North Korea Defence Forum

[The Deterrent]

Do you think north Korea get the technology from Russia or indigenous?

I'm afraid I don't have a concrete idea about this, but they might have got some help in form of blue prints or a cold-war era system. They definitely didn't come up with that all on their own.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

original Article: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/china-suspend-coal-imports-north-korea-170218134156911.html

China to suspend coal imports from North Korea
Country loses crucial source of foreign exchange following latest missile test as China implements UN sanctions.

• China says it will suspend all imports of coal from North Korea for the rest of the year, depriving the country of a crucial source of foreign exchange following its latest missile test.
  
  The suspension, which implements existing UN sanctions over North Korea's nuclear programmes, will start on February 19 and remain in force until the end of the year, China's commerce ministry said in a statement posted on its website on Saturday.
  
  China "will temporarily stop its imports of coal from North Korea for the rest of this year" including coal for which customs applications have been made but not yet processed, it said.
  
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  The decision came after North Korea's February 11 missile test, as tensions escalate over the reclusive state's defiance of UN resolutions.
  
  China had traditionally ensured that UN Security Council resolutions on sanctions against North Korea included humanitarian exemptions, and had continued to buy huge amounts of North Korean coal - worth $101m in October alone.
  
  Einar Tangen, a Beijing-based analyst, says China's move would have a massive impact on North Korea's economy.
  
  "Coal represents one-third of North Korea's total exports ... The entire GDP of North Korea was about $17bn and now $1bn has effectively disappeared. This is biting into the very lifeblood of the administration," he told Al Jazeera.
  
  China, a long-time main ally and neighbour of North Korea, appeared to be moving towards improved ties with South Korea after its political opposition gained popularity following President Park Geun-hye's impeachment, Tangen said.
  
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  "China has recently been working hard with South Korea's opposition," he said.
  
  The UN Security Council, which includes China, sharply criticised North Korea on Monday for the missile test, describing it as a "grave violation" of UN resolutions and threatening "further significant measures".
  
  On Wednesday, North Korea defended the missile launch and criticised the Security Council condemnation.
  
  WATCH: Chinese border town feels pinch of N Korea sanctions (2:00)
  The rocket launch was the first since US President Donald Trump came to power and was seen as a challenge to the new American leader, who has promised a strong response.
  
  Trump has repeatedly criticised China for doing too little to help stop North Korea's nuclear programme.
  
  Rex Tillerson, US secretary of state, used his first meeting with Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on Friday to urge China "to use all available tools to moderate North Korea's destabilising behaviour".
  
  North Korea launched a series of missiles and conducted two nuclear tests in 2016 in its quest to develop a weapons system capable of hitting the US mainland.
  
  The latest rocket - said by North Korea to be able to carry a nuclear warhead - flew east for about 500km before falling into the Sea of Japan, South Korea's defence ministry said.
  
  The Security Council has imposed six sets of sanctions since North Korea first tested an atomic device in 2006.
  

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Can't sanction them too hard.

If the insane Fat Kim regime collapses, they will send all their nukes towards America (with a few left over for South Korea and Japan), and millions of refugees will pour over the Chinese border. Basically the world economy will collapse overnight.

 

[Beast]

Can't sanction them too hard.

If the insane Fat Kim regime collapses, they will send all their nukes towards America (with a few left over for South Korea and Japan), and millions of refugees will pour over the Chinese border. Basically the world economy will collapse overnight.

Fat Kim has no balls. Plus his missile has no MIRV and miniature nuke warhead. The most he can throw 2-3 ICBM which I believe US mid course interception and THAAM is able to rid of it. Fat Kim know if he throw nuke at US. He is sure to doom. It will be either China invade NK to rid of Kim or US-SK mass invade to rid of him. Worst come to worst, US throw nuke and NK cease to exist.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Fat Kim has no balls. Plus his missile has no MIRV and miniature nuke warhead. The most he can throw 2-3 ICBM which I believe US mid course interception and THAAM is able to rid of it. Fat Kim know if he throw nuke at US. He is sure to doom. It will be either China invade NK to rid of Kim or US-SK mass invade to rid of him. Worst come to worst, US throw nuke and NK cease to exist.

It doesn't matter if Fat Kim has balls or not, if his regime is going to collapse then he is going to die painfully anyway (see Saddam and Gaddafi). So when he dies will take the USA, South Korea and Japan to Hell with him. And cause millions of refugees to flood China's border.

No point changing the status quo, if someone else wants to handle it they can go ahead and do it.

 

[MultaniGuy]

North Korea is a crappy country.

Why doesn't China simply annex North Korea?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

North Korea is a crappy country.

Why doesn't China simply annex North Korea.

