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[Hyde]

* India granted Pakistan “Most Favour Nation” Status in the early-mid Nineties. Pakistan has refused to give India “Most Favour Nation” Status. Pakistan mixed Politics with Trade.

most favour nation in what??? any links please

* India has the World’s Second or Third Largest Muslim content of Population. India applied to the Islamic Countries Group for Membership. Pakistan vetoed it. Pakistan mixed Politics with International Relations.

Although India is the second or third largest Muslim country but Muslims still there are considered in minority. Pakistan is a permament member of OIC and like other organations it holds the right to veto the participation of any third country and India is not even a Muslim country only Muslims lives there....... and OIC is a kind of organisation made for Muslims so why you even care about that?

* The Iran Pipe Line to India has to go through Pakistan. Pakistan has refused to Guarantee the availability of the Gas at the India-Pakistan Borders i.e. Pakistan refused to Guarantee the Safety of the Pipe Line Pakistan has mixed Politics with Pipe Line Transits.

Wrong, i was angry with the Government of Pakistan in past for showing so much of softness towards India for this IPI project. Pakistan not only assured the pipeline but they were offering different other packages too but India refused to join because of other reasons (USA one reason). In fact Pakistan wanted India to join this project so they could charge taxes and reduce the costs of importing Gas from Iran. Pakistan tried it level best to convince india but India was not interested anymore after 2007-8 Nuke deals with USA.

* India needs Pakistani Transit for Goods to be send via Land to Afghanistan and Central Asian Republics. Pakistan has again mixed Land Transit with Politics.

India is using transit route already if u can't remember read the news from economy section where even Afghanistan exported some fruits to India and India too is exporting some products to Afghanstain through Pakistan but the number of items allowed are very little as of yet and most of the Pakistanis do not want India to use this route because of spreading terrorism in Pakistan as most of the Pakistanis believe India is behind most of the bomb attacks and if you start using this route allowing extended number of itmes it might create more tension in Pakistan cause India might start smuggling illegal items also and promote even more terrorism in Pakistan

* Pakistan has in the past refused (I do not know if this stricture is still in force) Indian Artists to perform in Pakistan. Pakistan mixes Politics with Entertainment Artists.

Wrong again, even your Bollywood actress Urmila Matondkar worked in a Pakistani movie back in 2004/05 and other actors too are allowed but Pakistani Film Industry is not as good as comparing to India so can't afford expensive movies anyway and foreigners don't want to work here in first place although they are allowed

* Pakistan has in the past refused to allow Indian Movies to be screened in Pakistan. Pakistan has mixed Politics with Movies.

Go and Visit in Pakistan, u will find the posters of Indian movies every second corner of the road however this is not the case in India where they screened Pakistani movie "Khuda ke liye" after 34 years of ban and that Movie itself is a controversial movie hence not promoting any peace between the nations

* Finally we are all aware of the Terrorism being perpetrated by the so-called “Pakistani Non-State Actors” – a euphuism for refusing to face reality and accept responsibility – all in the name of Politics by the Pakistanis to cause Chaos, destruction, havoc, killings, and most importantly trying their very best to negate India’s ability to attract Tourists, host Foreign Sports Teams and last but not the least Pakistan’s realising that India is a far larger country, with greater resources and, in due course, is likely to outstrip Pakistan, economically and militarily, unless bled constantly by Terrorism. Pakistan has mixed Terrorism being perpetrated by the so-called “Pakistani Non-State Actors” with Politics

I don't understand how superman is India who came to know the attackers of 26/11 were Pakistanis within the first hour of the attack and then Ajmal Kasaab himself giving controversial statements. Sometimes saying he is a Pakistani and sometimes saying he is not a Pakistani and sometimes his mother goes and visit him in the prison who lives in Bombay? and sometimes half cooked theories by our Indian friends.... it confuses me a lot....... u see this is a IPL thread and you are discussing 26/11 :rofl India wants publicity in all matters trust me......... they saw 11/11 exists 7/11 exists and India wanted something like that also...... India is never behind anything........ always want publicity

There are many other instances where Pakistan has discriminated against India as well as Indians by mixing everything with Politics.

So even though India has not mixed Politics in case of the IPL Selection-Auction do you think that Pakistan and Pakistanis are really justified in taking umbrage at the Non-Selection of Pakistani by the Indian Franchisees?

