No reason for Pakistan and India to continue with hostilities: IAF pilot Abhinandan

[magra]

We most certainly are not "the same people". Pakistanis and indians are different both racially, genetically, culturally, linguistically etc.

Please remember that when you say so, you instantly dismiss millions of your compatriots who arrived in present day Pakistan from present day India. Do you not consider them as Pakistanis?

 

[Trango Towers]

He is respected in India. We Indians are of the same opinion that the land and people are similar on both sides. There should be peace between us.

Let the people of kashmir decide and we have no issue with India

 

[magra]

Let the people of kashmir decide and we have no issue with India

People of Kashmir decided in 1947 - legally (through Hari Singh) and morally (through Sheikh Abdullah). Let us all be happy with what we have right now and move on. No point in continuing to fight. We should aim for France-Germany type of friendship.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Please remember that when you say so, you instantly dismiss millions of your compatriots who arrived in present day Pakistan from present day India. Do you not consider them as Pakistanis?

40-50% of Pakistanis having SOME sort of racial or genetic link to 1-2% of indians ULTMATELY means that at least 98% of indians have NO RACIAL or GENETIC connections to 100% of Pakistanis WHATSOEVER. Here is a genetic map that confirms the racial and genetic differences between Pakistanis and indians:

At least 2.5% of the UK population is Muslim, does that now mean that the English have racial and gentic connections to Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks or Iranians?....................................

 

[Old School]

40-50% of Pakistanis having SOME sort of racial or genetic link to 1-2% of indians ULTMATELY means that at least 98% of indians have NO RACIAL or GENETIC connections to 100% of Pakistanis WHATSOEVER. Here is a genetic map that confirms the racial and genetic differences between Pakistanis and indians:

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At least 2.5% of the UK population is Muslim, does that now mean that the English have racial and gentic connections to Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks or Iranians?....................................

Indian side of Punjab and Sindh ( Rajasthan) are only exceptions.

 

[magra]

40-50% of Pakistanis having SOME sort of racial or genetic link to 1-2% of indians ULTMATELY means that at least 98% of indians have NO RACIAL or GENETIC connections to 100% of Pakistanis WHATSOEVER. Here is a genetic map that confirms the racial and genetic differences between Pakistanis and indians:

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At least 2.5% of the UK population is Muslim, does that now mean that the English have racial and gentic connections to Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks or Iranians?....................................

Does not matter what percentage of what is similar or distinct. I would not want to insult even a single Indian based on ethnicity or race. I am not sure how you can digest insulting millions of Pakistanis.

 

[Trango Towers]

People of Kashmir decided in 1947 - legally (through Hari Singh) and morally (through Sheikh Abdullah). Let us all be happy with what we have right now and move on. No point in continuing to fight. We should aim for France-Germany type of friendship.

See now the dumb Indian in you has come out. No point talking to idiots like you. Jog on dafa ho..send your airforce for a pasting

 

[magra]

See now the dumb Indian in you has come out. No point talking to idiots like you. Jog on dafa ho..send your airforce for a pasting

Meri intelligence aapke validation ki mohtaaj nahin hai huzoor. I am extending a hand of friendship. Lets see how intelligent and sensible are you now.

 

[Trango Towers]

Meri intelligence aapke validation ki mohtaaj nahin hai huzoor. I am extending a hand of friendship. Lets see how intelligent and sensible are you now.

You behaved as an Indian and I replied as you deserved.
Friendship is what Pakistan has always extended to India and its your extremist fascist government that has absolutely turned on its Muslims citizens and especially kashmiris. The same kashmiris that were and have been denied the right to choose their destiny. When Feb 27th happens why were the kashmiris happy that your planes were falling out of the sky. Its because you miss treat them.

We will be open to friendship but nit at any cost. Hell your fascists government won't even allow your team to play cricket against us for fear that you will break more televisions.
So when you offer friendship....what does that mean... does it mean friendships like the rest of the world understands or have you changed the meaning as per indegenous.

 

[magra]

You behaved as an Indian and I replied as you deserved.
Friendship is what Pakistan has always extended to India and its your extremist fascist government that has absolutely turned on its Muslims citizens and especially kashmiris. The same kashmiris that were and have been denied the right to choose their destiny. When Feb 27th happens why were the kashmiris happy that your planes were falling out of the sky. Its because you miss treat them.

We will be open to friendship but nit at any cost. Hell your fascists government won't even allow your team to play cricket against us for fear that you will break more televisions.
So when you offer friendship....what does that mean... does it mean friendships like the rest of the world understands or have you changed the meaning as per indegenous.

What is an "Indian behavior" as per you? I am asking out of genuine curiosity.
India has been wary of Pak's hand of friendship because we never know if the extended hand really has the power. Remember, Vajpayee came to Lahore in 1999 to shake hands with Nawaz but did not know that the real power was with Musharraf who was at that time planning to back-stab us in Kargil.

Kashmiris used their legal and moral right in 1947 (through Hari Singh and Sheikh Abdullah respectively). Country's borders were set in stone then. We do not want what is yours but we will not give what is ours. I understand some Valley Kashmiris have genuine grievances, but they will be addressed within our country as we settled other grievances (Punjab 1980s, North East, Central India Maoists). We not let this be an excuse for 3rd parties to interfere.

