Northeast India seeks secession from India and integration into China

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

NE India should be a SE Asia country. They should not be ruled by black people. wish them good luck to set up their own country

 

[faithfulguy]

NE India should be a SE Asia country. They should not be ruled by black people. wish them good luck to set up their own country

some Indians do not regard themselves as black people, but as brown people. Kind of like the same skin tone as Philipino. However, some Indian regard themselves as white people. They would go to storm front and talk about how they are white Aryans. And that they and the storm front folks should oppressed others.

 

[NirmalKrish]

NE India should be a SE Asia country. They should not be ruled by black people. wish them good luck to set up their own country

Nice going you racist prick, i would urge you to first shut your mouth and get your soy sauce stained teeth cleaned you slit eyed idiot. keep barking all you want because you ain't getting sh**. Good luck to china cause democracy is inevitable.

 

[Tractor]

NE India should be a SE Asia country. They should not be ruled by black people. wish them good luck to set up their own country

NE India not India I agree,but it is ruled by white people now.
Cucumber is green.

some Indians do not regard themselves as black people, but as brown people. Kind of like the same skin tone as Philipino. However, some Indian regard themselves as white people. They would go to storm front and talk about how they are white Aryans. And that they and the storm front folks should oppressed others.

Indian generally white people or we can say Aryans.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Are the chinese capable of having a conversation without talking about race?

 

[Genesis]

Are the chinese capable of having a conversation without talking about race?

You just said Chinese, racist much... lol, kidding. I agree talking about race is lame.

But here's my thing, this is a terrible situation, on the one hand this land is claimed by us, but on the other hand, we really don't want more backwards people in central Asia, who won't change for the times, and if we force them we are human rights abusers.

So let's just remain as we are now, India controls it we claim it and nothing happens forever.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

You just said Chinese, racist much... lol, kidding. I agree talking about race is lame.

But here's my thing, this is a terrible situation, on the one hand this land is claimed by us, but on the other hand, we really don't want more backwards people in central Asia, who won't change for the times, and if we force them we are human rights abusers.

So let's just remain as we are now, India controls it we claim it and nothing happens forever.

I have a question. Are the chinese generally glorified in history for no particular reason? I thought about why chinese consider themselves as a superior race and the explanation I came out with was that they are taught that many people succeeded in the world just because they were chinese, not because they were good at what they did. Is it true? Is China unfairly glorified in your schoolbooks?

 

[scorpionx]

What an appalling wastage of bandwidth with full of trash remarks

 

[Genesis]

I have a question. Are the chinese generally glorified in history for no particular reason? I thought about why chinese consider themselves as a superior race and the explanation I came out with was that they are taught that many people succeeded in the world just because they were chinese, not because they were good at what they did. Is it true? Is China unfairly glorified in your schoolbooks?

China up until 1830ish were the center of east Asia, we were always the dominate force. Look at Japanese, vietnamese and Korea, and any other non conquered, non nomadic tribes, look at their history and you'll see we have always been the super power, their culture is our culture + a bit of their own stuff.

The japanese kimono and most traditional stuff came from China and Korea, and the Koreans mostly learned from us and added some of their own twist to it. Before the japanese sent people to learn from us they don't even have written language.

When we were building palaces and empires during the LATE HAN dynasty, they were still a nomadic tribe, considered barbarians.

Their was the tributary system, where China was always the leader and second is korea, the rest is the rest.

We are the Roman empire that never fell.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

China up until 1830ish were the center of east Asia, we were always the dominate force. Look at Japanese, vietnamese and Korea, and any other non conquered, non nomadic tribes, look at their history and you'll see we have always been the super power, their culture is our culture + a bit of their own stuff.

The japanese kimono and most traditional stuff came from China and Korea, and the Koreans mostly learned from us and added some of their own twist to it.

Their was the tributary system, where China was always the leader and second is korea, the rest is the rest.

We are the Roman empire that never fell.

Does that make the chinese "race" superior?

 

[Tractor]

China up until 1830ish were the center of east Asia, we were always the dominate force. Look at Japanese, vietnamese and Korea, and any other non conquered, non nomadic tribes, look at their history and you'll see we have always been the super power, their culture is our culture + a bit of their own stuff.

The japanese kimono and most traditional stuff came from China and Korea, and the Koreans mostly learned from us and added some of their own twist to it. Before the japanese sent people to learn from us they don't even have written language.

When we were building palaces and empires during the LATE HAN dynasty, they were still a nomadic tribe, considered barbarians.

Their was the tributary system, where China was always the leader and second is korea, the rest is the rest.

We are the Roman empire that never fell.

You say nothing to the outside world for oriental the whole one thing.