Don't want it.

South Korea doesn't want it either.

 

[jian-10]

North Korea is a crappy country.

Why doesn't China simply annex North Korea.

too much distabilization of the region and very bloody, the North Korean populace is so brainwashed that I think they'll literally fight to the death to protect the Kim monarchy. I've watched some North Korean state TV and even if it's on for just a few hours, 60% of it is worshipping the Kims. They even have kid soldiers swearing that they'll fight to the death just to protect some Kim statues. It's an insane absolute monarchy similar to Imperial Japan.

 

[Beast]

North Korea is a crappy country.

Why doesn't China simply annex North Korea.

China is never about annexing others countries.

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

Can't sanction them too hard.

If the insane Fat Kim regime collapses, they will send all their nukes towards America (with a few left over for South Korea and Japan), and millions of refugees will pour over the Chinese border. Basically the world economy will collapse overnight.

If the insane Fat Kim regime collapses, they will send all their nukes towards America (with a few left over for South Korea Japan and China)
maybe

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If the insane Fat Kim regime collapses, they will send all their nukes towards America (with a few left over for South Korea Japan and China)
maybe

Their primary target is the US mainland, followed by South Korea and Japan. If they can ensure those are destroyed, and they still have nukes left over, maybe they will target others.

 

[Brainsucker]

Is this a punishment for them to kill Kim Jong Nam?

 

[gambit]

North Korea is a crappy country.

Why doesn't China simply annex North Korea.

That is actually an excellent question.

What is 'annexation' ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation

Let us say that China decides to annex North Korea, essentially, no more North Korea. What could South Korea and the US do ?

Nothing. Except make a lot of noises at the UN. South Korea is not going get so enraged and send troops northward. The South Korean government already have its hands full at governing one half of Korea. In the long term, that is a different story.

 

[LowPost]

This decision could also serve as a smokescreen, mind. I can see China supporting the DPRK clandestinely as it doesn't make much sense to me to, on the one hand, back the Anglo-Zionists in what they're doing against the North Koreans, but on the other hand, be at loggerhands with them in related issues, the deployment of THAAD missiles in the ROK in particular.

I don't know what to make of Kim, but the Anglo-Zionist concept of besieging an opposing country with sanctions in order to force a regime change is barbaric and imbecile. The DPRK has dealt with them for decades and it still remains a thorn in their side, a rather nasty one, to be frank. Also, there's a reason why the Ziomedia is littered with 'horror stories', with some comically ridiculous ones amongst them, about said state.

@Chinese-Dragon

 

[mike2000 is back]

This decision could also serve as a smokescreen, mind. I can see China supporting the DPRK clandestinely as it doesn't make much sense to me to, on the one hand, back the Anglo-Zionists in what they're doing against the North Koreans, but on the other hand, be at loggerhands with them in related issues, the deployment of THAAD missiles in the ROK in particular.

I don't know what to make of Kim, but the Anglo-Zionist concept of besieging an opposing country with sanctions in order to force a regime change is barbaric and imbecile. The DPRK has dealt with them for decades and it still remains a thorn in their side, a rather nasty one, to be frank. Also, there's a reason why the Ziomedia is littered with 'horror stories', with some comically ridiculous ones amongst them, about said state.

@Chinese-Dragon

Lool that was a funny one(plus coming from someone living in the same evil West).

Anyway, good job China. The whole world should keep sanctioning and isolating this tyrant dynastic terror regime.

By the way this is not the first time China has sanctioned this crazy regime, China already implemented several other sanctions against North Korea, I guess using your flawed delusional logic China is an Anglo-american Zionist puppet trying to help the evil Anglo Zionist destroy the holy Kim dynasty N.Korea right?

China announces restrictions on trade with North Korea

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un salutes as he arrives to inspect a military drill at an unknown location, in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on March 25, 2016.
REUTERS/KCNA

(Reuters) - China on Tuesday banned imports of gold and rare earths from North Korea as well as exports to the country of jet fuel and other oil products used to make rocket fuel, a move in line with new United Nations sanctions on Pyongyang.

The Security Council unanimously passed a resolution in early March expanding U.N. sanctions aimed at starving North Korea of funds for its nuclear and ballistic missile programs after Pyongyang conducted a fourth nuclear test in January and launched a long-range rocket in February.

The mining sector is a key part of North Korea's economy, which is already largely cut off from the rest of the world. Experts believe revenue from the sector helps underwrite North Korea's military expenditures.

The ministry said it would also ban coal shipments from North Korea, although it made exemptions consistent with sanctions, including uses intended for "the people's well-being" and not connected to nuclear or missile programs.

Read more: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-announces-sanctions-against-north-korea-a6969256.html?amp