Hyde
SENIOR MODERATOR
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2008
- Messages
- 20,543
- Reaction score
- 20
- Country
- Location
compare all of them with Afridi..... who deserves more?
anyway funny to see you are comparing Bollinger, Panesar and Swann with Afridi 
No Pakistani players in IPL 3
- Thread starter Ruag
- Start date
- Status
anyway funny to see you are comparing Bollinger, Panesar and Swann with Afridi 
garibnawaz
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 2, 2008
- Messages
- 2,088
- Reaction score
- 0
compare all of them with Afridi..... who deserves more?
Afridi was no use for Deccan Chargers in 2008 edition. He was a total failure then. The chargers stood 7th out of 8 in 2008.
Search cricinfo and help yourself. Besides you are not crying foul for Afridi alone. Are you?
GB
Hyde
SENIOR MODERATOR
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2008
- Messages
- 20,543
- Reaction score
- 20
- Country
- Location
this is not 2008........ if you just want to compare IPL tournament then Sohail Tanvir was the bowler of the tournament in 2008? then why was he not selected? according to your theory?
Afridi has been performing well in 2008 and 2009 and his recent achievements cannot be ignored......... if you value only IPL then select Tanvir
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
The third IPL auction, held in Mumbai on Tuesday, has been overshadowed by a controversy arising from the fact that not a single Pakistani player of the 11 on the auction list - including several of the World Cup-winning team - was picked up. Pakistan's players have reacted with anger and attributed the blackout to politics; the IPL has said it was the franchises' decision and the franchises have explained it on grounds of cricketing strategy or availability during the tournament.
Though the players - including proven Twenty20 performers Shahid Afridi, Sohail Tanvir and Umar Gul and emerging talent Mohammed Aamer and Umar Akmal - had been given the go-ahead from the Pakistan government, franchises were said to be wary over whether the strained relations with India would affect their ability to get visas.
However, the inclusion of Pakistani players in the IPL's final auction list, released on January 6, was on the basis of specific requests received from the franchises - every player on that list had to be officially sought by at least one franchise. It is not clear what changed in the franchises' thinking within two weeks.
The development has drawn sharp criticism in Pakistan. Aijaz Hussain Jakhrani, the federal sports minister, said he had complained to his Indian counterpart over the incident. "I have phoned the sports minister of India and recorded a protest over the unjust and discriminatory treatment meted out to the Pakistani cricketers," Jakhrani told AFP. "The Pakistani ministries of sports, interior and foreign affairs had given political and security clearance to Pakistani players in time to play. It is indeed a matter of disrespect to…the champions of Twenty20 World Cup."
However, Ijaz Butt, the PCB chairman, was relatively unfazed. "It really does not bother us; what difference does it make to us if our players don't play in the IPL this season? They didn't play in the last season as well," he said.
Afridi, Pakistan's Twenty20 captain, was the first player up for sale on Tuesday but fetched no bids. He called it a snub to his country. "The way I see it, the IPL and India have made fun of us and our country," he said. "We are the Twenty20 world champions and for me the attitude of the franchises was disappointing. I feel bad for the Indian people who, I am sure, wanted to see us play in the IPL this year."
Abdul Razzaq, the allrounder, said politics and sports should be kept separate. "They have basically tried to hurt our cricket and image and this is most disappointing because I believe there should be no politics in sports," Razzaq was quoted as saying by PTI. "In the end it is the IPL which has lost out because the fact is our players have star value and are the best in T20 cricket."
The Pakistan government had not permitted its players to participate in last year's tournament due to security fears after the Mumbai attacks. The wrangling continued in the run-up to this year's auction; when the Pakistan players failed to procure the requisite NOCs, the IPL shut its doors on them for missing out on the December 7 deadline but relented when Pakistan's interior ministry cleared the players for participation in the IPL.
Tanvir, the best bowler in the inaugural IPL and an instrumental part of the Rajasthan Royals' title win, wondered why so much effort was put into getting the clearance from his country's board and government if none of the franchises wanted to buy Pakistan players.
