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Hey Abir, Rakhi Sawant talking is bad enough for the ears; her singing- oh God that can only be imagined.
Btw, you got something against "Dhrupad" ?:what:

I hope Dhrupad is the one where the sing monotonously for a long time. My sister is Hindustani classical lover and she has tried to make me one. Bad memories. :'(
 
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I hope Dhrupad is the one where the sing monotonously for a long time. My sister is Hindustani classical lover and she has tried to make me one. Bad memories. :'(

Actually ALL Hindustani classical music HAS to be sung (maybe monotonously) for a long time. LOLLLL.

A friend of mine used to say how can people sit attentively for so long and listen to somebody gargling.

But it is an acquired taste, i enjoy classical music a lot. If you ever wish to change your mind, let me know- i might feel motivated to share some great (and rare) music with you.;)
 
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Actually ALL Hindustani classical music HAS to be sung (maybe monotonously) for a long time. LOLLLL.

A friend of mine used to say how can people sit attentively for so long and listen to somebody gargling.

But it is an acquired taste, i enjoy classical music a lot. If you ever wish to change your mind, let me know- i might feel motivated to share some great (and rare) music with you.;)

I'm more of a rock/metal type of guy :p We have a good collection of Classical, lot of Girija Devi and Amir Khan, many others too, I don't remember the names. Amir Khan's kvlt voice is hard to forget! :D
 
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THen It shows you don't know how to deal with people if this is what you are :) Remember you started it attacking me on a previous thread. And the rolling here is it again.......

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It just shows I dont argue just for the heck of arguing and agree even if a person from a different religion says a reasonable point.Thats the difference in my mindset and yours.

And I dont even remember arguing,let alone attacking you.Can you refresh my memory please.?
 
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I'm more of a rock/metal type of guy :p We have a good collection of Classical, lot of Girija Devi and Amir Khan, many others too, I don't remember the names. Amir Khan's kvlt voice is hard to forget! :D

Girija Devi and Amir Khan,hmm. that figures, Girija Devi has a home in Calcutta, just as Amir Khan was extremely popular in that city as well along with singers like Bade Ghulam Ali Khan.

As for me, (now) i'm too old to rock'n'roll and too young to .......
 
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Actually I have more faith on people than members of parliament. We have two major parties from which a Prime minister could be chosen. BJP in it's current form can't afford a Muslim prime minister. Period. Congress will always revolve around one family.

Also all the drama when Sonia was about to be the PM shows that stupid people in large number can still alter country's policy.

Even considering Sonia's non-Indian background, a question still remains, if Sonia was a non-Indian Hindu, could it be more easier for her to be PM of India?

Technically if Rahul Gandhi is selected Prime Minister, he is a Muslim.

See Firoz Khan is father of Rajiv Gandhi and Rahul is his son. They continued the surname Gandhi only to win elections. I do not know what religion they follow. Plus Sonia is Christian.

For me it does not matter as much, I am slowly becoming atheist. I see religion is only creating problem.
 
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Do you think the muazzan (a person who say Azan) should go door to door of every Muslim house hold scattered in a city and then start giving azan without using loud speaker ????

Why the above does not happen in US-UK-EU-China¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

Lol
 
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Technically if Rahul Gandhi is selected Prime Minister, he is a Muslim.

See Firoz Khan is father of Rajiv Gandhi and Rahul is his son. They continued the surname Gandhi only to win elections. I do not know what religion they follow. Plus Sonia is Christian.

For me it does not matter as much, I am slowly becoming atheist. I see religion is only creating problem.

Feroze Gandhi was Parsi not Muslim. But it does not matter here as long as the guy who is our PM is honest and dynamic and thinks ahead into the future.

The topic is about personal freedom and I should be able to demand my right to a sound sleep... be it the local Masjid, local Temple or for that matter the local pan shop and dhaba n co.. they should have no rights to prevent me from doing so.
 
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If the law of the country says that loudspeakers cannot be used for a particular time period, then it is the duty of the citizens to obey the law.

I can imagine it can be irritating for people to hear it, especially early morning. I know this because I am sick of hearing the huge loudspeakers in front of our building for Ganesh Chaturti, Durga Visarjan, Diwali, Holi, Navratri, Weddings, etc. It goes on blazing for hours on end on full volume, enough to cause hearing impairment in people.

I would not mind putting a curb on loudspeakers for azaan if a similar curb is announced for all the other festivals, including wedding. Plus a blanket ban should be put on loudspeakers near Hospitals, schools,etc

@ people complaining - I do not see you people complaining about similar ban in many western and eastern country. Why not protest against these too if you are so concerned. Hypocrisy much?
 
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Girija Devi and Amir Khan,hmm. that figures, Girija Devi has a home in Calcutta, just as Amir Khan was extremely popular in that city as well along with singers like Bade Ghulam Ali Khan.

As for me, (now) i'm too old to rock'n'roll and to young to .......

You have to agree, Calcutta have this thing for Classical Music.

I hope you don't consider us rockers as 'Thick as a Brick'. ;-)
 
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Loudspeakers are not allowed in USA-UK mosques and such small country as Panama........so what if India banned this noise pollution of 7000 watts.