I for one even now hope that Pakistani Cricketers find a place in the IPL for only one reason – let them make a couple of Million US Dollars. Foreign, Indians too, players are paid so why not if they are Pakistanis. I do not deny that the participation of the Pakistanis for the full duration of the contract has an extremely high chance of being curtailed due to another Terrorist Attack by the so-called “Pakistani Non-State Actors” who are a part and parcel of the Pakistani Government-Army-ISI created Terrorist Groups.

The government of Pakistan had allowed the players to participate........ what else IPL Frenchizes wanted? they just wanted to discriminate us........... had they not auctioned our players that was a different case........ but first inviting to be auctioned and then no bidding at all....... even the first bid of Afridi would have closed with the starting price may have helped us understand there is no politics..... but that was not the case unfortunately

 

[Super Falcon]

yes sir i also agree with you India is biggest enemy and silent enemy of Islam and muslims all over the world after Israel altough there muslim community lives too but behavior with them is like they are living in refugee anyway we must ban all indan films forever in pakistan and all indian channels tooo indian will never ever admit its mistakes even everybody accuses therm it is not point to talk with indian people here who dont have any moral values for others and im sure for a pathetic reply from themAlthough India is the second or third largest Muslim country but Muslims still there are considered in minority. Pakistan is a permament member of OIC and like other organations it holds the right to veto the participation of any third country and India is not even a Muslim country only Muslims lives there....... and OIC is a kind of organisation made for Muslims so why you even care about that?












Wrong, i was angry with the Government of Pakistan in past for showing so much of softness towards India for this IPI project. Pakistan not only assured the pipeline but they were offering different other packages too but India refused to join because of other reasons (USA one reason). In fact Pakistan wanted India to join this project so they could charge taxes and reduce the costs of importing Gas from Iran. Pakistan tried it level best to convince india but India was not interested anymore after 2007-8 Nuke deals with USA.



India is using transit route already if u can't remember read the news from economy section where even Afghanistan exported some fruits to India and India too is exporting some products to Afghanstain through Pakistan but the number of items allowed are very little as of yet and most of the Pakistanis do not want India to use this route because of spreading terrorism in Pakistan as most of the Pakistanis believe India is behind most of the bomb attacks and if you start using this route allowing extended number of itmes it might create more tension in Pakistan cause India might start smuggling illegal items also and promote even more terrorism in Pakistan



Wrong again, even your Bollywood actress Urmila Matondkar worked in a Pakistani movie back in 2004/05 and other actors too are allowed but Pakistani Film Industry is not as good as comparing to India so can't afford expensive movies anyway and foreigners don't want to work here in first place although they are allowed



Go and Visit in Pakistan, u will find the posters of Indian movies every second corner of the road however this is not the case in India where they screened Pakistani movie "Khuda ke liye" after 34 years of ban and that Movie itself is a controversial movie hence not promoting any peace between the nations



I don't understand how superman is India who came to know the attackers of 26/11 were Pakistanis within the first hour of the attack and then Ajmal Kasaab himself giving controversial statements. Sometimes saying he is a Pakistani and sometimes saying he is not a Pakistani and sometimes his mother goes and visit him in the prison who lives in Bombay? and sometimes half cooked theories by our Indian friends.... it confuses me a lot....... u see this is a IPL thread and you are discussing 26/11 :rofl India wants publicity in all matters trust me......... they saw 11/11 exists 7/11 exists and India wanted something like that also...... India is never behind anything........ always want publicity



The government of Pakistan had allowed the players to participate........ what else IPL Frenchizes wanted? they just wanted to discriminate us........... had they not auctioned our players that was a different case........ but first inviting to be auctioned and then no bidding at all....... even the first bid of Afridi would have closed with the starting price may have helped us understand there is no politics..... but that was not the case unfortunately[/QUOTE]

 

[Windjammer]

Better late than never, at least GOP has taken a stance on the dirty game being played by the Indians.
A visit to India by a Parliamentary delegation has been cancelled while Cable operators are threatening to boycott the IPL viewing.

 

[Nemesis]

Calm down, its just cricket!! Also, a local domestic competition.

Not quite sure why the Pakistani's are so hot and bothered by this. The franchises didn't bid for Pakistani players because they had very little to spend and politics between India-Pakistan doesn't guarantee that Pakistani players will be available all the time. A purely business decision by teams owned by corporate houses.

 

[Hyde]

Calm down, its just cricket!! Also, a local domestic competition.

