Nuke Iran will destabilise W.Asia, not in India's interest

[Edevelop]

Ok mate where are you getting this information?

-Aksai Chin issue with China is not a big issue. Both sides have good diplomatic and business relations. Doesn't matter what internet fan boys say India and China won't go to war over land.
-Kashmir issue with Pakistan is a well known fact and everyone knows it, the world also knows is to which side is sending terrorists.
-RAW supporting BLA, please don't give us such high credit, because if I am right you guys keep saying that RAW is a weak agency then how can it operate with BLA.
-Indian military wanting a base in Bangladesh, last time I checked they just wanted Bangladesh to clear out the Maoist leaders hiding in the jungles between India and Bangladesh.
- yes its true that at one point the RAW supported the LTTE, but later India took off its support and now LTTE is gone.
-Military base in Tajikstan, I don't see how thats a big issue, did we open it without the country's permission.
-India doesn't have 200,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. What are you smoking thats like 20% of Indian army.
-India helped with the funding of Chabhar port, so why would India not take benefit of the port. The main reason India funded the port was to get access to Afghanistan through Iran.

Forget everything. Just answer me two questions.

"What is India doing in Afghansitan?"

"Why Military in Afghanistan?"


How can you become nice guys when you guys have to build homes and feed your own 1.2 billion people, a large chunk of your population are still living in slums, don't have clean water, are illiterate, and don't have food to eat at least 2 times a day.

20% or something a little less of your army in Afghanistan does make sense indeed.
A few years ago, you had 700,000 fricken soldiers in just Kashmir!!

 

[Peacefull]

couple of years back I happened to come across four Sri Lankan’s Army officers who reveled that their country is passing through a Indian sponsored war with Tamils . They reveled that Velupilla Prabhakaran Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) Chief is one of the world’s most ruthless rebel’s leader. They also narrated me that thousands of innocent Tamils and Sri Lankan forces have been killed during last few years. Any how, those young army officers were determined to fight insurgency and their faces were revealing that sooner and later they would be throwing out insurgency from the country.

Still I remember that On 61 national day of Sri Lanka, President Mahinda Rajapakse expressed that shadows of terrorism have almost been wiped out with the last remnants of the cornered in a patch of jungle in the islands northeast. At that time, he further stressed while saying “I am confident that the Tigers will be completely defeated in a few days,”. Thus Sri Lankan forces played their final episode and have defeated 37 years old Asian longest insurgency and eliminated LTTE’s Chief Prabhakaran too. It was 1979 when LTTE has been established with the support of RAW. Sri Lanka even though made many efforts to resolve the issue peacefully but India remained fully involved in backing LTTE and never let the former allowed to go for negotiations. Prabhakaran who began his fight for a separate state for Sri Lanka’s minority Tamils slowly and gradually has became strong rebel leader and started struggle for an independent Tamil State. The Lankan Leaders were in the opinion that the situation much worse than what it was during the 1987. In 1986/87 full throttle have been imparted to the movement by RAW while establishing 32 LTTE training camp in Kulathur, Salem district, India, By mid 1987, over 20,000 Sri Lankan Tamil insurgents had been provided sanctuary.

A time came when probably Rajive Gandhi came to know about the real motives of Tamil’s leader. He asked his world’s notorious agency RAW to pull her hand out from the Tamils. Rajiv Gandhi also ordered the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF) to fight the LTTE because he realized that Indian government made a blunder while supporting LTTE. The Prime Minster stance was totally against the secret agenda of RAW and thus agency totally behaved opposite and deliberately helped in assassination of her Prime Minister through Prabhakaran. The LTTE chief was arrested but released on bail leaving behind a big questioned mark. Basically his bail was arranged by RAW to launch him again for attaining their mission of establishing an independent state of Tamil on Sri Lanka’s piece of land. Maddrass High Court though issued Death Warrants of Prabhakaran earlier but he never been apprehended by professional intelligence agency of India.

India has taken “U Turn “when she came to know that Sri Lankan forces are determined to up root their launched plan and Tamils started facing defeat continuously. The basic aim of India was to keep the Tamils away from the idea of establishing Independent Tamil State on majority’s area i.e. Indian Territory. For this RAW pitched them against Sinhalies and has bluffed innocent Tamils. The Indian Armed forces used to carry out brutality against Tamils and as per Web Page Under Construction Indian peace keeping forces (IPKF) never felt hesitation of raping Tamil’s women.

There are many officers like Lt. Col. Srikant Prasad Purohit who murdered and raped innocent women and Tamil’s male members of the families. I noted that LTTE and Taliban militants were using same technique while fighting against Pakistan and Sri Lankan Forces. Both were and are using human shields. It means the terrorists have been provided combat and explosives training in Indian and Afghanistan. “Suicide cadres are coming in front of troops in the frontline and exploding themselves,” military spokesman of Sri Lanka, Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara said. The government has always remained enthusiastic in waging war while handling LTTE despite involvement of India.

 

[Edevelop]

In 1989, the Kashmiris decided to take matters into their own hands that led to an armed revolt, which the Indians have been trying to crush through the use of brute force. Over 700,000 soldiers were deployed in Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), who have over the past 23 years martyred more than 100,000 innocent people, raped women and torched homes, shops and orchards, while thousands of Kashmiri youth are incarcerated. What’s worse is that India has tried to misrepresent the just freedom struggle as insurgency.
Official Blog Of Press Information Department: The Kashmir conundrum

According to some reports, by late May 2002 as many as 700,000 Indian Army and paramilitary forces have deployed along the Indo-Pakistani border and the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir.

2002 - Kashmir Crisis

 

[IndoUS]

Forget everything. Just answer me two questions.

"What is India doing in Afghansitan?"

"Why Military?"


