No Untouchables Among Hindus Until Islamic Invasions: Vishwa HINDU Parishad'

[B+ Dracula]

Buddy IMHO,if you claim something at least backed it with facts otherwise you will look stupid and this lesson is not just for PDF but for your entire life.

Moron - you're new born baby on PDF .....Have ur Way & dont poke with me

 

[RescueRanger]

LOL this thread made me laugh hard. Thank you India, and people think ZZH is funny!

 

[13 komaun]

Moron - you're new born baby on PDF .....Have ur Way & dont poke with me

good you learn your lesson now pi$s off

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I've read enough about it to know how much racism and discrimination exists. You're right though. The ISI is responsible! I rest my case. You win!

I actually am trying to get into the ISI. This job is killing me and a stint at the Indian Statistical Institute can help.
You are I - same race.

 

[wolfschanzze]

My Question Demands something Else .. not wat u mentioned above
.
We here in Pak marry each other SECTS except QADYAIS...unanimously

LOL, yes you do? i believe ya.
Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Castes in Pakistan[edit]
The social stratification among Muslims in the "Swat" area of North Pakistan has been meaningfully compared to the Caste system in India. The society is rigidly divided into subgroups where each Quom is assigned a profession. Different Quoms are not permitted to intermarry or live in the same community.[25] These Muslims practice a ritual-based system of social stratification. The Quoms who deal with human emissions are ranked the lowest.[25]

Stephen M. Lyon of University of Kent has written about what he calls "Gujarism", the act of Gurjars in Pakistan seeking out other Gurjars to form associations, and consolidate ties with them, based strictly on caste affiliation.[28]

itna jhoot bolne ki kya zarorat hai? As if we don't know how dalits are treated, first allow them in to your mandirs before asking to recite hindu texts.

Har koi tumhari jhoota desh ki tarah rehte kya mian?
yeh padh lo!
Karnataka temple appoints two Dalit widows as priests | The Indian Express
‘Narendra Modi govt for Dalits as priests’ | Zee News
Tirupati to train Dalits to be priests : Latest Headlines, News - India Today

Enough or want more?
Why should i lie to a Pakistani about my friends?it doesn't even concern me whether you believe in it as it makes no difference to us in India.

 

[Kabira]

LOL, yes you do? i believe ya.
Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Castes in Pakistan[edit]
The social stratification among Muslims in the "Swat" area of North Pakistan has been meaningfully compared to the Caste system in India. The society is rigidly divided into subgroups where each Quom is assigned a profession. Different Quoms are not permitted to intermarry or live in the same community.[25] These Muslims practice a ritual-based system of social stratification. The Quoms who deal with human emissions are ranked the lowest.[25]

Stephen M. Lyon of University of Kent has written about what he calls "Gujarism", the act of Gurjars in Pakistan seeking out other Gurjars to form associations, and consolidate ties with them, based strictly on caste affiliation.[28]

I agree about gujarism, these gujars indeed seek out each other in Pakistan And that swat caste system is strictly profession based and tribal. In hinduism its different because low caste are not even allowed to enter mandirs. Mashalla this custom does not exist in pure land, and everyone is free even in most bakward rural areas. But profession based caste system still exist because its centuries old. Centuries ago when Indians migrated in to Pakistan for food, they were hired as cleaners and to work in forms.

Qoums who hired them avoided as best as they could to mix with them or marry them. In fact not long ago (lets say 100 years ago) zamindars used to give these people free zameen to build their houses.

 

[wolfschanzze]

I agree about gujarism, these gujars indeed seek out each other in Pakistan And that swat caste system is strictly profession based and tribal. In hinduism its different because low caste are not even allowed to enter mandirs. Mashalla this custom does not exist in pure land, and everyone is free even in most bakward rural areas. But profession based caste system still exist because its centuries old. Centuries ago when Indians migrated in to Pakistan for food, they were hired as cleaners and to work in forms.

Qoums who hired them avoided as best as they could to mix with them or marry them. In fact not long ago (lets say 100 years ago) zamindars used to give these people free zameen to build their houses.

What i posted above says Pakistanis dont intermarry in between sects.
I dont indulge in trolling sessions.Bye.

 

[Kabira]

What i posted above says Pakistanis dont intermarry in between sects.
I dont indulge in trolling sessions.Bye.

Only in rural areas they do that. Even then its impossible to avoid inter marriages.

 

[LaBong]

isupportaap in his stupidity has posted an article that portrays the VHP in good light

This is the key to what Singhal says,

The VHP patriarch alleged, "Islamic invaders had, many centuries ago, compelled a section of Hindus to take up menial tasks like scavenging as they had refused to convert to Islam despite untold acts of oppression."