Not quite sure why the Pakistani's are so hot and bothered by this. The franchises didn't bid for Pakistani players because they had very little to spend and politics between India-Pakistan doesn't guarantee that Pakistani players will be available all the time. A purely business decision by teams owned by corporate houses.

the problem is................ The Guarantee was given (they were allowed to play in IPL) what else u want from the GoP

 

[Windjammer]

^^^^^^^
One wonders, why the Indian sports minister is not attending his phone from his Pakistani counterpart.

 

[Supersonic26]

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One wonders, why the Indian sports minister is not attending his phone from his Pakistani counterpart.

why should he? Kya koi jabardasti hai bhai? Why pakistan so much after IPL? its 'indian premere leaque' and not PPL.

 

[Super Falcon]

 

[Super Falcon]

india is anti pakistan as it has been from last 70 years or soo and they will never be our friend we should consider next israel for us

 

[Windjammer]

why should he? Kya koi jabardasti hai bhai? Why pakistan so much after IPL? its 'indian premere leaque' and not PPL.

Jabardasti ki baat na kaka, It was your minister who requested for the Pakistan players in the first place. Now he is hiding like a rand.

 

[Nemesis]

the problem is................ The Guarantee was given (they were allowed to play in IPL)

IPL1 happened when the India-Pak peace process was ongoing. Right now relations are fragile, when would the teams bid for a player that is in effect a risky investment? What happens if the GOP or GOI for whatever reasons decide they won't allow the players in the IPL? Why would teams spend so much many on someone who may or may not play in future events?

An example - Ricky Ponting was brought by the KKR for 1 million dollars. He played 4 games in ipl1, 0 in ipl 2. KKR decided to buy out his contract for this season. Why would other teams want to make similar mistakes? They will only buy players whose participation is not in doubt.

Let go of emotion and think logically, this is not so difficult to understand.

 

[Jackdaws]

Does politics mix with sports? Of course it does. England cancelled SA tour due to SA refusing a black man Basil Oliveria from appearing for England. SA was suspended from the ICC for 21 years for its policy on apartheid. India refused to play SA in the Davis Cup final because of SA's apartheid policies. Zia and Rajiv Gandhi engaged in Cricket diplomacy to build bridges. Australia threatened to pull out of the Commonwealth realm and become a republic at the height of Bodyline. So yes - politics often mixes with sport.

Having said this, the Pakistanis must realize that Afridi had the highest base price going into the auction- higher than Pollard, Bond, Kaif, Roach et all. As an Indian and looking at it from a purely sporting viewpoint - I refuse to believe that Afridi was a worse buy than a Damien Martyn or Kaif. But given the current political climate - why would any IPL owner take a risk? And what can the Indian Govt. do? It is a private league and it would be unconstitutional and illegal to bar Pakistani players from being part of the auction. So they couldn't do anything. I am surprised that this wasn't seen by all concerned and Pakistanis could have refused to give permissions to their players - and saved everyone from embarrassment. And EVERYONE is embarrassed - Pakistani Board, Indian Board, Modi, IPL Team owners and Pakistani players.

The talk of racism and anti-Islam is downright ridiculous. North Indians and Pakistanis are of the same race. Heck, Punjabis on either side speak the same language. What are the likes of Kaif, Zaheer Khan, the Pathan brothers? Owais Shah was born in Karachi and plays for the Delhi Daredevils. But he owns a British passport. Yusuf Abdulla is a South African who plays for Kings Punjab. Shah Rukh Khan owns Kolkota Knight Riders - what is he? A Buddhist??

 

[EagleEyes]

I welcome this decision.

IPL money and Jihad against India cannot go in hands.

First stop anti-Indian activities then come to us for money.

The Pakistani reactions are tight slaps on the faces of those who used to say that IPL needs Pakistani players more than the Pakistani players need IPL.

It seems that the Pakistani players need all the money and glamour which unfotunately no league other than IPL can provide them.

GB

How is jihad has anything to do with Pakistan? Pakistan does not support terrorist activities. If India wants to blockade all the ties with Pakistan based on that..then do it. You will make a fool of yourself. Right now the tactics implied by IPL is nothing but shady that is based on racism and satisfy the hinduvata extremist nutcases and others here who are supportive of such a move.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I just noticed the last thread had been closed by the moderators.

So I'll close this one as well since it appears the last one degenerated into flaming and trolling.