Now insult Bangabandhu or spread lies about 1971, get life imprisonment and pay 1 crore taka fine

[Nilgiri]

Bengalis never had a superiority complex....because we never got the Marshal Race tag from the masters...we were always pointed out as short dark fish eating weaklings....but what we did (and still do have) is a good brain for politics...not one single sane historian can deny the contribution and influence of Bengalis in the politics of the entire subcontinent...Be it congress or muslim league...we were everywhere....Bengalis in Pakistan never thought they were superior...they were openly discriminated against...they were poorer than their western counterparts....they always acknowledged it...now let me show you another version of history....Indians wanted to stay together in 47...Pakistanis wanted a separate Muslim state in 47....We wanted our separate place way before that...now see we got what we wanted...the end result is what matters the most...and history was on our side.

Maybe overall its true....but there definitely is one in this subforum (it doesn't include you, bilal and a couple others).....and there is an equivalent complex among people all across South Asia....it just takes the right environment/recent history to really bring it out in one group more than another (by luck of the draw really).....because of the manner in which something was done (two nation theory which East Bengalis were in love with inevitably succumbing to racial/ethnic/language/cultural based oppression....which they often paid back in spades during the 71 war against whole razakar/bihari communities).

That is something say large parts of India and (West) Pakistan have not experienced on receiving end to that degree. Thus the natural complex prevalent in the region (Easts Bengal) comes out way more in a defence forum environment because of the inescapable realities of what happened in just a horrible episode like 1971.

Hence it will take quite some time for the Bangaldeshi psyche among its more nationalistic elite to change to one more confident and forward looking rather than rooted in the past nightmare and complexes it evokes within.

Anyone would probably be the same in the same set of circumstances.

 

[Khan_21]

Listen Bangladeshis don't care about silly '71 war except few secular intellectuals in urban areas Most of Bangladeshi population is rural and are more concerned about providing for family than engaging in behes over silly matters like these. It happened some fifty odd years ago Most of them weren't even born then so they don't give a damn why or when blah blah blah

It was our internal matter could have been solved easily but we allowed foreign intervention so no point blaming
Plz stop portraying all Bengalees to be obsessed with '71. We aren't It was sharmnak event should never have happened We don't want it to be repeated We weren't khusnaseeb like Balochistan to share border with mainland Pakistan So forget this event We don't want to remember this event ever its lanaat

In my dealings with bengali's and living with them , they are still hung up on 71. Many of them have deep grudges and bring up the topic in alot of conversations. Your leaders seem to think otherwise. They are still hanging 90 year old men , building monuments all over dhaka , passing resolutions and what not. Sheikh haseena started weeping when BD won a match against us recently.

Its a national psychosis you can say. You really did a number on them in 1971....that shattered their notions of Bengal supremacy. They are only slowly recovering from it and are self-medicating extensively on all sorts of chest thumping to cover up the underlying condition that has taken real root in their social fabric

Its unfortunate on many levels. One would think 45 years would be enough to get over the whole thing. It has scarred their national pysche and created alot complexities in them

 

[Anubis]

Maybe overall its true....but there definitely is one in this subforum (it doesn't include you, bilal and a couple others).....and there is an equivalent complex among people all across South Asia....it just takes the right environment/recent history to really bring it out in one group more than another (by luck of the draw really).....because of the manner in which something was done (two nation theory which East Bengalis were in love with inevitably succumbing to racial/ethnic/language/cultural based oppression....which they often paid back in spades during the 71 war against whole razakar/bihari communities).

That is something say large parts of India and (West) Pakistan have not experienced on receiving end to that degree. Thus the natural complex prevalent in the region (Easts Bengal) comes out way more in a defence forum environment because of the inescapable realities of what happened in just a horrible episode like 1971.

Hence it will take quite some time for the Bangaldeshi psyche among its more nationalistic elite to change to one more confident and forward looking rather than rooted in the past nightmare and complexes it evokes within.

Anyone would probably be the same in the same set of circumstances.

Many Indians and Pakistanis don't seem to understand the basis of the Two nation theory in this forum....the Two nation theory did not mean or imply that there were supposed be Two nations(states) in the subcontinent based on religion...it meant Hindus and Muslims are two nations of people...if you read the resolution you will see how today's situation does not in any way contradict the idea.

See the word emphasized in apostrophes Independent States....that is what it was about....Having two or even if Pakistan broke into a hundred independent pieces today would still be inline with the theory and the resolution...If Bangladesh had joined India after 71 than it could be said the Two Nation Theory has failed...but it didn't...Bangladesh became a secular state with a Muslim identity.