 

[Genesis]

Does that make the chinese "race" superior?

no, but it does give us a vast territory, a population unparalleled, a history unrivaled and all the other goodies that a huge nation have.

The race isn't superior, but the country is. It's just that with a large country as you know, it's a lot harder to unite everyone under one goal. Not like Iceland, they want to be a financial center, they just become one.

But now that it has happened, well, the rest is history.

India and US is the only countries on earth I consider to have the conditions needed to be equal or superior to us.

Except India still isn't united, as in politically, and US is 300 years old and as history would suggest, is on the path down, while we were just rebuilt in 1949. So in 50 years we may be the super power of the world, and then 100 years maybe India, then maybe US, then maybe China again, and so on so forth.

 

[INDIC]

I have a question. Are the chinese generally glorified in history for no particular reason? I thought about why chinese consider themselves as a superior race and the explanation I came out with was that they are taught that many people succeeded in the world just because they were chinese, not because they were good at what they did. Is it true? Is China unfairly glorified in your schoolbooks?

Here is the answer.
BBC News - A Point Of View: How China sees a multicultural world

The vast majority of the Chinese population regard themselves as belonging to the same race, a stark contrast to the multiracial composition of other populous countries. What effect does this have on how China views the world, ask Martin Jacques.

I was on a taxi journey in Shanghai with a very intelligent young Chinese student, who was helping me with interviews and interpreting. She was shortly to study for her doctorate at a top American university. She casually mentioned that some Chinese students who went to the US ended up marrying Americans.

I told her that I had recently seen such a mixed couple in Hong Kong, a Chinese woman with a black American. This was clearly not what she had in mind. Her reaction was a look of revulsion. I was shocked. Why did she react that way to someone black, but not someone white? This was over a decade ago, but I doubt much has changed. What does her response tell us - if anything - about Chinese attitudes towards ethnicity?

China's population is huge.

What people aren't generally aware of, though, is that more than nine out of 10 Chinese people think of themselves as belonging to just one race, the Han. This is remarkable. It is quite different from the world's other most populous nations: India, United States, Indonesia and Brazil. All recognise themselves to be, in varying degrees, multiracial and multicultural.

True, a country that is the size of a continent has obviously been home to countless different races down the ages. But that is not how the great majority of Chinese see themselves today.

Why is this?

The answer takes us back to the birth of modern China more than 2,000 years ago. China is extremely old - the longest continuously existing country in the world. The eastern half of China - where the vast majority of Chinese live now and lived then - has been more or less united ever since 211BC.

Over that extraordinarily long period - as a result of war, occupation, absorption, assimilation, ethnic cleansing and government resettlement - the sense of difference between the many races that lived in the eastern half of China was slowly eroded.

Fundamental to this process was the gradual emergence of a shared cultural identity.

China, along with part of today's Middle East, was home to the first settled agricultural communities in the world. They gradually supplanted nomadic culture and ushered in the beginnings of centralised governance.

Over the last two millennia, China has generally been one of the most advanced, often the most advanced, civilisation in the world. It is hardly surprising that, with a rich history like this, the Chinese have a very powerful sense of their cultural identity.

Every country has its own unique story of ethnicity. Take the US. It starts with arrival of the European settlers and the near extermination of the native American population, to be followed later by large-scale African slavery. Not surprisingly, these experiences have profoundly influenced American attitudes and the country's behaviour as a global power.

How did China evolve? It is essentially the story of the Han and the way in which over a period of two millennia they came to absorb the great majority of other ethnic groups.

Before the victory of the Qin dynasty in 221BC, China was divided into many different states. The process of its subsequent unification was the creation of an empire. But whereas all the other great empires of the world have long since broken up, China remains united. Why? In one word - the Han. The Han identity has served as the glue which has kept a geographically and demographically vast country together. Without that shared identity, China would long ago have fallen apart.

The China I have been talking about is the eastern half of present-day China, where more than 90% of the population lives. What then of the western half? This is a different story. It accounts for over half the territory of China but contains only about 6% of its population.

Whereas the eastern half of China dates back about two millennia, the western part is far more recent, having only been incorporated about 300 years ago.

From the mid-17th Century, large tracts of the western region were conquered by the Qing dynasty in a series of brutal wars. The inhabitants of these lands were not Han. With their different physical appearance, darker skin, distinctive customs and lower level of development, the Han saw them as the Other, as "barbarians".

Not surprisingly, the Chinese government, both imperial and communist, has long had a troubled relationship with parts of the western regions, notably Tibet and Xinjiang.

