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Nobody shares Pakistan’s vision for Afghanistan:Walter Mead.

You put Sun Tzu's words as your signature while you rant like a girl and same old trolls. I am sure you didn't even read his works.

Move on kiddo, not your playing ground. Talking against India and using same old words may win you cheap points and thanks. may be that's your goal.

Present some valid points. Our so called backward country is still there and developing, deal with it, your whining doesn't mean anything.

For India, Afghanistan means,opening western front for Pakistan to think about which it had never did, even if its on small scale. As far as your Muslim nations theory goes, KSA and Iran are Muslim countries. Now, go figure.
LOL - Aren't we being a bit harsh today? :D
 
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LOL - Aren't we being a bit harsh today? :D
I hate when people quote minds like of Sun Tzu and post such comments.

Sun Tzu's words are still practical and bears huge significance in today's art of war. He should get proper respect. :triniti:
 
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I hate when people quote minds like of Sun Tzu and post such comments.

Sun Tzu's words are still practical and bears huge significance in today's art of war. He should get proper respect. :triniti:
Well. If someone doesn't understand the contextual meaning of his words, and you getting angry over it. How should I..... :

"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. " :cheers:
 
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Well. If someone doesn't understand the contextual meaning of his words, and you getting angry over it. How should I..... :
"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. " :cheers:
Are yara, kaafi hrs ho gaye the kisi ko sunaye hue....is liye pel diya....:D
 
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Actually, the reverse is also true

Pakistan vision for India-- Your secularism is a sham and you will disintegrate into small countries. :rofl:

How many Pakistanis do you see on Indian fora, and on the contrary how many Indians are interested? The lone example of this forum is suffice. The same goes for media. How many news about India do you see on Pakistani media and on the contrary how many do you see on yours pathetic media. Dude you guys are obsessed with us eventhough we dont even care about what rubbish is going around in your backyard. Indian ich is well known around the world.
Pakistan vision for India-- Your secularism is a sham and you will disintegrate into small countries just because of you dumping your incompetence on us.
 
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How many Pakistanis do you see on Indian fora, and on the contrary how many Indians are interested? The lone example of this forum is suffice. The same goes for media. How many news about India do you see on Pakistani media and on the contrary how many do you see on yours pathetic media. Dude you guys are obsessed with us eventhough we dont even care about what rubbish is going around in your backyard. Indian ich is well known around the world.
Pakistan vision for India-- Your secularism is a sham and you will disintegrate into small countries just because of you dumping your incompetence on us.
man, we are good at meeting the enemy in their own grounds that is the reason you'll see a lot of INDIANS here in PDF. where as most PAKISTANIS think that the world comprises of OIC members only and call it a muslim world and do not try to be part of the INTERNATIONAL community, that is the reason you guys are seen in other INTERNATIONAL forums other than the ones that you guys host.
 
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man, we are good at meeting the enemy in their own grounds that is the reason you'll see a lot of INDIANS here in PDF. where as most PAKISTANIS think that the world comprises of OIC members only and call it a muslim world and do not try to be part of the INTERNATIONAL community, that is the reason you guys are seen in other INTERNATIONAL forums other than the ones that you guys host.
Nice excuse sunny.
 
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Instead of one liners and typical rants, Can someone please enlighten the gareeb internet janta on "What exactly is pakistans vision for Afghanistan"
 
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Instead of one liners and typical rants, Can someone please enlighten the gareeb internet janta on "What exactly is pakistans vision for Afghanistan"
A stable Afghanistan is in the interest of everyone. But the difference remains so as to how this stability can be achieved. We are now witnessing as mass murder of US's vision of achieving stability and an acceptability of Pakistan's stance that any attempt to restore peace in Afghanistan necessitates all the stake holders (northern alliance, Taliban, Haqqanis, hazaras,urzbiks, pushtoons and other power houses in the country). US has been trying to bypass the rest by concentrating on constructing a Northern Alliance setup headed by a Pushtoon. Which, of course, have failed till now.
 
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nobody esp afghans share america's vision of afghanistan. why do you think afghans (and not taliban) keep whacking off NATO and US soldiers!!! - pause to think about that. 54 killed so far and it will increase as we get closer to 2014.
 
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And what is the reality of Afghanistan, the Muslim country?
Does any Muslim country needs... a progressive liberal democratic society model from India the most backward nation on earth, while they have their own progressive liberal democratic system model from Islam it self.

India's aim in Afghanistan it to surround and contain Pakistan, but since it is mostly on heroin, this is a far fetched and very unrealistic possibility in the Muslim region.

No need to contain Pakistan as it is on its own path of destruction. US and India has same interests in Afganistan because of China.
 
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So please tell us what you celebrate?????40000 bodies and counting 18 more till yesterday....or is that what you call sacrifice or price you paid for having your wattage and vision in other country.

This is the cost of war.. and wars are not to celebrate - BUT - we are not talking about war and its cost here, we are talking about outcome which is favorable to Pakistan. Its not victory for us but we will be better-off as compared to India, USA and NATO combined. Even the victorious sides in wars have mattered - but meaning of victory is obvious to those who live to see their enemy die and flee. ;)
 
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Having long abandoned Monroe Doctrine, US thru CIA have been interfering in other countries for a very long time. It may be a consequence of the cold war and fear of communism; nonetheless it is a fact that should be denounced.

On the same basis, the ‘Strategic Depth’ concept, initiated by the bigots Zia & Hamid Gul is wrong. This policy has done far more harm to Pakistan than any possible benefit of so called strategic depth.

In the days of realpolitik, my ideas may appear naive but in my view no foreign country has right to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. It is the time that we put our house in order rather than worrying about what would or should happen in Afghanistan.

We need a stable and prosperous Afghanistan. That is all and should support all efforts towards this end.
 
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Instead of one liners and typical rants, Can someone please enlighten the gareeb internet janta on "What exactly is pakistans vision for Afghanistan"

simple, an afghanistan where India has no influence and that can only happen if minority northern alliance has no role to very minimum role in the future. If that happens Afghanistan has 80% chances of becoming a stable country otherwise the status quo goes on
 
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simple, an afghanistan where India has no influence and that can only happen if minority northern alliance has no role to very minimum role in the future. If that happens Afghanistan has 80% chances of becoming a stable country otherwise the status quo goes on

Otherwise you will again make them terrorist training center :lol:
 
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