 

[Rusty]

there was no Genocide committed in 1971.

How long did the war last ? Lets make it a large number of 12 months. And according to the Bangladeshi and Bharti authorities,
we kill what 3 million people?

That means the Pakistani military killed 8,220 people per day on average. That means we killed 342.5 people per hour.

Meaning people did not sleep at all. They did not eat. They did not go to the toilet for 365 days straight.
To reach the 3 million mark they had be constantly killing people every day without a break.

Must say that is an impressive feat to achieve. A military killed 3 million people without sleeping, eating or even toilet breaks.

Then lets not forget that when Mujeeb traveled from the UK he stated 30,000 were killed. Then he stated 300,000 were killed.
When he got to Bangladesh a few days later it had changed to 3 million. Amazing feat there.
In a few days the Pakistani military killed more then 2 million people. They must have nuked half the country.

any one with half a brain and grade 3 math skills will realize this is the end of discussion. But we are dealing with a supa dupa pawa and it's pet so no amount of math will help.

 

[Nilgiri]

Many Indians and Pakistanis don't seem to understand the basis of the Two nation theory in this forum....the Two nation theory did not mean or imply that there were supposed be Two nations(states) in the subcontinent based on religion...it meant Hindus and Muslims are two nations of people...if you read the resolution you will see how today's situation does not in any way contradict the idea.

See the word emphasized in apostrophes Independent States....that is what it was about....Having two or even if Pakistan broke into a hundred independent pieces today would still be inline with the theory and the resolution...If Bangladesh had joined India after 71 than it could be said the Two Nation Theory has failed...but it didn't...Bangladesh became a secular state with a Muslim identity.

Well I'm talking about the two nation implementation then. The theory itself has some merits (which I still fundamentally disagree with)....but the political manifestation of it has been a real damaging thing to subcontinent in the long run I believe.

It is that political side of it that damaged Bangladesh significantly....you were not in a loose federal alliance but a centralised winner takes all system. The implementation was terrible.

 

[livingdead]

told you.. people are becoming kiddish over time.

you will see shameless bdians saying India did this... we dont micromanage your leaders.. we cant possibly do.

 

[Zibago]

the 1971 war was propaganda

3 million did not die!!!!

1 million were killed by mukti dogs

 

[Viking 63]

hahahahahahaha., man these bangies of awami league never stops. !!! lol

 

[Thorough Pro]

Prime example of dictatorial democratic governments

 

[livingdead]

These days most of the crazy stuff you see will come from Bangladesh . As if stabbing each other over indian serials wasn't enough . Name me one country who is as obsessed over its independence as BD is over 71? Its like someone time froze them .

90 % of their life is spent on reading and researching 71 . And when they are not writing and reading about 71 they are busy building monuments for it . I have one bengali friend who says he wants to build a 71 storey skyscraper in honour of that war .

My request to Bengali's . Please move the hell on with your lives .

lol.. thats funny... but identity forces us to behave in weird ways.... the bengali identity of many bangladeshis seems to originate from the violent birth of their nation...
i doubt many in the world know about world mother language day... but most bdians do...

 

[Bilal9]

what more insult can be for this scum then he was killed like a rat in his home by his own army
on the day of pakistan independence ? we did not kill a traitor he face his own feat

Brother I'm no fan of the Sheikh but isn't posting dead/bloody images against forum rules?

 

[I.R.A]

What you said was Pakistani/Taliban proganada...If 3 million people didn't die,then where did our grandparents and great grandparents go? Introduce more conspiracy theories please...

Have you tried searching them in Karachi? You may try your luck if you haven't who knows they are hiding there.

 

[Bilal9]

Five pages of bakwaas (and counting) on useless national chest-beating, posturing and blather on scenarios that will never ever materialize...

Sometimes I think teaching you guys on how to deal with aurat log would pay better dividends than this hogwash....at least its a skill that will come in handy...

 

[Jf Thunder]

Mine were... great grandpa... technically he is my great grandpas brother. Father's side. Fought in the war. My dad was 5-6 years old...

great grandpa's brother? wait the war is hardly 45 years old, how did this even go into the third generation?
h should have been in the Pakistan Movement, which is 70 years old now..........even that is too early.
regardless he must be from the Mukti Bani then..............gg

Okay if it makes you feel better, choose another number. 300,000? 30,000? 3,000? 300? It really doesn't matter, does it?

20,000 (considered exaggerated by the Hamood Ur Rehman Commission Report)

1 million were killed by mukti dogs

true, the Mukti dogs even killed Bengalis loyal to Pakistan.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

my question is still there
how could 120 pakistan army men named by bengalis rape millions of bengali women?