"The time has come to set right this wrong. I call upon Hindus to give the Dalits the respect they deserve. They must, henceforth, be viewed not as untouchables but as Dharmyoddhas -- those who chose to engage in menial tasks and suffer humiliation but did not agree to give up their Dharma," Singhal said.


I agree with Singhal, The Dalits must henceforth be called Dharmyoddhas


Not the patronising "harijan" Gandhi choose.

Why replace one euphemism with another, why can't VHP elevate their status to Kshatriya or Brahman.

 

[Prajapati]

Why replace one euphemism with another, why can't VHP elevate their status to Kshatriya or Brahman.

Because VHP has no authority to decide on caste matters ........... besides I doubt they would want to loose reservation by getting an upgrade , if its an upgrade are you are so desperate to show.

Why so much pain in your tummy ?

 

[B+ Dracula]

LOL, yes you do? i believe ya.
Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Castes in Pakistan[edit]
The social stratification among Muslims in the "Swat" area of North Pakistan has been meaningfully compared to the Caste system in India. The society is rigidly divided into subgroups where each Quom is assigned a profession. Different Quoms are not permitted to intermarry or live in the same community.[25] These Muslims practice a ritual-based system of social stratification. The Quoms who deal with human emissions are ranked the lowest.[25]

Stephen M. Lyon of University of Kent has written about what he calls "Gujarism", the act of Gurjars in Pakistan seeking out other Gurjars to form associations, and consolidate ties with them, based strictly on caste affiliation.[28]

Dear, You're making PAPER DINASOURS out of Nothing...its up to you to beleive wat u wanna beleive
.
Right at that time you're raising two Questions
a) Shia / Sunni Intermarriages
b) Caste system Intermarriages
.
for the first Part , Right after the advent of Telephone/Mobile I witness increase in Shia/Sunni marriage instances BCOZ its the pure decision on the part of Boy & Girl ...not FAMILIES
.
for the 2nd part, Generally Punjabis, Pathans Or else marry within their own Group & Sub-Groups, its a general Trend Line not Law
.
THUMB OF THE RULE is that we're allowed to marry - Jews & Christians ...then why on the earth somone can deny right to marry our own School of thought???
.
But if you question me with rare Despotic Instances like.....Zalim Landlord exploiting rights of poor class ...and Illegal practices of Old Tribal system then please ...be Judicious & its none of my BUSINESS

----also read that part in your LINK
Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Criticism[edit]
Some Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like features as a "flagrant violation of the Qur'anic worldview." Other scholars tried to reconcile and resolve the "disjunction between Qur'anic egalitarianism and Indian Muslim social practice" through theorizing it in different ways and interpreting the Qur'an and Sharia to justify casteism.[29]

Some scholars theorize that the Muslim Castes are not as acute in their discrimination as that among Hindus.[13][15]

 

[isupportaap]

https://twitter.com/x/status/564852409118113792

https://twitter.com/x/status/564851128337039360

 

[wolfschanzze]

Dear, You're making PAPER DINASOURS out of Nothing...its up to you to beleive wat u wanna beleive
.
Right at that time you're raising two Questions
a) Shia / Sunni Intermarriages
b) Caste system Intermarriages
.
for the first Part , Right after the advent of Telephone/Mobile I witness increase in Shia/Sunni marriage instances BCOZ its the pure decision on the part of Boy & Girl ...not FAMILIES
.
for the 2nd part, Generally Punjabis, Pathans Or else marry within their own Group & Sub-Groups, its a general Trend Line not Law
.
THUMB OF THE RULE is that we're allowed to marry - Jews & Christians ...then why on the earth somone can deny right to marry our own School of thought???
.
But if you question me with rare Despotic Instances like.....Zalim Landlord exploiting rights of poor class ...and Illegal practices of Old Tribal system then please ...be Judicious & its none of my BUSINESS

----also read that part in your LINK
Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Criticism[edit]
Some Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like features as a "flagrant violation of the Qur'anic worldview." Other scholars tried to reconcile and resolve the "disjunction between Qur'anic egalitarianism and Indian Muslim social practice" through theorizing it in different ways and interpreting the Qur'an and Sharia to justify casteism.[29]

Some scholars theorize that the Muslim Castes are not as acute in their discrimination as that among Hindus.[13][15]

You cannot bluff,there is proof that Pakistanis follow the same system.

Only in rural areas they do that. Even then its impossible to avoid inter marriages.

You have sufficient proof posted above,read it well.