Obama: Iran to be very successful regional power

[The Last of us]

A regional power is the hegemon of the region, with the greatest influence and power over the region. Saudi Arabia would be considered the regional power. All the countries in the region would be considered regional players, as they are all battling to push forward their own interests against one another.

So by your own 'definition' Iran is not a regional power? How many more brain farts are you going to have today?
Saudi Arabia's only influence is oil and funding random sunni terrorist here and there. You call this power but not actually controlling proxies in most of the region. It seems your saudi masters have blinded your logic, if you ever had any.

 

[IRAN 1802]

a regional player is a country that has SOME PART in the region's policies, while a regional power is..........well a power
like:
players in a football tea, a regional player can go about bothering other players all it wants, but when it is slaped by the regional power it has to shut up loll

Cool story kiddo ,

 

[Hiptullha]

Saudi Arabia's only influence is oil and funding random sunni terrorist here and there.

Like I said before, Saudi Arabia isn't an isolated pariah state like Iran, which has extremely few allies. It doesn't need to spend years nurturing a terrorist group until it becomes a loyal obedient dog. What it's currently doing is removing a regime. Not creating a puppet state to serve its interests.

 

[mike2000]

It's comments like this that will make people doubt your age kid. UAE and Qatar are regional players? Are you having a laugh? Regional players my a$$.Funding terrorism does not equate being a player. They can fund sunni/wahabi terroists groups till their oil money runs out but that means zilch, it's all about control. Iran has proxies almost everywhere in that regional from Syria Lebanon to Iraq and most recently Iran is almost controlling most of Yemen. This is being a regional power, because Iran actually control these groups, this is not the same as Qatar funding ISIS because given the chance ISIS will invade Qatar.

Only people who are desperate start playing around with words. regional player and regional power are in most mind synonymous in their meaning. Next time before polluting a thread use your head and don't make yourself look like a kid.



Hi Mike,

Difference is quite big, Iran is an independent nation whilst the torks are basically NATO puppets.

Not really, Turkey is a NATO ally/partner, moreover Turkey benefits a lot from being part of NATO as it serves as a bulk/deterrent to any big power from messing with Turkey i.e Russia . that's without talking about all the military cooperation/technology Turkey gets from such a partnership. So overall it does serves Turkey's interests as well. So its not just a one way street of Turkey just being a puppet or whatever. Though its true NATO is still mainly controlled/led by the U.S foremost and Britain/France/Germany.

Secondly I think Irans diplomacy hasn't been that great. In geo-politics you don't always have to be overtly confrontational especially towards bigger powers. You need to find a balance and be flexible at times when your interests are concerned. Just like China and to some extent Russia (prior to Ukraine) have been doing. They both are considered the major threats/rivals to the West/U.S , but that hasn't stopped them from trading/partnering with us in many fields economically, financially,Scientifically, and even geo-politically. Politics is just a game(and a dirty one for that matter), and you should know how to play it. There is no morality in it(there never was one), so it doesnt matter how other regards you or what you have done/will do, as far as it serves your interests and helps advance your country then so be it. So Iran has to learn to be flexible/make concessions when need be, if it knows it will get much more in return. Nothing wrong in that. For example, Russia sudden intransigence/belligerence/agressiveness and open head-on/direct confrontation with the West/U.S has only led to it being sanctioned(yes a big country/power like Russia) and isolated, hence its economy is now in a free fall/recession, if it keeps going down this route of confrontation then i'm afraid it will drop down off the top 10 largest economies in the world less than 3-5 years from now as other emerging countries move on and overtake her. I'm even amazed at how Iran has been able to keep up economically with severe sanctions for decades now, Had even Russia been under such sanctions(like they are suffering from since the beginning of last year) , they will have been in a much more severe recession/freefall, than the one they are undergoing at the moment.
So Iran has to be more pragmatic and smart in its foreign policy, open confrontation/radical rhetoric against the west/U.S wont serve Irans interests/economy in the long run. So hopefully reason will soon prevail.

 

[ozzy22]

Wait a second, Iran will go forward forever and no war will happen to Iran, so be sad Pakistani.

Let me give you some advice if you don’t want to hear our opinion about Iran or anything else and if it makes you this emotional/angry then it might be a wise idea to leave Pakistan defense forum. Where in all likelihood they'll be Pakistanis commenting on many issues, including Iran, I know shocking isn't it.

 

[Hiptullha]

Let me give you some advice if you don’t want to hear our opinion about Iran or anything else and if it makes you this emotional/angry then it might be a wise idea to leave Pakistan defense forum. Where in all likelihood they'll be Pakistanis commenting on many issues, including Iran, I know shocking isn't it.

It's funny how every other nationality will love and support Pakistanis until one of them speaks out against them. Then, Pakistan is the epitome of cancer, a barbaric wasteland, a cesspit, a Saudi butt-boy and the slave of the Americans. These people don't realize that PDF isn't a hugbox.