"They mean to say none of our players are good enough to be in the IPL," Tanvir said. "I am sorry to say the franchises have taken a decision not based on cricketing sense but on political grounds which is a shame and has hurt the image of the sport."
Lalit Modi, the IPL commissioner, said the apprehension over the availability of Pakistan players was the main reason for them being unsold. "Franchises are no more ready to spend $7-8 million on someone who won't be available for the tournament," he said. "It not only exhausted their purse but also wasted slots. They want only those players who would be available for the tournament. They are spending money and they want to get the results."
Shilpa Shetty, the co-owner of Rajasthan, echoed Modi's words. "We were not convinced about their availability and that's why we did not want to take any risk," she said. "If someone is not going to be available, why bid for him." She also said that though they had watched Tanvir over the past year, they were looking for a batsman.
The co-owner of Kings XI Punjab, Ness Wadia, had a different take, pinning the non-sale of Pakistan players to the lack of open slots for the franchises - 67 players were auctioned for only 13 vacancies. "I do not think that the Pakistan players were ignored purposely," he said. "Many Australian players were too not auctioned. In fact, last year we suffered because of Australia."
Since the terrorist attacks on Mumbai in November 2008, political relations between India and Pakistan have been strained, and bilateral cricketing ties have been suspended.
Though the players - including proven Twenty20 performers Shahid Afridi, Sohail Tanvir and Umar Gul and emerging talent Mohammed Aamer and Umar Akmal - had been given the go-ahead from the Pakistan government, franchises were said to be wary over whether the strained relations with India would affect their ability to get visas.
However, the inclusion of Pakistani players in the IPL's final auction list, released on January 6, was on the basis of specific requests received from the franchises - every player on that list had to be officially sought by at least one franchise. It is not clear what changed in the franchises' thinking within two weeks.
The development has drawn sharp criticism in Pakistan. Aijaz Hussain Jakhrani, the federal sports minister, said he had complained to his Indian counterpart over the incident. "I have phoned the sports minister of India and recorded a protest over the unjust and discriminatory treatment meted out to the Pakistani cricketers," Jakhrani told AFP. "The Pakistani ministries of sports, interior and foreign affairs had given political and security clearance to Pakistani players in time to play. It is indeed a matter of disrespect to…the champions of Twenty20 World Cup."
However, Ijaz Butt, the PCB chairman, was relatively unfazed. "It really does not bother us; what difference does it make to us if our players don't play in the IPL this season? They didn't play in the last season as well," he said.
Afridi, Pakistan's Twenty20 captain, was the first player up for sale on Tuesday but fetched no bids. He called it a snub to his country. "The way I see it, the IPL and India have made fun of us and our country," he said. "We are the Twenty20 world champions and for me the attitude of the franchises was disappointing. I feel bad for the Indian people who, I am sure, wanted to see us play in the IPL this year."
Abdul Razzaq, the allrounder, said politics and sports should be kept separate. "They have basically tried to hurt our cricket and image and this is most disappointing because I believe there should be no politics in sports," Razzaq was quoted as saying by PTI. "In the end it is the IPL which has lost out because the fact is our players have star value and are the best in T20 cricket."
The Pakistan government had not permitted its players to participate in last year's tournament due to security fears after the Mumbai attacks. The wrangling continued in the run-up to this year's auction; when the Pakistan players failed to procure the requisite NOCs, the IPL shut its doors on them for missing out on the December 7 deadline but relented when Pakistan's interior ministry cleared the players for participation in the IPL.
Tanvir, the best bowler in the inaugural IPL and an instrumental part of the Rajasthan Royals' title win, wondered why so much effort was put into getting the clearance from his country's board and government if none of the franchises wanted to buy Pakistan players.
"They mean to say none of our players are good enough to be in the IPL," Tanvir said. "I am sorry to say the franchises have taken a decision not based on cricketing sense but on political grounds which is a shame and has hurt the image of the sport."
Lalit Modi, the IPL commissioner, said the apprehension over the availability of Pakistan players was the main reason for them being unsold. "Franchises are no more ready to spend $7-8 million on someone who won't be available for the tournament," he said. "It not only exhausted their purse but also wasted slots. They want only those players who would be available for the tournament. They are spending money and they want to get the results."
