolitical control of sovereign nations. At the same time, politicians in Washington D.C. and their corporate and banking cronies continue to celebrate their record profits by smoking cigars and drinking Johnnie Walker Blue label scotch while the U.S. economy is heading towards a collapse. That is the reality. And that reality will sink in, if a war with Iran begins. Hopefully, peace will prevail in the end, but the war hawks in Washington will stop at nothing for power and control over the entire planet even if it means putting their military men and women in harm’s way just like they did in their past wars of aggression.
 
Back
Top Bottom