Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[Amaa'n]

Another video, civilians couldn’t believe at first that it was indeed a crash

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237648530820431872

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237633596778782720

@Foxtrot Alpha @Hodor @The Eagle @SecularNationalist

It does seem engine stall NOW

Just watch it closely, this is another video from a different angle.

Engine Stall but due to what? you are giving the immediate cause not the underlying factor....

 

[StormBreaker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237633124449820673

Yeh F16 tha ya Mushak ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237626056162541570

These wannabe jacka** experts should first watch the video clearly before tweeting shit

 

[Esgalduin]

He was doing a vertical dive . Either his starting height was low or he started the pull out late. The plane seems ok, it pulled out eventually.

With high G maneuvers, loss of kinetic energy is a very real danger at lower altitudes. Even if the plane had managed to gain a decent angle of attack pulling out of a controlled dive, there is every possibility of it crashing due to loss of energy. There are videos of a French Mirage and Rafale pulling up at the end of a loop under 100 feet from the ground and still coming within a couple of feet from crashing.

 

[iLION12345_1]

Best not to make assumptions until the cause of the crash is confirmed. Especially in a disrespectful way as many do. Inna lillahi wa inna illihi rajioon.

 

[Esgalduin]

These wannabe jacka** experts should first watch the video clearly before tweeting shit

Sadly, this is what happens when blind nationalistic pride replaces actually using one's own eyes to determine what sort of aircraft it is. Agar JF17 bolta tou samajh mein aata because Viper and Thunder appear similar at a distance to the untrained eye, laikin ye tou alag darjay ka knee-jerk reaction hai.

 

[PakSword]

Please stop assuming things unless you are a pilot and fly/ have flown a F-16 yourself.

The real reason will be shared with public after investigation.

 

[Esgalduin]

Upon performing the maneuver, in the last quarter, engine seemed to stall, and the small turn he achieved later on was purely due to flaps and NOT engine.

Write my words down, Engine issue is in play here, either an issue or pilot error in a sense that he didn’t go up with the required thrust to perform maneuver but this is highly unlikely for Wing Commander and A Trophy winner recently...

Be that as it may, it is not unknown for skilled pilots to lose their lives performing risky maneuvers they have done hundreds of times before. I mean, even a slight relaxation of the muscles could very quickly lead to GLOC, especially at the 7 to 9 G levels and at merely a few hundred feet above the ground. Your reasoning is indeed sound, but it is also plausible (with all due respect to the Shaheed) that human error or miscalculation amounting to a fraction of a second could be the culprit.

 

[StormBreaker]

Engine Stall but due to what? you are giving the immediate cause not the underlying factor....

Don’t know much deep about these things, but i do know that there are set parameters of thrust where one should perform so n so maneuvers.

But upon viewing the video again and again, especially this one

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237629873658757123

Pilot error seems the best explanation and it is inter related with engine.

Notice when the aircraft starts to lose altitude and a second later you hear less engine sound but just the drag (speed of sound vs speed of light, stall first, sound disappears later), at the last quarter either engine wasn’t working or maybe the Maneuver had a toll on the pilot, (unconsciousn)

 

[litman]

Not to forget, it wasn’t Block 52 on 27 Feb but an average MLU.
But the success was due to our Pilots, not some Aircraft or it’s variants.
Even with F-7, it was our pilots that outsmarted the F-22 pilot. What more can i say now !!

success was due to Allah almighty. i dont know when we will realise this.

 

[KhanBaba2]

RIP

 

[Esgalduin]

Please stop assuming things unless you are a pilot and fly/ have flown a F-16 yourself.

The real reason will be shared with public after investigation.

You are correct in that it is rude, arrogant, and ignorant to second-guess Noman Akram Shaheed's caliber and decision making considering that none of us are pilots but there is nothing wrong with respectfully discussing the various possible causes of the crash based on a basic understanding of how maneuvers like these work. These discussions about how this happened will not abate until an official report has been released, after which they will undoubtedly transition to why this crash happened. It is unavoidable.

 

[Amaa'n]

Don’t know much deep about these things, but i do know that there are set parameters of thrust where one should perform so n so maneuvers.

But upon viewing the video again and again, especially this one

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237629873658757123

Pilot error seems the best explanation and it is inter related with engine.

Notice when the aircraft starts to lose altitude and a second later you hear less engine sound but just the drag (speed of sound vs speed of light, stall first, sound disappears later), at the last quarter either engine wasn’t working or maybe the Maneuver had a toll on the pilot, (unconsciousn)

don't go by the sound in Vid, there will always be a gap die to time and distance variations......we can presume only at the this.It could be compressor stall, Engine failure due to FOD, poor service due to routine flights and exceeding parameters multiple times or G lock....
those saying it was altitude miscalculation need to consider the tact, Pilot in Question was an OC and a Wg Cmder.....f16 was like his baby......he knew what he was doing

 

[Invictus.inc]

Not to forget, it wasn’t Block 52 on 27 Feb but an average MLU.
But the success was due to our Pilots, not some Aircraft or it’s variants.
Even with F-7, it was our pilots that outsmarted the F-22 pilot. What more can i say now !!

You must be kidding me F7 outsmarting an F22

Not to forget, it wasn’t Block 52 on 27 Feb but an average MLU.
But the success was due to our Pilots, not some Aircraft or it’s variants.
Even with F-7, it was our pilots that outsmarted the F-22 pilot. What more can i say now !!

Where exactly did you get this info about an F7 outsmarting an F22
Kindly post an authentic link

 

[PakShaheen79]

Inna Lillah hi Wa inna Alihe Rajioon. It is double loss. F-16 along with a very skilled pilot. May Allah Almighty give sabr and strength to family member of deceased WC. Please recite Fatiah for departed soul.

 

[Mrc]

May Allah bless his soul