Shilpa Shetty, the co-owner of Rajasthan, echoed Modi's words. "We were not convinced about their availability and that's why we did not want to take any risk," she said. "If someone is not going to be available, why bid for him." She also said that though they had watched Tanvir over the past year, they were looking for a batsman.
The co-owner of Kings XI Punjab, Ness Wadia, had a different take, pinning the non-sale of Pakistan players to the lack of open slots for the franchises - 67 players were auctioned for only 13 vacancies. "I do not think that the Pakistan players were ignored purposely," he said. "Many Australian players were too not auctioned. In fact, last year we suffered because of Australia."
Since the terrorist attacks on Mumbai in November 2008, political relations between India and Pakistan have been strained, and bilateral cricketing ties have been suspended.
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
this is not 2008........ if you just want to compare IPL tournament then Sohail Tanvir was the bowler of the tournament in 2008? then why was he not selected? according to your theory?
Afridi has been performing well in 2008 and 2009 and his recent achievements cannot be ignored......... if you value only IPL then select Tanvir
good reply friend good reply lets see do he answer or not or he will do deepak kapoor tongue tied with your question and im sure he will not answer to your question of sohail tanvir why not got picked.
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
yes roach is better than any pakistani players when they talk slots are minimum to filled get lost india ipl and lalit modi and entire owners of ipl
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
The PCB has hit out at the IPL's organisers after none of the Pakistan players were sold in the auction held in Mumbai on Tuesday. There were 11 players, including proven Twenty20 performers like Shahid Afridi and Umar Gul, up for grabs but the eight franchises stayed clear of any bids.
Ijaz Butt, the PCB chairman, said, "We are highly disappointed because we were hoping they (Pakistan's players) would play."
Having figured prominently in the inaugural edition, the Pakistan players were absent from the second season in in South Africa, after their government did not allow them to travel to India - where the tournament was originally to be held - for security reasons. Though the players got the go-ahead from their government and the board for the third season of the IPL, franchises were said to be wary over whether the strained relations with India would affect their ability to get visas.
However, the inclusion of Pakistani players in the IPL's final auction list, released on January 6, was on the basis of specific requests received from the franchises - every player on that list had to be officially sought by at least one franchise.
"The IPL had given us the mandate to get permission from our foreign office, to obtain other clearances and to finalise visas," Butt said. "We did all this, but it is a surprise that none of them have been taken at the auction.
"We have been trying to get in touch with the concerned authorities but with no avail. I have asked the sports minister to speak to his counterpart in India about this."
The snub has drawn criticism in Pakistan and Butt said he was aggrieved by the manner in which the players were treated. "I agree this is a private event, but to be excluded without giving any reason and without looking at the background is unfair. If they had told us we would have told the boys not to apply at all."
Butt's comments were a stark contrast to his relatively unfazed stance on Tuesday soon after the auction. "It really does not bother us; what difference does it make to us if our players don't play in the IPL this season? They didn't play in the last season as well," he had said.
Ijaz Butt, the PCB chairman, said, "We are highly disappointed because we were hoping they (Pakistan's players) would play."
Having figured prominently in the inaugural edition, the Pakistan players were absent from the second season in in South Africa, after their government did not allow them to travel to India - where the tournament was originally to be held - for security reasons. Though the players got the go-ahead from their government and the board for the third season of the IPL, franchises were said to be wary over whether the strained relations with India would affect their ability to get visas.
However, the inclusion of Pakistani players in the IPL's final auction list, released on January 6, was on the basis of specific requests received from the franchises - every player on that list had to be officially sought by at least one franchise.
"The IPL had given us the mandate to get permission from our foreign office, to obtain other clearances and to finalise visas," Butt said. "We did all this, but it is a surprise that none of them have been taken at the auction.
"We have been trying to get in touch with the concerned authorities but with no avail. I have asked the sports minister to speak to his counterpart in India about this."
The snub has drawn criticism in Pakistan and Butt said he was aggrieved by the manner in which the players were treated. "I agree this is a private event, but to be excluded without giving any reason and without looking at the background is unfair. If they had told us we would have told the boys not to apply at all."