How can you become nice guys when you guys have to build homes and feed your own 1.2 billion people, a large chunk of your population are still living in slums, don't have clean water, are illiterate, and don't have food to eat at least 2 times a day.

20% of army in Afghanistan does make sense indeed.
A few years ago, you had 700,000 fricken soldiers in just Kashmir!!

What is India doing in Afghanistan?

Answer: The Afghanistani government made a deal with India throught which India will train some of Afghani Army cadets. Secondly Indian companies are investing in infrastructure in Afghanistan so I don't see why there won't be Indians in Afghanistan.
Third the huge natural resource, which a lot of countries are bidding for including your all weather friend.

As for feeding the poor in India, there are already part of budget that is taken out yearly for that. As far as I know India is pulling millions out of poverty and eradicating diseases like Polio. So yes India is going in the right direction.

As for 700,000 were in Indian side of Kashmir, I don't see how we can just move 200,000 soldiers. India doesn't share an inch of border with Afghanistan, if you haven't noticed that then go check a map.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

no need of nuclear Iran. israel is not saying it will eliminate iran from world map.... but Iran did say it will eliminate israel from world map... also it is clear Israel just wants its own existence and if the countries surrounding it do not try to finish it then its nukes are never to be used.... but Iran may use nukes against Israel without any reason but just to eliminate Israel...

so Iran needs no nuclear weapons if it is not threatening the existence of Israel.

What a stupid logic..so since China has never threaten to Nuke India..why you make it then?..Hypocrisy.

 

[Edevelop]

150,000 Indian troops to Afghanistan? India's Vietnam?

This is from an Indian source from 2008:

150,000 Indian troops to Afghanistan? India's Vietnam? | Rupee News

 

[IndoUS]

150,000 Indian troops to Afghanistan? India's Vietnam?

This is from an Indian source:

150,000 Indian troops to Afghanistan? India's Vietnam? | Rupee News

All hail the Rupee news, the same news that has been banned from the forum.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Pakistan is mad with India, now if Iran say kiss good bye to use their road to access to Afghanistan..than then only short cut remaining for India is to fire a rocket accross space and try to have a safe landing.... make sure not to fall into Taliban's hand...LMAO

 

[IndoUS]

Pakistan is mad with India, now if Iran say kiss good bye to use their road to access to Afghanistan..than then only short cut remaining for India is to fire a rocket accross space and try to have a safe landing.... make sure not to fall into Taliban's hand...LMAO

The only thing is India and Iran have no issues with each other. Which is pissing of most of the Pakistani members, US wanted India to help with the sanctions which India denied. Simply because it was not enforced by UNSC, and US knows that if it goes to the security council then it won't get far because of Russia and China. So there you can see why people are here so mad about India working with Iran.

 

[timetravel]

What a stupid logic..so since China has never threaten to Nuke India..why you make it then?..Hypocrisy.

coz u threaten the lands of India..here India position is like Israel...

India does not claim more lands from u n Pak... India wont need nukes if China/Pak stop claiming Indian lands....

and u n Pak is like the other countries surrounding Israel who want to take over ISrael's land...

So Israel n India need nukes to protect their lands being taken over from surrounding countries..... whereas surrounding countries dont need coz Israel does not claim their lands... and is happy if its land which it holds at present, only what it holds, is given legitimacy by the neighbours...

try to grasp it slowly u might understand it.

coz u already taken over Akshai Chin and coz u also tried to take AP.(before India went nuclear) Similarly to countires trying to take over Israel land..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

They have no choice and so do we. If they fail, we are next; if we fail, they are next.

China has far more robust domestic politics than Russia.

Without Russia, China can still withstand against USA, but without China, Russia has no chance to withstand against USA at all.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The only thing is India and Iran have no issues with each other. Which is pissing of most of the Pakistani members, US wanted India to help with the sanctions which India denied. Simply because it was not enforced by UNSC, and US knows that if it goes to the security council then it won't get far because of Russia and China. So there you can see why people are here so mad about India working with Iran.

I agree normally you guys don't have issues each other but when come to Nuke. most majority Indians here are against Iran to possess it...is there a rational explaintion beside those hypocritical excuses?

 

[IndoUS]

I agree normally you guys don't have issues each other but when come to Nuke. most majority Indians here are against Iran to possess it...is there a rational explaintion beside those hypocritical excuses?

i don't get the big issue with Iran getting nuclear weapons. I guess mostly because if there is actually a war between Iran and Israel. Both countries have good relations with India. Israel is a big supplier of weapons, and Iran is a big supplier of resources. Both are needed for India's interest. Plus its pretty hard to make everyone happy.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

I am against any country having nukes, but for any country to say what another country should do considering that country has done it it self = hypocrisy.

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this thread should not turn into Iran v India because some moron(spice) made a moronic comment here or elsewhere.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

coz u threaten the lands of India..here India position is like Israel...

India does not claim more lands from u n Pak... India wont need nukes if China/Pak stop claiming Indian lands....

and u n Pak is like the other countries surrounding Israel who want to take over ISrael's land...

So Israel n India need nukes to protect their lands being taken over from surrounding countries..... whereas surrounding countries dont need coz Israel does not claim their lands... and is happy if its land which it holds at present, only what it holds, is given legitimacy by the neighbours...

try to grasp it slowly u might understand it.

coz u already taken over Akshai Chin and coz u also tried to take AP.(before India went nuclear) Similarly to countires trying to take over Israel land..

you talk Mc Mahon line is a blessing from GOD..our I should call colonial master's blessing...none of us (KMT or CCP) recognize that as final boundary settlement...so you claim that we're threatening your Land...when you refuse negociate...and take what an english man's demarcation as for granted...you call that fair????

What hypocrisy...you want Mc Mahon's demarcation decision but you don't want all english men to stay in India.