Oh well excuse me, i did read somewhere that your Tejas was supposed to have been inducted in the 90s.
True, Tejas was to fly by 95-96, even though the project technically started only in the late 80s
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That itself should tell anyone knowledgeable about fighter aircraft timelines that it is simply
not possible.
Our timelines serve more as a challenge to us than to prove to other people of our capabilities.
You should look at when the Tejas' 1st prototype flew and when it was inducted to see if whether Tejas followed a normal fighter's timeline.
And considering how relatively inexperienced DRDO and HAL were, Tejas is quite an achievement.
True, except you Indians can't comprehend some facts like after some 20 years most aircraft are close to end of their service cycle while you are still undecided on yours outlook.
Incorrect, you are conflating the R&D period with the timeline post induction(service cycle) of the said aircraft and it has only been 2 years since Tejas has been inducted.
Also, we are quite decided on the Tejas, which is why it is inducted and more and different variants are to come, a 3rd and new production facility is being constructed, etc.
Actually, we wish to see most if not all of the IAF equipped with this futuristic masterpiece.
No wonder there's always an odd pakistani poster in a Tejas thread saying something along the lines of "this small thing happened, so now Tejas is doomed". Definitely not a Freudian slip at all.
Ah, now that the Indian has crawled out of skin and showing his true nature, suffice to say, if you Bhartis had a brain, you would be dangerous, I mean only a loser or a brain dead person would conclude that, JF-17 has no input from Pakistan but somehow it requires Pakistani Pilots and staff to market and display the aircraft.
Please don't insult everyone's intelligence here.
It is really disingenuous of you to pretend like somehow the near negligible "work done" by pakistan in the JF-17 somehow comes even remotely close to the work we did in the Tejas, hence my comment about pakistanis not knowing about what it means to develop a fighter aircraft.
In what capacity is pakistan even capable of doing any R&D on fighters?
What fighter grade wind tunnel facilitates are there in pakistan? How many new aircrafts have been tested in these facilities?
You got any rcs test facilities? Any IR test facilities for the same?
Have your aircraft design facilities ever designed a whole new fighter aircraft from the ground up?
What indigenous CAD softwares was pakistan able to develop?
What CFD tech were you lot able to make because of the JF-17?
Was pakistan able to develop quadruplex fly by wire after so many years post the induction of the JF-17?
What kind of composite research is going on in pakistan for the JF-17?
Any fighter grade turbine research organization in pak?
Any radar R&D organization in pak that can develop AESA radars?
To think that pakistan can do any meaningful work in any 4th gen aircraft without having the above is just ridiculous.
You Bhartis often say that you also manufacture the SU-30....well try to sell even a bulb from it to a third party and see where you stand.
Strawman argument.
Why does it matter if we can sell the Su-30MKIs or no?
The point we usually try to make is that we can manufacture a majority of the subsystems of a foreign fighter, while pakistan can't even do the same for something you lot call a "Joint-Venture".
And likewise, we have also developed and employed successfully, a handful of indigenous subsytems in the Su-30MKI whereas we can't say the same for pakistan and JF-17.
You are resting on the laurels of the chinese.