I am all for opening up to all sports and cultural ties. I do not agree that cutting off people to people ties helps. Friendship will mean opening this up. I am happy that Intl cricket has returned in Pak. Hope to see Virat vs Babar soon. Friendship also means more trade ties. When China and India can do massive business while still addressing issues, why cant India and Pak. It also means helping each other in times of this global pandemic. Why cant we use our vaccine surplus to help Pak too when we are helping Nepal, BD, Sri Lanka etc.

 

[Trango Towers]

What is an "Indian behavior" as per you? I am asking out of genuine curiosity.
India has been wary of Pak's hand of friendship because we never know if the extended hand really has the power. Remember, Vajpayee came to Lahore in 1999 to shake hands with Nawaz but did not know that the real power was with Musharraf who was at that time planning to back-stab us in Kargil.

Kashmiris used their legal and moral right in 1947 (through Hari Singh and Sheikh Abdullah respectively). Country's borders were set in stone then. We do not want what is yours but we will not give what is ours. I understand some Valley Kashmiris have genuine grievances, but they will be addressed within our country as we settled other grievances (Punjab 1980s, North East, Central India Maoists). We not let this be an excuse for 3rd parties to interfere.

I am all for opening up to all sports and cultural ties. I do not agree that cutting off people to people ties helps. Friendship will mean opening this up. I am happy that Intl cricket has returned in Pak. Hope to see Virat vs Babar soon. Friendship also means more trade ties. When China and India can do massive business while still addressing issues, why cant India and Pak. It also means helping each other in times of this global pandemic. Why cant we use our vaccine surplus to help Pak too when we are helping Nepal, BD, Sri Lanka etc.

If border were set in 1947 then why does CPEC concern you so much.
If 1947 is the issue where is the agreed vote that was to be given to the kashmiris to determine their right to choice.
Cricket is a weapon used by fascist bjp. We don't really care. And cricket left Pakistan because of Indian sponsored terror.
Regarding friendship....these issues have to be addressed and when you have gotten off your superior platform and realise Pakistan is here to stay and we will hit you back very hard if provoked then we can move forward and have normal trade.
You talk of vajpayee and yet forget your big statement for tea at lahore gymkhana 1965. We know how that ended. Your tamasha of 300+ dead at balakot we know how that ended with modi crying if we had rafales. Yet Indian populations buys their gievenmemts lies without question.

Friendship means give and take...you bully Nepal, srilanka and bd. Pakistan will slap you try that with us. On an international stage India cries at every platform. Infact no party can win an election if it is not anti Pakistan.

Wake up and then talk friendship. We don't hate you but you hate us

 

[Goritoes]

Give Kashmiri's independence, negotiate on Sir Creek and get out of Siachen, Stop sponsoring Terrorism inside Pakistan and yes then we will have Peace.

 

[magra]

If border were set in 1947 then why does CPEC concern you so much.
If 1947 is the issue where is the agreed vote that was to be given to the kashmiris to determine their right to choice.
Cricket is a weapon used by fascist bjp. We don't really care. And cricket left Pakistan because of Indian sponsored terror.
Regarding friendship....these issues have to be addressed and when you have gotten off your superior platform and realise Pakistan is here to stay and we will hit you back very hard if provoked then we can move forward and have normal trade.
You talk of vajpayee and yet forget your big statement for tea at lahore gymkhana 1965. We know how that ended. Your tamasha of 300+ dead at balakot we know how that ended with modi crying if we had rafales. Yet Indian populations buys their gievenmemts lies without question.

Friendship means give and take...you bully Nepal, srilanka and bd. Pakistan will slap you try that with us. On an international stage India cries at every platform. Infact no party can win an election if it is not anti Pakistan.

Wake up and then talk friendship. We don't hate you but you hate us

You accept LOC as International Border, CPEC will no longer concern us. Although it should concern you given your debt scenario, but wo aap logon ki sar dardi hai.
For princely states, their monarchs had the legal right to decide. Hari Singh gave India to us. Also, Kashmiris considered Sheikh Abdullah as their leader. He too favored India.
Do you want to play cricket with us or not? You decide. We are ok if you do not want. I thought you were worrying about our broken TV sets.
When are we provoking you? All wars (except 1971) have been initiated by Pak upon India. We want to treat you with respect and equality. We only ask for honest response from an authority figure. Looks like Imran Khan has the rare support of his military which is a good thing.
Why did you brush aside the Lahore 1999 saga? Are you fine with the back-stabbing?
What 1965 tea ? Can you please elaborate?
You should rejoice if as you say no one died at Balakot. I cant understand why you are complaining about it.
If helping friends in need by giving vaccines is bullying, then is China bullying you? I acknowledge that at times some Indian govt figures make foolish statements belittling some of our neighbors. I hope they remain more careful with their words.
Pak has given enough reasons for India to highlight the issues at Intl forum. You should not give us any issues henceforth. The same is the case with political parties in India. Do not give them fodder.
Friendship is one way to reduce the issues.

 

[magra]

Give Kashmiri's independence, negotiate on Sir Creek and get out of Siachen, Stop sponsoring Terrorism inside Pakistan and yes then we will have Peace.

We want to talk peace and friendship for which we mean, you keep what is with you and we are keeping what is with us.

 

[Goritoes]

We want to talk peace and friendship for which we mean, you keep what is with you and we are keeping what is with us.

Then there will be no peace, and hostilities will continue.