If I were you I would take these words back.

 
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You have to agree, Calcutta have this thing for Classical Music.

I hope you don't consider us rockers as 'Thick as a Brick'. ;-)

Nope, Music is Music is Music, even if it is heavy metal (i'd listen to that with ear-muffs on).
 
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Who was talking about noise pollution in UK ?

 
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FAITH UNDER FIRE

Court blasts city's ban on sound of church bells
Ordinance violates 1st, 14th Amendments to Constitution

A federal judge in Arizona has struck down a Phoenix noise ordinance against sounds generated by religious worship – settling one part of a dispute that erupted when city officials convicted a bishop and sentenced him to a suspended jail sentence and several years of probation because someone complained about the ringing of his church bells.

"Churches shouldn't be targeted and punished for ringing their bells as a public expression of faith that's been done for centuries," said Erik Stanley, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, which worked on the case.

"The federal court has made the right decision by declaring that the city's noise ordinance violates the First and Fourteenth Amendments," he said.

The federal judge, Susan R. Bolton, ruled that the city's ordinance was being used to prohibit "sound generated in the course of religious expression," even while it contained an exemption for ice-cream trucks to blare their promotions.

The case had been brought by St. Mark Roman Catholic Parish, Christ the King Liturgical Charismatic Church and First Christian Church. The court earlier issued a temporary order and today made that permanent.

"It is ordered granting plaintiffs' request for a permanent injunction, and permanently enjoining Defendant City of Phoenix from enforcing the Noise Ordinance … against any sound generated in the course of religious expression," the order said.

"It is further ordered granting plaintiffs' request for a declaratory judgment, declaring that the Noise Ordinance … when enforced against any sound generated in the course of religious expression, violates the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution."

The dispute heated up when Bishop Rick Painter of Christ the King was sentenced to jail and probation in June 2009 for violating the ordinance by ringing his church's bells.

According to ADF, Painter's church had gone "to great lengths to compromise with the few local residents who filed complaints."

Then, said ADF, city officials notified St. Mark Roman Catholic Parish in August that ringing its bells could violate the same ordinance.

"Two representatives from the Phoenix city prosecutor's office and two Phoenix police officers visited St. Mark after one neighbor complained about the bells. First Christian Church has a very recognizable bell tower in North Phoenix, which it wanted to repair and begin to use, but it refrained out of fear of criminal prosecution. The churches filed the lawsuit so that they could ring their bells without fear of future prosecution and criminal penalties for violating the ordinance," the ADF report said.

Painter's conviction came after the bells were measured at 67 decibels at the nearest property line. The ADF said a whisper is 30 decibels and a normal conversation ranges about 60 to 70.

But the city specifically allowed ice-cream trucks a higher level of sound.

"When Painter was given a suspended sentence of 10 days in jail and three years' probation last June, the judge issued an order restricting chimes at the church to no more than 60 decibels for two minutes on Sundays and specific religious holidays," the ADF said.

The order removes those limits.

The ADF said the criminal case against Painter currently is on appeal.

The judge, in issuing the temporary order earlier, had wondered about the neutrality of the restrictions since the city's ban specifically states that ice-cream trucks only can play "pleasing melodies." They also are allowed to generate 70 decibels.

"The noise ordinance at issue here contains exemptions that require the enforcing party to examine the expressive conduct to determine whether it falls within … the scope of the law. For instance, to decide whether a public address is noncommercial, the listener must review the content of the speech. The so-called 'ice-cream-truck exemption' also requires the enforcing party to listen to the content of the sound to determine whether it is a 'pleasing melody,'" the court said.
"To enforce the city's noise ordinance, an officer needs to apply subjective standards (e.g., is a melody pleasing or not?) and listen carefully to the sound (e.g., is this a commercial address or not?). On account of the character of these exemptions, the court finds that the noise ordinance is content-based," she wrote.


Christian Legal Centre in the U.K. reported a "last-minute out-of-court settlement" that allowed a 600-member church in London to continue its worship.

The Lambeth Council had issued a noise-abatement notice to the All Nations Centre in Kennington, which prevented the church from using any amplification for its worship music and its pastor's preaching.

No allowance was made for any of the seniors in the congregation, some of whom have hearing difficulties, officials said.


Onn Sein Kon, case manager at the Christian Legal Centre, said the organization has noticed an increasing number of attacks on churches because someone can hear Christian worship.

"Regrettably, our caseload is increasing with councils issuing noise-abatement notices as a means of curtailing or closing churches in London," Kon said. "What is really going on here is action by secularists to try and restrict Christian freedom and expression in this country."

The legal organization said another church, Immanuel House of Worship in London, also has been "silenced" by the government because the sound of its worship drew a complaint from a single Muslim neighbor.

The Christian organization called Barnabas Aid also is reporting similar tactics are appearing in Africa.

"The government of Senegal has recently launched a campaign to close down a number of churches, on the grounds that their services are too noisy. Congregations that do not own their own premises are being targeted. Several have had their public worship suspended, and others are under threat," the ministry report said.




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Court blasts city's ban on sound of church bells
 
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