Butt's comments were a stark contrast to his relatively unfazed stance on Tuesday soon after the auction. "It really does not bother us; what difference does it make to us if our players don't play in the IPL this season? They didn't play in the last season as well," he had said.
It is very good that our Cricketers and the Board got a slap on face.Money is a very bad thing.And Those who run behind money deserve this.What did they expected that enemy would welcome them with open hands.It is a very good lesson for all those who prefer money on National Pride.
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
[url="http://
Last edited by a moderator:
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
[url="http://
in case u forgotten these perfomances in ipl 1 season from pakistani players it will be good slap for your answer which u have given
in case u forgotten these perfomances in ipl 1 season from pakistani players it will be good slap for your answer which u have given
Last edited by a moderator:
Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
yes sir i agree with u good slap to our players such as shoaib malik, shoaib akhtar, who are always run for money cheap cricketers.
r0ck
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2009
- Messages
- 157
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
This is disgraceful, any Indian here trying to carve a reason out of this dispicable act is simply adding insult to injury. Face it, your government has not only specifically targeted Pakistanis but the humiliation in the bid clearly shows the arrogant, immature, totally unnecessary and the utter disrespect for the Pakistani people. There is no reason, none whatsoever, that not even a single player, a single player from the 2009 World Twenty20 champions doesn't get selected.
Try to come up with a coy reason, have a laugh, but fact of the matter is the IPL has not only shown any respect, but infact disgraced our nation's cricketers.
I urge all the concerned Pakistanis, to not watch only watch the IPL but also the Indian movies in the cinema, rather p!r@te them, from hell and back. Just like Leonidas in 300, "Give them nothing (in terms of revenues from cinemas), but take (download as in p!r@te) from them, everything!".
Any sensible Indian will agree that you can't one bit of disgrace, shame and disrespect from any country against the passion and love of your country's cricketers.
Try to come up with a coy reason, have a laugh, but fact of the matter is the IPL has not only shown any respect, but infact disgraced our nation's cricketers.
I urge all the concerned Pakistanis, to not watch only watch the IPL but also the Indian movies in the cinema, rather p!r@te them, from hell and back. Just like Leonidas in 300, "Give them nothing (in terms of revenues from cinemas), but take (download as in p!r@te) from them, everything!".
Any sensible Indian will agree that you can't one bit of disgrace, shame and disrespect from any country against the passion and love of your country's cricketers.
mr42O
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2009
- Messages
- 6,178
- Reaction score
- 4
- Country
- Location
Indian prime minister wanted peace and thats how India want to start.
I dont blame Indians its our fault. Most of teams are owned by bollywood star and 99% Pakistanies are watching India films ( every Indians film is copy of 3 hollywood films ) , watching indian drama ( crap dramas i realy dont understand why Pakistani watch that crap ) and listening to Indians songs whicg are very often stolen from som Pakistani group.
Stop watching there films dramas etc before talking about izzat etc.
Boycott all Indian bollywood ****. There are no Pakistani channels in India but why do we watch theres ?
I dont blame Indians its our fault. Most of teams are owned by bollywood star and 99% Pakistanies are watching India films ( every Indians film is copy of 3 hollywood films ) , watching indian drama ( crap dramas i realy dont understand why Pakistani watch that crap ) and listening to Indians songs whicg are very often stolen from som Pakistani group.
Stop watching there films dramas etc before talking about izzat etc.
Boycott all Indian bollywood ****. There are no Pakistani channels in India but why do we watch theres ?
stop getting so worked up about this. First of all realise the fact that another terror attack and Pak players will be refused visas. Franchises don't want to take such a risk with their money.
Secondly Pak players are good but many of them court controversy and de-stablise teams. Afridi made silly comments in the media after IPL-I against Laxman and gets into fights with his own players. Akhtar and Asif get involved in drug scandals. No franchise wants to risk money on such players.
Secondly Pak players are good but many of them court controversy and de-stablise teams. Afridi made silly comments in the media after IPL-I against Laxman and gets into fights with his own players. Akhtar and Asif get involved in drug scandals. No franchise wants to risk money on such players.
- Status
Similar threads