 

[IRAN 1802]

Like I said before, Saudi Arabia isn't an isolated pariah state like Iran, which has extremely few allies. It doesn't need to spend years nurturing a terrorist group until it becomes a loyal obedient dog. What it's currently doing is removing a regime. Not creating a puppet state to serve its interests.

Iran is the most important Islamic country. Iran is not an isolated state at all. Western goverments have problem with independent countries. It is not our problem. We are a Shia muslim countey, we don't give a crap to western colonialist countries. Saudia is an dictatorship monarchic, a totally puppet regime is ruling there. As well for GCC countries. Almost whole of Arab countries exclude Syria and Iraq are dictatirship and puppet. Turkey is a puppet of USA too. We are an idependent country not an isolated country. We move forward according to our Islamic values, nothing else, try to understand ****.

Pakistan is obidient of USA too.

 

[The Last of us]

Like I said before, Saudi Arabia isn't an isolated pariah state like Iran, which has extremely few allies. It doesn't need to spend years nurturing a terrorist group until it becomes a loyal obedient dog. What it's currently doing is removing a regime. Not creating a puppet state to serve its interests.

I think it's obvious what your problem is. You're just another saudi worshipper.

Terrorists groups are those which the Saudis fund whom not long ago killed countless children in your own school.
This is saudi 'power'. They are just a dog for the American and you worship them, meaning indirectly, you're worshipping the Americans too. Next time an American drone is flying over your house, don't forget to bow down and pray to it.

Iran is isolated with respect to your masters, not the world. Iran is not only has the most influential/power house in region but is also the president (current) of the non aligned movement, which represent most of the nations on this planet. So much for the isolation.

Iran is ahead in space tech? All they did is send a monkey into space which is still debated whether it really happened. Turkey send surveillance satellites into space. Very few countries in the world have done that. Turkey has independent surveillance from space.

'Turkey send surveillance satellites into space.'

Turkey paid some EU country to make you a satellite which the Chinese launched into space. This is Turkish suppa powa?
tork, you've already been educated enough about Iran's space tech, the monkey launch shown below is something your kind wont achieve by 2050 minimum. It's debated whether it happened in torkey only., Here you are tork:

 

[Hiptullha]

Iran is isolated with respect to your masters, not the world. Iran is not only has the most influential/power house in region but is also the president (current) of the non aligned movement, which represent most of the nations on this planet. So much for the isolation.

How can you say that Iran has the most power and influence in the region when they share the region with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia? And there's nothing big about being president of the non-alignment movement. It changes every 3 years and even minnows like Cuba have been president.

 

[The Last of us]

How can you say that Iran has the most power and influence in the region when they share the region with Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia? And there's nothing big about being president of the non-alignment movement. It changes every 3 years and even minnows like Cuba have been president.

As stated to you already a few time, your saudi masters do not possess what is needed to be called a regional power. No influence, all they have is petrol dollar which they use to fund terrorist like those whom killed children in your country.
And Israel? Those people are barely containing Hamas and you call them a regional power?

I use the NAM because you claimed Iran was isolated. How are old are you kid? If you're incapable of having a proper debate then why start one? So far all you've attempted to do is go around in circles and each time doing so you've made your comments more brain farty.

 

[IRAN 1802]

Let me give you some advice if you don’t want to hear our opinion about Iran or anything else and if it makes you this emotional/angry then it might be a wise idea to leave Pakistan defense forum. Where in all likelihood they'll be Pakistanis commenting on many issues, including Iran, I know shocking isn't it.

Pakistanis troll against Iran, most of them are nonsense. Iran is an independent powerful country, not puppet of any country. Powerful, has petro sources for 150 years, developed country, rich culture etc...Most of Pakistani trolls against Iran is nonsense. I don't know why Pakistanis are jealous about Iran.

 

[Timur]

Iran is the most important Islamic country

you force me to say something about this iranian myth:

this is not really true it depends on your view of the world and and in witch way iran is important..
in islam way it is for mayority of the muslims very very unimportant because say about 90 % of muslims dont have the same beliefs..

It's funny how every other nationality will love and support Pakistanis until one of them speaks out against them

thats why we do not trust iran

 

[The Last of us]

Pakistanis troll against Iran, most of them are nonsense. Iran is an independent powerful country, not puppet of any country. Powerful, petro sources for 150 years, developed country, rich culture etc...Most of Pakistani trolls against Iran is nonsense. I don't know why Pakistanis are jealous about Iran.

Brother, inferiority complex leads to this. They have to try and make themselves feel better somehow and to forget the failed state they're from. Since Alcohol is banned in Islam, they can't drink to forget their pain so they resort to inferiority complex trolling.

 

[airmarshal]

That to is the first admission of thaw in relations between Iran and US. This thaw will put a freeze of Israel's ambitions against Iran. A good fist step for Iran and region in general.

 

[The Last of us]

thats why we do not trust iran

Who's 'we'? torks? You talk as if you people are significant or something?
You're at most a transit route for ISIS
Even Jordon is more significant in the region than you torks.