If the strength of the Han identity is that it has held China together, its weakness, I would argue, has been its relative lack of respect for difference, an underlying assumption that the non-Han should become like the Han - indeed eventually be absorbed into the Han. This attitude is not difficult to understand, it is how the Han became almost, but not quite, synonymous with being Chinese, or, to put it another way, how China was created.

Ethnicity is a powerful determinant of how societies perceive others. So how is China, as a global power, likely to view the rest of the world?

Just as with the US, China will naturally tend to see the world in its own image. An unusual feature of China, in this respect, is that its history is so atypical: a huge population who overwhelmingly consider themselves to share the same identity. This helps to explain why the Chinese have tended to think of Africa as one, just like China, rather than a complex mosaic of different ethnicities and cultures.

The fact that China has had little experience of, or exposure to, the rest of the world until very recently - the past 30 years to be exact - has served to reinforce a tendency to see other countries through a Chinese prism.

Bear in mind, too, that the Chinese have a deep pride in their own cultural achievements, many believing that, for understandable reasons, their civilisation, and their history, is greater than all others. Such an outlook also tends to accentuate a China-centric view of the world.

When I first got to know the Chinese, one of the things I most enjoyed about them was their powerful sense of who they were, their confidence in who they were. They did not defer to white people. I liked that and respected them for it. It was as if their remarkable history resided in each and every one of them and made them walk tall.

Despite the fact that for the best part of two centuries China came to suffer hugely at the hands of the West, and to lag badly behind the West, the Chinese never stopped believing in themselves. Such pride and confidence is to be admired. In my view, though, it can also have a downside - a tendency to look down on others. If the Chinese have always considered themselves to be at least the equal of white Westerners, a common, though by no means universal, attitude has been to regard those of darker skin as inferior.

My horrified student friend was a case in point.

But why is this? Its roots are deep. For many centuries, white has had positive connotations in Chinese culture and black negative ones. Perhaps the reason is that those who toiled all day in the fields became dark while the aristocratic elite, protected from the sun, remained pristine white. To this day, interestingly, skin whitening products are enormously popular amongst Chinese women, as they also are in Japan and Korea and elsewhere.

Over the past two centuries, the Chinese have been hugely aware of the fact that white societies around the globe have been dominant while those of colour, especially African, have been poorer and much less developed. Success breeds respect, failure can all too easily attract scorn. Remember, those of African descent, until the past few decades, have been remote and distant from the Chinese, far removed from their knowledge and experience, a situation which can foster ignorance and prejudice.

There are small signs of change.

Didier Drogba, the Ivory Coast footballer who now plays for Shanghai Shenhua, has spoken in glowing terms about how the Chinese have received him.

As China becomes increasingly familiar with the world - as is now happening in such a dramatic way, from Africa to Latin America, and South Asia to Central Asia - parochial if deep-seated prejudices will come under growing pressure.

 

[Tractor]

no, but it does give us a vast territory, a population unparalleled, a history unrivaled and all the other goodies that a huge nation have.

The race isn't superior, but the country is. It's just that with a large country as you know, it's a lot harder to unite everyone under one goal. Not like Iceland, they want to be a financial center, they just become one.


But now that it has happened, well, the rest is history.

India and US is the only countries on earth I consider to have the conditions needed to be equal or superior to us.

Except India still isn't united, as in politically, and US is 300 years old and as history would suggest, is on the path down, while we were just rebuilt in 1949. So in 50 years we may be the super power of the world, and then 100 years maybe India, then maybe US, then maybe China again, and so on so forth.

You avoid talking about race,I can understand for the rules there.
But without race you say nothing to an Indian 'useful' for them.

 

[manofwar]

no, but it does give us a vast territory, a population unparalleled, a history unrivaled and all the other goodies that a huge nation have.

The race isn't superior, but the country is. It's just that with a large country as you know, it's a lot harder to unite everyone under one goal. Not like Iceland, they want to be a financial center, they just become one.

But now that it has happened, well, the rest is history.

India and US is the only countries on earth I consider to have the conditions needed to be equal or superior to us.

Except India still isn't united, as in politically, and US is 300 years old and as history would suggest, is on the path down, while we were just rebuilt in 1949. So in 50 years we may be the super power of the world, and then 100 years maybe India, then maybe US, then maybe China again, and so on so forth.

My views exactly. I would also like to add that uniting India is a whole lot more difficult than it is uniting USA or China. China is on the whole, a homogeneous society while USA, despite being a heterogeneous one displays a nationalistic fervor and a desire to be a united nation, which is rarely seen in a heterogeneous society. The lack of secession-ism there is admirable....
India on the other hand is being a much more heterogeneous and older society tends to have communities that have carved out a well-defined individual identity over the centuries. This contributes to it's diversity and makes making effective National Policies that much harder......