Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[Khafee]

Why the Orange dress ?

Fear of crash and possible ejection ?

Please edit your post.

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[Ankit Kumar 002]

Are the ejection seats on non upgraded Mirages Zero-Zero?

 

[Zee-shaun]

Pakistani pilots don't eject despite orders over heavily populated areas to save the civilians, they always prefer to give their lives for Pakistan and Pakistanis.

It didn't crash in a populated area.

 

[TaimiKhan]

We seriously need to look into these Martin baker ejection seats. Have lost too many pilots in these crashes. The survival rate seems very low.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Please edit your post.

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It is a question- no offense intended-

 

[VCheng]

Why the Orange dress ?

SOP for marine flights.

We seriously need to look into these Martin baker ejection seats. Have lost too many pilots in these crashes. The survival rate seems very low.

Who is responsible for maintaining these seats? MB or PAF?

 

[Khafee]

May Allah Almighty forgive his sins and give him the highest place in Jannah. May Allah give patience to his family and loved ones. Very sad news.

From what I have heard, he died steering his a/c away from populated areas, and saving innocent civilians on the ground, without any thought for his life. Despite the fact that an early ejection could have saved him. Nothing less than a hero.

Salute to you Sir, and your parents, who brought you into this world.

You gave the ultimate sacrifice. Your courage and dedication is commendable, you join a line of those few selfless heroes who gladly make the ultimate sacrifice for their motherland, without a thought to their own safety. It is because of selfless people like you, that Pakistan exists today. You will be remembered in the best of words, and thoughts, by millions. Our prayers are with you and your loved ones.

May Allah Almighty reward you the best of the best, from his endless bounties. May you eternally Rest in Peace.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Edited

 

[TaimiKhan]

SOP for marine flights.



Who is responsible for maintaining these seats? MB or PAF?

I think after sale services are provided but most of the maintenance meaning day to day would b done by paf guys with usual inspections by MB guys. A more insightful view by person with inner workings of paf might give a better idea.

 

[Khafee]

Why the Orange dress ?

Fear of crash and possible ejection ?

@TaimiKhan @waz @Jungibaaz @Aether @Irfan Baloch Kindly edit the above offensive post.

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[VCheng]

I think after sale services are provided but most of the maintenance meaning day to day would b done by paf guys with usual inspections by MB guys. A more insightful view by person with inner workings of paf might give a better idea.

A marine operating environment is not exactly easy on electronics and propellants.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

RIP, Really a sad incident losing any pilot is bad and losing a wing comander level serving pilot is great loss indeed. Pakistan air force have lost two fighter and it's more valuable pilot in just two weeks should taken care by the top brass to find out the reason and solution for this kind of incident.

PAF has almost 100% pilot death record in these crashes.
one of the usual line is that pilot tried to avoid the civilian population from the harm and in the end was unable to bail out and died with the plane.

but the problem with this narrative that it seems to suggest a lazy attitude towards finding the causes of the crash.
this problem of a pilot death has to be addressed. and training should be conducted over the areas where there is no civilian population so that if the pilot still fails to bail out then we know that delaying in bail out due to saving civilians was not the cause of his death

 

[Khafee]

We seriously need to look into these Martin baker ejection seats. Have lost too many pilots in these crashes. The survival rate seems very low.

You need a few seconds to eject, but when an a/c becomes technical, those few seconds are precious.

The first thought a fighter pilot has is not to save his life, but the lives on the ground, and this time and again, has cost a precious aviators life.

 

[Zarvan]

PAF has almost 100% pilot death record in these crashes.
one of the usual line is that pilot tried to avoid the civilian population from the harm and in the end was unable to bail out and died with the plane.

but the problem with this narrative that it seems to suggest a lazy attitude towards finding the causes of the crash.
this problem of a pilot death has to be addressed. and training should be conducted over the areas where there is no civilian population so that if the pilot still fails to bail out then we know that delaying in bail out due to saving civilians was not the cause of his death

You are using 40 year old Jets no matter How much you update them. They would still remain 40 year old and you are using them beyond limits or routine. What else you are expecting ? We need to increase JF-17 production also ask China to produce them for us. Secondly get 40 EuroFighter or SU-35 and if necessary than also get J-10 C to replace older Jets

 

[Mystery]

PAF has almost 100% pilot death record in these crashes.
one of the usual line is that pilot tried to avoid the civilian population from the harm and in the end was unable to bail out and died with the plane.

but the problem with this narrative that it seems to suggest a lazy attitude towards finding the causes of the crash.
this problem of a pilot death has to be addressed. and training should be conducted over the areas where there is no civilian population so that if the pilot still fails to bail out then we know that delaying in bail out due to saving civilians was not the cause of his death

I saw a video when PAF pilot bailed out during takeoff inside the airbase since there is no risk of civilian casualty, jet was extremely slow and low in altitude but pilot successfully bailed out with minor injuries.Which proves our pilots are well trained in every aspect of flying and other things but the real reason behind to save the civilian population is became a legacy since many older generation pilots do that to try till last minutes to save the air craft.

It is a matter of legacy not to eject rather than training or fault in a ejection system.

F-7 crash video

Another proof where PAF male pilot eject safely while female student not survive the impact of force during ejection.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch